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Post by jordo999 on Mar 6, 2018 1:48:15 GMT -4
David Noel and PO Joseph will probably be 2 of the best D available next year. Maybe Dobson but the price will be a truckload.
Pascal Corbeil will be one of the best 20 YO D options.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 6, 2018 2:46:32 GMT -4
I really hope Halifax gets the Mem Cup bid, because if the Cats do, then RKI and Shannon will destroy the future of this team for the next 6 years in a half ass attempt to build a winner. Or Moncyon could be a great host city and win a Memorial Cup....you have to be in the tournament to win the Cup. Seriously look at Halifaxes host year..they were half ass...but it was still a great event. |
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Post by wild1 on Mar 6, 2018 8:01:51 GMT -4
RKI is going to kill the future of this team if we win the Memorial cup bid, ever since Saint John and Halifax won the cup, he has been obsessed with getting a title for Moncton, but in the wrong way he thinks every year is a go for it year. On top of that he has Shannon as the GM who cannot make a good trade to save his life. Getting rid of Pelletier would be a colossal mistake and one that will come back to bite them in the ass time and time again. Trading what we did to get Sylvestre, that was just insane! What was the real purpose of that? If they really did want him they could have gotten him cheaper later on, maybe at the draft, but no way I give up our first + for him. Half ass run team if you ask me. I can see the new rink being pretty much empty after that first year of novelty wears off.
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Post by Captain Obvious on Mar 6, 2018 8:27:12 GMT -4
Hudson is one guy who has looked much better in the second half, I think he'll be a solid contributor next year. I find myself impressed with as a smaller guy he can really lay some big hits on much bigger guys. Does a little bit of everything and works hard. Other than that agree with the frustrations in your post. We might have lucked out a little getting 3rd in the lottery inside of 2nd as Pelletier is an amazing player..Poulin may be the more "pro prospect" in the longer run. Remains to be seen. I think if Waite has a different last name he probably gets released mid-season ... hoping the family magic rubs off probably bought him more time. Someone in Cats management seems a bit star struck with relatives of former NHLers ... we tend to overdraft on them, and hang on to them longer than we should ... ~cough~Corson~cough~ |
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Post by Captain Obvious on Mar 6, 2018 8:31:34 GMT -4
Name one player you would like on next year's roster. Regardless of cost. Dobson-but with Shannon doing the negotiating it would probably cost Pelletier as futures plus 12 1st round picks. |
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Post by Captain Obvious on Mar 6, 2018 8:36:02 GMT -4
The most disappointing part(s) of this season... 1-being 4th or 5th from the bottom and not having their 1st rounder. Really frustrating that they lost the lottery last year and they messed up a chance to maybe win it this year. 2-being that low in the standings and having NOT developed much in terms of 16 and 17 year olds. Other than guys like Pelletier and Khovanov who were ready to contribute from day 1, who has grown by leaps and bounds since opening night? I can't think of one...Bellamy should be one, maybe Jacques also...but nope...went from 5 picks in the top 2 rounds and ended up with ONE player in the lineup...frustrating. 3-not developing a goalie behind Gametbauer. Waite is probably the worst goalie in the Q this year, why keep him as a back up instead of giving MacDonald(17) or Gaudreau(17) a chance and some experience. 4-getting worst as the season goes on...2-8-0 the last 10 despite a veteran team...in goal Grametbauer(19) plays in almost every game, on defense Welsh(20) Miromanov(20) Lecoultre(18-Euro) Sylvestre(19) and Aspirot(18) polay big minutes yet they give up a ton of shots and goals. Hudson is one guy who has looked much better in the second half, I think he'll be a solid contributor next year. I find myself impressed with as a smaller guy he can really lay some big hits on much bigger guys. Does a little bit of everything and works hard. Other than that agree with the frustrations in your post. We might have lucked out a little getting 3rd in the lottery inside of 2nd as Pelletier is an amazing player..Poulin may be the more "pro prospect" in the longer run. Remains to be seen. I don't have a problem with this, but it's still not normal for a team that sucked as bad as the cats did last year to only come out of the draft with one player(so far) that is on your roster and developing. Hudson is likely a 3rd liner on a good team, nothing wrong with that but he won't be a core player. Just frustrating to see such poor asset management after starting out with 6 or 7 picks in the top 3 rounds, now only Pelletier plus possibly Stewart as a role player. You have to come out of that draft with 3 core players going forward. |
