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Post by Captain Obvious on Jan 9, 2018 15:00:07 GMT -4
Here is how the Cats are looking next year before chances, 19 potential returnees:
Forwards(12):
Pelletier(17)-Khovanov(18)-McKenna(19)
Cyr(19)-MacDonald(18)-Campannelli(19)
Seitz(19)-Hudson(18)-Pataki(20)
Kuzmin(19)-Blackmore(19)-Lazure(19)
Foreman(17)-Fox(18)-Stewart(17)
Rumsey(17)-Mason(18)
Defense(5):
Sylvestre(20)-Lecoultre(19)
Aspirot(19)-Tucker(18)
Arsenault(19)-Vanier(17)
Nicholson(17)
Goalies(2):
Grametbauer(20)
Waite(19)
Gaudreault(18)
MacDonald(18)
Paradis(17)
I wonder how hosting vs not hosting will impact the moves.
Players that could be added pretty easily...
-3 picks in the top 2 rounds of the 2018 draft
-Euro pick that will likely be top 15-20
-adding an overager to upgrade Pataki
Certain players risk being replaced by younger or more high end players:
Lecoultre(younger/higher impact Euro)
Waire(younger goalie?)
Arsenault
Kuzmin
Lazure
Pataki(more high end OA)
Blackmore
Tucker
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Post by Arnold Slick on Jan 10, 2018 20:20:07 GMT -4
Right now this looks like a pretty good, but not great team.
Forward group looks strong if everyone progresses. Ideally in that scenario you wouldn't have to make too many additions to strengthen that area of the team should they decide to go for it.
Goaltending is fine with the only real question mark being who will be the back up.
The defence looks...bad. We can safely assume they'll be adding a 20 year old who is a top four defenceman and they'll need to add more than that if they want to contend. They would have to be looking at bringing in a stud dman in the Dobson mold and also an Alex Wall type acquisition as well.
Best case scenario for the Euro situation is that Khovanov is picked in the 1st round and then they can draft another import without having to release anyone. Then you can assess if what you picked is better than what you already have.
As for how hosting vs not hosting will impact the moves...I have a hunch it's not going to matter. I'm betting Irving will be ordering the go all in either way.
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Post by mav on Jan 11, 2018 8:15:03 GMT -4
AVAILABLE D FOR NEXT YR??
I was just going over that stats leaders on D and wondering who we can get this summer?
Here is the list and interestingly enough we have just pulled off trades with many of these teams so i wonder if there are any placeholder picks going back....
in order from the stats leaders.
Thomas Gregoire SHE, 20yrs old(next yr)
Noah Dobson, BAT
David Noel, VD
Pascal Corbeil, BLB
PO Joseph, CHA
William Cyr, ROU
Im not saying any of these guys are available or rumored to be, only that these guys would obviously all fit our need for scoring Dmen next yr...there may be others of course
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Post by Captain Obvious on Jan 11, 2018 8:32:31 GMT -4
Right now this looks like a pretty good, but not great team. Forward group looks strong if everyone progresses. Ideally in that scenario you wouldn't have to make too many additions to strengthen that area of the team should they decide to go for it. Goaltending is fine with the only real question mark being who will be the back up. The defence looks...bad. We can safely assume they'll be adding a 20 year old who is a top four defenceman and they'll need to add more than that if they want to contend. They would have to be looking at bringing in a stud dman in the Dobson mold and also an Alex Wall type acquisition as well. Best case scenario for the Euro situation is that Khovanov is picked in the 1st round and then they can draft another import without having to release anyone. Then you can assess if what you picked is better than what you already have. As for how hosting vs not hosting will impact the moves...I have a hunch it's not going to matter. I'm betting Irving will be ordering the go all in either way. In an ideal world, you get an OA d-man plus a Euro d-man who can play top 4, plus if they are hosting I'm sure it will help attract a couple of higher end FA's for depth. If you manage your assets well(big big assumption based on who we have as GM) you can easily be a top 4-5 team with the current roster plus those two relatively cheap additions. I don't see Lecoultre back unless Khovanov goes in the 1st round, but even at that it may better to move him, odds are slim that Khovanov goes high enough and improves that much that he is in the NHL at 18. |
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Post by lirette on Jan 11, 2018 8:50:31 GMT -4
AVAILABLE D FOR NEXT YR?? I was just going over that stats leaders on D and wondering who we can get this summer? Here is the list and interestingly enough we have just pulled off trades with many of these teams so i wonder if there are any placeholder picks going back.... in order from the stats leaders. Thomas Gregoire SHE, 20yrs old(next yr) Noah Dobson, BAT David Noel, VD Pascal Corbeil, BLB PO Joseph, CHA William Cyr, ROU Im not saying any of these guys are available or rumored to be, only that these guys would obviously all fit our need for scoring Dmen next yr...there may be others of course Luke Green would be another possibility if he's not AHL. Sherbrooke may sell next season to build around their strong core of rookies. I believe they somewhat stood pat this year because they feel they have a team that can compete and have next to no success as a franchise. |
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Post by Captain Obvious on Jan 11, 2018 9:16:03 GMT -4
AVAILABLE D FOR NEXT YR?? I was just going over that stats leaders on D and wondering who we can get this summer? Here is the list and interestingly enough we have just pulled off trades with many of these teams so i wonder if there are any placeholder picks going back.... in order from the stats leaders. Thomas Gregoire SHE, 20yrs old(next yr) Noah Dobson, BAT David Noel, VD Pascal Corbeil, BLB PO Joseph, CHA William Cyr, ROU Im not saying any of these guys are available or rumored to be, only that these guys would obviously all fit our need for scoring Dmen next yr...there may be others of course Luke Green would be another possibility if he's not AHL. Sherbrooke may sell next season to build around their strong core of rookies. I believe they somewhat stood pat this year because they feel they have a team that can compete and have next to no success as a franchise. If Sherbrooke sells, I would take Gregoire ahead of Green. |
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Post by Cats75 on Feb 4, 2018 13:50:53 GMT -4
What do you guys think about trading Cyr? Just seems so injury prone that I don’t know if we can count on him to stay healthy in the future. Great asset who could get a fair return.
