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Post by Shannon's burner account on Dec 17, 2017 23:05:17 GMT -4
With the Cats bidding for the Mem cup, Shannon probably has orders from Irving to have the best team possible for next year. Looks like they never planned to hold on to all the high picks they got in trades last year, but instead use them to bring in players. I would guess that they will also be moving Bathurst's 2019 1st at some point(next year's deadline?) to bring in a big star player I'm certainly not getting too attached to any draft picks at this point based on Shannons history. The nice thing is if they can add the pieces mostly with picks they could potentially have some nice assets leftover the following year to start the rebuild quick, or still have a strong team the following year with Khovanov/Pelletier/Bellamy possibly Cyr/Mckenna/Seitz or Capanelli as overagers. One thing that would be huge would be adding a top 4 defensenan through the euro draft, that can be a tough task though as most euro defenseman take a year to really have an impact. But SJ added Salda whos had a nice year 1, so it can be done. Or they could try for another impact FW which has higher probability. If they did that they could focus all of their assets on adding 2 top pairing defenseman without having to make any trades for forwards or in nets (except maybe a backup) Unless Khovanov get drafted in the 1st round of the nhl draft, they would need to release Lecoultre in order to make a selection, which is always risky. Of course, if they win the bid to host, that could help them land a high end euro but i'm not optimistic they will beat out Halifax |
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Post by lirette on Dec 17, 2017 23:25:09 GMT -4
I'm certainly not getting too attached to any draft picks at this point based on Shannons history. The nice thing is if they can add the pieces mostly with picks they could potentially have some nice assets leftover the following year to start the rebuild quick, or still have a strong team the following year with Khovanov/Pelletier/Bellamy possibly Cyr/Mckenna/Seitz or Capanelli as overagers. One thing that would be huge would be adding a top 4 defensenan through the euro draft, that can be a tough task though as most euro defenseman take a year to really have an impact. But SJ added Salda whos had a nice year 1, so it can be done. Or they could try for another impact FW which has higher probability. If they did that they could focus all of their assets on adding 2 top pairing defenseman without having to make any trades for forwards or in nets (except maybe a backup) Unless Khovanov get drafted in the 1st round of the nhl draft, they would need to release Lecoultre in order to make a selection, which is always risky. Of course, if they win the bid to host, that could help them land a high end euro but i'm not optimistic they will beat out Halifax I don't see Le Coultre in the picture next season. I'm sure they could find a spot for him somewhere in the league though for a pick. He's a great skater & plays hard but the hockey sense just isn't there to be a top 4 dman on a contender. |
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Post by ronmac on Dec 18, 2017 7:03:25 GMT -4
Unless Khovanov get drafted in the 1st round of the nhl draft, they would need to release Lecoultre in order to make a selection, which is always risky. Of course, if they win the bid to host, that could help them land a high end euro but i'm not optimistic they will beat out Halifax I don't see Le Coultre in the picture next season. I'm sure they could find a spot for him somewhere in the league though for a pick. He's a great skater & plays hard but the hockey sense just isn't there to be a top 4 dman on a contender. I see him as offensive defensemen and at 18 years old he still Has a lot of upsize to his game. My two cents |
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Post by mav on Dec 18, 2017 7:24:30 GMT -4
I don't see Le Coultre in the picture next season. I'm sure they could find a spot for him somewhere in the league though for a pick. He's a great skater & plays hard but the hockey sense just isn't there to be a top 4 dman on a contender. I see him as offensive defensemen and at 18 years old he still Has a lot of upsize to his game. My two cents When looking at defensemen for next yr, the one that keeps popping up to me...if available this summer...would be Salda from STJ. Depending on SJ's compete window he could be available and would be the perfect fit for the Cats' compete window. And i believe he would be an good upgrade over Lecoultre. |
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Post by Captain Obvious on Dec 18, 2017 8:50:35 GMT -4
