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Post by AceKikr on Nov 21, 2008 9:15:45 GMT -4
Don Sweeny played 4 years in Harvard while earning his degree (might not be a doctor or a lawyer, but he has Harvard degree... Joe Juneau went to York while playing hockey got a aeronautical engineering degree (he did it in 3 years, cuz he's a brainiac..)...The point is, if you're a smart kid, NCAA via USHL is a good option because you can get scouted by Top US schools and earn degrees in schools you could never afford to go too... and if you're a good hockey player, you have the same chances of being scouted by an NHL team than you would in the CHL..
USHL is 12 team 16-20 year old league like CHL... Can you honestly say its much weaker than CHL, I doubt that..
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Post by Captain Obvious on Nov 21, 2008 9:38:41 GMT -4
Don Sweeny played 4 years in Harvard while earning his degree (might not be a doctor or a lawyer, but he has Harvard degree... Joe Juneau went to York while playing hockey got a aeronautical engineering degree (he did it in 3 years, cuz he's a brainiac..)...The point is, if you're a smart kid, NCAA via USHL is a good option because you can get scouted by Top US schools and earn degrees in schools you could never afford to go too... and if you're a good hockey player, you have the same chances of being scouted by an NHL team than you would in the CHL.. USHL is 12 team 16-20 year old league like CHL... Can you honestly say its much weaker than CHL, I doubt that.. Sweeney and Juneau are the exception, not the rule. |
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Post by jimmy on Nov 21, 2008 9:51:21 GMT -4
I think you have to consider it on a kid by kid basis ... if a player isn't a top notch student, I am not so sure NCAA route is the best option:
1) They lose somewhat in that at 16 and 17 (and maybe even 18) they are playing in a league of somewhat weaker calibre than the CHL
2) There is a risk that the NCAA scholarship disappears before they get to school for academic reasons
3) The institutions the player is likely to attend are probably no better academically (and in many cases worse) than the Canadian insitutions they could attend with their Q bursary money for a fraction of the cost
4) There is a decent chance that the player may not graduate in any event, opting for a career in the minor pros as college just wasn't for them.
On the other hand, if a player is a really good student, and is getting offers from prestigious schools like the Ivies, then I think the US route becomes a much better option, the only exception being a guy who wants to be in the NHL when he is 18 or 19, and they don't come along very often.
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Post by AceKikr on Nov 21, 2008 10:53:34 GMT -4
Sweeny and Juneau are exceptions.... yes maybe.... making the NHL is an exception... so what's your point?
My point was simply that the USHL gives you an opportunity to get into a top american school, that's all..
I'm just saying that no league is better than the other or gives you an advantage to make the NHL... It's your skills and play that determine that... I like the perks of the USHL to get into a american school...but if you're a player that has very good chances of getting drafted and school is not a concern, then stay in the CHL if that's what you would like..
It's a personal preference of where you want to play and or go to school, simple as that..
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Post by Captain Obvious on Nov 21, 2008 11:10:03 GMT -4
Sweeny and Juneau are exceptions.... yes maybe.... making the NHL is an exception... so what's your point? My point was simply that the USHL gives you an opportunity to get into a top american school, that's all.. I'm just saying that no league is better than the other or gives you an advantage to make the NHL... It's your skills and play that determine that... I like the perks of the USHL to get into a american school...but if you're a player that has very good chances of getting drafted and school is not a concern, then stay in the CHL if that's what you would like.. It's a personal preference of where you want to play and or go to school, simple as that.. My point is that for every kid who can play in the Q to stay in junior A in hopes of getting an Ivy Leagur scholarship is foolish. Just because school is a concern doesn't automatically make NCAA the best option. At 15 or 16 the Q is giving you a spot while NCAA you may have to wait 2 more years to see if they want you. The only kids that leave the Q with no education are the ones that don't want one. AUS schools are filled with former Q players who are getting some or all of their education paid. |
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Post by goon on Nov 21, 2008 15:16:57 GMT -4
What some people fail to realize is that NCAA rides are pretty sketchy for players as well. My friend's brother did not play in the Q in order to preserve his NCAA eligibility. Played his time out in Jr.A, and out of nowhere his NCAA ride vanished. So he never got to play a game of NCAA or CHL, and lost all the education money he could have received. You mean he did not try to play for a Q team. Was he even good enough to play in the Q. If his NCAA ride vanished, was it because of lack of skill? Not one NCAA team was willing to take a chance on him? What was the reason no team wanted him? If he was that good, some NCAA team would have expressed some interest. It wasn't no team wanted him, it's just his free ride vanished. Definitely good enough to play in the Q, currently plays in the CIS as a rookie. Still getting a good education and playing hockey. Turned out alright for him, I just put that out there for those that think that passing on the CHL to play in the NCAA is a much safer choice for non-superstar players. These players are just as much as a commodity to NCAA schools as they are to CHL teams. Personally, If I had a kid and he wasn't a sure-fire NHL'er, he'd be taking the NCAA route. |
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Post by joepuck on Nov 21, 2008 21:15:37 GMT -4
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Post by Captain Obvious on Nov 21, 2008 21:58:45 GMT -4
Bissonnette Cisse and LBD made the team...Bissonnette and LBD will get a few weeks to work over Cisse and get him here after Christmas. |
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Post by Captain Obvious on Nov 24, 2008 21:31:16 GMT -4
Downe. O'brien and Gormley made Team Atlantic for the U17. Will be tough to call up players...D'aoust Downe and O'brien would be candidates to replace Gormley Bissonnette during the U17.
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Post by hockey1981 on Nov 25, 2008 13:35:18 GMT -4
Bissonnette Cisse and LBD made the team...Bissonnette and LBD will get a few weeks to work over Cisse and get him here after Christmas. Good Luck with that..... Cisse commited to Boston University on a 4 Year Scholarship |
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Post by Captain Obvious on Nov 25, 2008 13:42:35 GMT -4
Bissonnette Cisse and LBD made the team...Bissonnette and LBD will get a few weeks to work over Cisse and get him here after Christmas. Good Luck with that..... Cisse commited to Boston University on a 4 Year Scholarship Doesn't mean a whole lot...Escott committed to Cornell then reported to PEI a month later. |
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