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Post by Captain Obvious on Mar 6, 2018 8:38:54 GMT -4
Agree on Dobson, but I don't think he's one of the possibilities. Apparently the Cats have 5 deals on the table with other teams contingent on the Cats getting the Memorial Cup bid(really can't see that happening, but who knows). If they win the bid, then the trades will be announced at the next trading period. I'm terrified that Pelletier will be gone as a future in one of these deals. I don't see what else the Cats have to offer. I am so looking forward to seeing Pelletier as a 19 year old in this league, but I will be very disappointed if it's with another team. It's unreal that he is doing what he's doing at just 16. He's going to be a beast. They have 3 first rounders, the Bathurst 2019 1st and their own in 2020 being very attractive, I think for the long term health of the franchise, getting the Memorial cup in 2019 with Shannon as GM might be the worst case scenario. I'm sure he can make enough deals to make them competitive but not win, then the damage will be felt for 4-5 years. |
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Post by Captain Obvious on Mar 6, 2018 8:41:55 GMT -4
RKI is going to kill the future of this team if we win the Memorial cup bid, ever since Saint John and Halifax won the cup, he has been obsessed with getting a title for Moncton, but in the wrong way he thinks every year is a go for it year. On top of that he has Shannon as the GM who cannot make a good trade to save his life. Getting rid of Pelletier would be a colossal mistake and one that will come back to bite them in the ass time and time again. Trading what we did to get Sylvestre, that was just insane! What was the real purpose of that? If they really did want him they could have gotten him cheaper later on, maybe at the draft, but no way I give up our first + for him. Half ass run team if you ask me. I can see the new rink being pretty much empty after that first year of novelty wears off. That's my pet peeve on Sylvestre, what is the big rush to fill an OA spot with a guy that is solid but not dominant in a season where you are among the worst in the league? Plus the 1st round pick that was Quebec's is moving up as Quebec has slipped from top 3 to mid back, would now be 11th, may end up 10th. |
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Post by jimmy on Mar 6, 2018 9:26:40 GMT -4
Agree on Dobson, but I don't think he's one of the possibilities. Apparently the Cats have 5 deals on the table with other teams contingent on the Cats getting the Memorial Cup bid(really can't see that happening, but who knows). If they win the bid, then the trades will be announced at the next trading period. I'm terrified that Pelletier will be gone as a future in one of these deals. I don't see what else the Cats have to offer. I am so looking forward to seeing Pelletier as a 19 year old in this league, but I will be very disappointed if it's with another team. It's unreal that he is doing what he's doing at just 16. He's going to be a beast. They have 3 first rounders, the Bathurst 2019 1st and their own in 2020 being very attractive, I think for the long term health of the franchise, getting the Memorial cup in 2019 with Shannon as GM might be the worst case scenario. I'm sure he can make enough deals to make them competitive but not win, then the damage will be felt for 4-5 years. From the base we start with this offseason, I think pretty much any idiot could add enough talent to make a competitive host team. The problem would be at what cost? Shannon has a track record of overpaying on his deals - have to expect he would leave the cupboards pretty bare when he was done. Personally, with the move downtown, I think the franchise is better served with being competitive for the next three or four seasons, even if we fall short of being a championship team, than throwing all of our eggs in one basket for 2018/19 followed by 2 or 3 years as a doormat. |
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Post by jimmy on Mar 6, 2018 9:28:59 GMT -4
RKI is going to kill the future of this team if we win the Memorial cup bid, ever since Saint John and Halifax won the cup, he has been obsessed with getting a title for Moncton, but in the wrong way he thinks every year is a go for it year. On top of that he has Shannon as the GM who cannot make a good trade to save his life. Getting rid of Pelletier would be a colossal mistake and one that will come back to bite them in the ass time and time again. Trading what we did to get Sylvestre, that was just insane! What was the real purpose of that? If they really did want him they could have gotten him cheaper later on, maybe at the draft, but no way I give up our first + for him. Half ass run team if you ask me. I can see the new rink being pretty much empty after that first year of novelty wears off. That's my pet peeve on Sylvestre, what is the big rush to fill an OA spot with a guy that is solid but not dominant in a season where you are among the worst in the league? Plus the 1st round pick that was Quebec's is moving up as Quebec has slipped from top 3 to mid back, would now be 11th, may end up 10th. Agree on this one ... terrible asset management to pay what he did for Sylvestre when he did ... I am sure there would be a stay at home d-man available as an OA some time between the draft and next trade deadline for a 2nd or 3rd round pick alone - heck, watch us end up moving Sylvestre for that next Xmas so that we can add another impact OA for the second half. |