With the Cats bidding for the Mem cup, Shannon probably has orders from Irving to have the best team possible for next year. Looks like they never planned to hold on to all the high picks they got in trades last year, but instead use them to bring in players. I would guess that they will also be moving Bathurst's 2019 1st at some point(next year's deadline?) to bring in a big star player I'm certainly not getting too attached to any draft picks at this point based on Shannons history. The nice thing is if they can add the pieces mostly with picks they could potentially have some nice assets leftover the following year to start the rebuild quick, or still have a strong team the following year with Khovanov/Pelletier/Bellamy possibly Cyr/Mckenna/Seitz or Capanelli as overagers. One thing that would be huge would be adding a top 4 defensenan through the euro draft, that can be a tough task though as most euro defenseman take a year to really have an impact. But SJ added Salda whos had a nice year 1, so it can be done. Or they could try for another impact FW which has higher probability. If they did that they could focus all of their assets on adding 2 top pairing defenseman without having to make any trades for forwards or in nets (except maybe a backup) Agree, it would not take a miracle to upgrade on leCoultre, especially with the Cats likely drafting top 12 or top 15 at worse. Get an 18 or 19 year old if need be and get a pick for LeCoultre. |
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Post by Captain Obvious on Dec 18, 2017 8:52:18 GMT -4
I don't see Le Coultre in the picture next season. I'm sure they could find a spot for him somewhere in the league though for a pick. He's a great skater & plays hard but the hockey sense just isn't there to be a top 4 dman on a contender. I see him as offensive defensemen and at 18 years old he still Has a lot of upsize to his game. My two cents I just don't see a lot of upside IMO. He is a guy that works hard and gives you an honest effort, but his skill level is average to slightly above average for a Q d-man. If you can pick up a guy who is 1st pair caliber in the Euro draft and get a pick back for LeCoultre, that's a win-win even if the other player is a 1 year guy. |
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Post by mav on Dec 18, 2017 9:29:46 GMT -4
Gabriel Sylvestre@gsylvestre3
J’aimerais remercier tous les partisans, l’organisation, ainsi que tous ceux qui travaillent au succès des joueurs pour ces 3 années et demie passées chez les Cataractes de Shawinigan. Cette expérience a été très enrichissante pour moi et j’en garde de chaleureux souvenirs.
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Post by Briwhel on Dec 18, 2017 9:31:04 GMT -4
I see him as offensive defensemen and at 18 years old he still Has a lot of upsize to his game. My two cents I just don't see a lot of upside IMO. He is a guy that works hard and gives you an honest effort, but his skill level is average to slightly above average for a Q d-man. If you can pick up a guy who is 1st pair caliber in the Euro draft and get a pick back for LeCoultre, that's a win-win even if the other player is a 1 year guy. I think trying to work out a trade for Salda at the draft might make sense for Moncton. |
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Post by mav on Dec 18, 2017 9:32:56 GMT -4
I just don't see a lot of upside IMO. He is a guy that works hard and gives you an honest effort, but his skill level is average to slightly above average for a Q d-man. If you can pick up a guy who is 1st pair caliber in the Euro draft and get a pick back for LeCoultre, that's a win-win even if the other player is a 1 year guy. I think trying to work out a trade for Salda at the draft might make sense for Moncton. My feeling here is that Salda is already in the Q and a known commodity. His integration will already have been done... Of course, there may be zero chance SJ would ever trade him... |
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Post by lirette on Dec 18, 2017 9:47:24 GMT -4
As much as I like Salda I'd prefer the cats the save assets as if things continue they should have a top 20 pick in the euro draft where they could grab an impact player for free. If they get a 1st + back for Welsh they could use those assets to add another dman at the draft so their D could look like this next season
Trade/Sylvestre
Euro draft pick/Aspirot
Bellamy/Tucker/Vanier
Bellamy is starting to see more icetime, him taking a big PO Joseph type jump next season so he could be used on the PP would be a huge bonus. I don't really see Arsenault in the picture either, they could probably add him into a trade for a dman but not sure there's a ton of value there.