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Post by jimmy on Mar 6, 2018 9:30:11 GMT -4
Slight change to my previous post. Name one forward and one defenseman you would like on next year's roster. Regardless of cost. My answer ... not players ... but two big additions ... Ted Nolan and Danny Flynn. Make it happen RKI! |
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Post by lirette on Mar 6, 2018 9:43:06 GMT -4
Slight change to my previous post. Name one forward and one defenseman you would like on next year's roster. Regardless of cost. My answer ... not players ... but two big additions ... Ted Nolan and Danny Flynn. Make it happen RKI! I think its time to give up and move on from this Flynn & Nolan stuff. However bringing in 2 high quality replacements would go a long way to instill some confidence in the fanbase. I love that Rumble allows players to be creative and encourages hard work & physical play but at this point the team is playing worse than they were in September/October with a much better roster & I'm continually seeing defenseman making the same mistakes every game, some of the defenseman are borderline regressing. |
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Post by Captain Obvious on Mar 6, 2018 9:45:35 GMT -4
My answer ... not players ... but two big additions ... Ted Nolan and Danny Flynn. Make it happen RKI! I think its time to give up and move on from this Flynn & Nolan stuff. However bringing in 2 high quality replacements would go a long way to instill some confidence in the fanbase. I love that Rumble allows players to be creative and encourages hard work & physical play but at this point the team is playing worse than they were in September/October with a much better roster & I'm continually seeing defenseman making the same mistakes every game, some of the defenseman are borderline regressing. That's my big issue with Rumble...He has a 19 year old goalie...two 20 year olds...a 19 year old(that they overpaid for!) plus 2 18 year olds on defense and their goals against is not getting any better. You can say they are limited in talent but at some point the coach is responsible for his team's defensive play. Start benching guys when they take shortcuts if needed. |
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Post by jimmy on Mar 6, 2018 10:06:11 GMT -4
My answer ... not players ... but two big additions ... Ted Nolan and Danny Flynn. Make it happen RKI! I think its time to give up and move on from this Flynn & Nolan stuff. However bringing in 2 high quality replacements would go a long way to instill some confidence in the fanbase. I love that Rumble allows players to be creative and encourages hard work & physical play but at this point the team is playing worse than they were in September/October with a much better roster & I'm continually seeing defenseman making the same mistakes every game, some of the defenseman are borderline regressing. I can see your point on Nolan and Flynn ... but agree wholeheartedly with you on a high quality coach and GM being needed ... if not them, someone comparable. |
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Post by jimmy on Mar 6, 2018 10:07:42 GMT -4
I think its time to give up and move on from this Flynn & Nolan stuff. However bringing in 2 high quality replacements would go a long way to instill some confidence in the fanbase. I love that Rumble allows players to be creative and encourages hard work & physical play but at this point the team is playing worse than they were in September/October with a much better roster & I'm continually seeing defenseman making the same mistakes every game, some of the defenseman are borderline regressing. That's my big issue with Rumble...He has a 19 year old goalie...two 20 year olds...a 19 year old(that they overpaid for!) plus 2 18 year olds on defense and their goals against is not getting any better. You can say they are limited in talent but at some point the coach is responsible for his team's defensive play. Start benching guys when they take shortcuts if needed. Agreed - with the parts we have, if we are that bad defensively, IMO it falls on the coach. He is either not showing the players the right things to do, or if he is, he is not holding them accountable for mistakes. |
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