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Post by CrazyJoeDavola on Dec 18, 2017 9:55:16 GMT -4
I think Shannon reads the boards, sees the buzz around rumours and what other teams are doing, and just can't help but dive in. Every time it seems like there is a clear path, he suddenly changes it because - boredom? Has he been spending his off season in Bathurst? Something in the water there?  Maybe it will work out, but he has a pretty lofty goal of icing a Memorial Cup winning roster next year, after finishing dead last last year. |
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Post by Captain Obvious on Dec 18, 2017 10:13:24 GMT -4
I just don't see a lot of upside IMO. He is a guy that works hard and gives you an honest effort, but his skill level is average to slightly above average for a Q d-man. If you can pick up a guy who is 1st pair caliber in the Euro draft and get a pick back for LeCoultre, that's a win-win even if the other player is a 1 year guy. I think trying to work out a trade for Salda at the draft might make sense for Moncton. They can probably get a guy as good or better early in the Euro draft and it wouldn't cost assets. |
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Post by Captain Obvious on Dec 18, 2017 10:17:47 GMT -4
As much as I like Salda I'd prefer the cats the save assets as if things continue they should have a top 20 pick in the euro draft where they could grab an impact player for free. If they get a 1st + back for Welsh they could use those assets to add another dman at the draft so their D could look like this next season Trade/Sylvestre Euro draft pick/Aspirot Bellamy/Tucker/Vanier Bellamy is starting to see more icetime, him taking a big PO Joseph type jump next season so he could be used on the PP would be a huge bonus. I don't really see Arsenault in the picture either, they could probably add him into a trade for a dman but not sure there's a ton of value there. They should have done the sane with Sylvestre, I know there are not a ton of 19 year olds...but at that price, you can likely get Gregoire at the draft(maybe for less) from Sherbrooke. Gregoire is twice the player Sylvestre is. Don't get me wrong, I like Sylvestre, but not anywhere near that price. He is a very good depth player, 2nd pair d-man who kills penalties, not a guy that will be a game changer. |
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Post by lirette on Dec 18, 2017 10:19:49 GMT -4
I think Shannon reads the boards, sees the buzz around rumours and what other teams are doing, and just can't help but dive in. Every time it seems like there is a clear path, he suddenly changes it because - boredom? Has he been spending his off season in Bathurst? Something in the water there? Maybe it will work out, but he has a pretty lofty goal of icing a Memorial Cup winning roster next year, after finishing dead last last year. Halifax won the memorial cup 2 years after finishing with 45 pts so I dont see how its that big of a deal. Not that I'm saying this Cats roster is anywhere near that moose roster but you can turn a roster around in 2 years with the right things falling into place. I don't see the moose roster being that far ahead of the Cats especially if Zadina doesnt come back. Cats have a very solid group of forwards that shouldnt need a whole lot added to it. The ceiling is high for this group with Khovanov/Pelletier/MacDonald and the 4 18 year old FW. If they focus all their assets on adding 2 top defenseman they will have a very good team.. Halifax is the favourite to get the bid but I don't see it being due to roster. |
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Post by CrazyJoeDavola on Dec 18, 2017 10:28:28 GMT -4
I think Shannon reads the boards, sees the buzz around rumours and what other teams are doing, and just can't help but dive in. Every time it seems like there is a clear path, he suddenly changes it because - boredom? Has he been spending his off season in Bathurst? Something in the water there? Maybe it will work out, but he has a pretty lofty goal of icing a Memorial Cup winning roster next year, after finishing dead last last year. Halifax won the memorial cup 2 years after finishing with 45 pts so I dont see how its that big of a deal. Not that I'm saying this Cats roster is anywhere near that moose roster but you can turn a roster around in 2 years with the right things falling into place. I don't see the moose roster being that far ahead of the Cats especially if Zadina doesnt come back. Cats have a very solid group of forwards that shouldnt need a whole lot added to it. The ceiling is high for this group with Khovanov/Pelletier/MacDonald and the 4 18 year old FW. If they focus all their assets on adding 2 top defenseman they will have a very good team.. Halifax is the favourite to get the bid but I don't see it being due to roster. Mooseheads were 4 lines deep, with the top line being MacKinnon/Drouin/Frk, which was virtually unstoppable. Big difference. You can spend all your assets on getting to "contender" status, but you won't have much left. Then the contenders will go and add those high end pieces. It will be a challenge to keep up IMO. |
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