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Post by joehockey on Feb 4, 2018 14:55:12 GMT -4
What do you guys think about trading Cyr? Just seems so injury prone that I don’t know if we can count on him to stay healthy in the future. Great asset who could get a fair return. If the plan is to go for it next year I think there is a 0% chance they trade him. They already have to add one top 6 forward for next year, it would make things extremely difficult to have to add two. Plus they have to add 2 or 3 top 4 defencemen anyway. |
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Post by WildcatMapleLeafs on Feb 4, 2018 18:14:32 GMT -4
AVAILABLE D FOR NEXT YR?? I was just going over that stats leaders on D and wondering who we can get this summer? Here is the list and interestingly enough we have just pulled off trades with many of these teams so i wonder if there are any placeholder picks going back.... in order from the stats leaders. Thomas Gregoire SHE, 20yrs old(next yr) Noah Dobson, BAT David Noel, VD Pascal Corbeil, BLB PO Joseph, CHA William Cyr, ROU Im not saying any of these guys are available or rumored to be, only that these guys would obviously all fit our need for scoring Dmen next yr...there may be others of course D'astous from Rimouski would be another dman to target. Very underrated. |
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Post by MLeBlancA on Feb 4, 2018 22:52:36 GMT -4
i will be surprise if Khovanov goes in the 1st round, and if they trade Le Coultre.
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Post by Captain Obvious on Feb 5, 2018 8:08:43 GMT -4
What do you guys think about trading Cyr? Just seems so injury prone that I don’t know if we can count on him to stay healthy in the future. Great asset who could get a fair return. It only makes sense if you get a better player back. maybe the best thing for Cyr is to play him on the 2nd line and limit his play vs top D pairs... |
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Post by Captain Obvious on Feb 5, 2018 8:11:03 GMT -4
i will be surprise if Khovanov goes in the 1st round, and if they trade Le Coultre. I think it's a foregone conclusion that LeCoultre will be traded and a new Euro will be drafted early. In terms of Khovanov going 1st round...not based on his play so far. He is looking better lately, but still not 1st round caliber, plus being Russian will hurt him in the draft. |
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Post by jimmy on Feb 5, 2018 10:13:43 GMT -4
I wouldn't be looking to move Cyr ... it is not inconceivable that he has another big jump in him yet, as many players do from 18 to 19 (or from 19 to 20). He had a hot start, 24 points in 17 games through the end of October, then he seemed to hit a wall in November and December, but is back producing at a PPG pace in January and February. 95 point pace for the first quarter of the season - perhaps next year he can sustain it all season. With an added summer of growth and strength, he may be a bit better prepared to withstand injuries as well.
I really like what we have up front for next year - Pelletier, McKenna, Cyr, MacDonald and Khovanov are all solid top six options. Need one more top six forward to emerge from the group of Seitz, Capannelli, Hudson, Blackmore, Kuzmin, or via the FA route - if not, then a trade might be required, but right now, it doesn't seem like we are missing too much up front to contend. Defense, on the other hand ... that is going to require some heavy lifting. Sylvestre is a good shut down guy, Aspirot is likely a decent 2nd pair option, and then you have Tucker and Arseault who are likely third pair guys at most. Need an entire top pair IMO.
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Post by lirette on Feb 5, 2018 10:56:16 GMT -4
I wouldn't be looking to move Cyr ... it is not inconceivable that he has another big jump in him yet, as many players do from 18 to 19 (or from 19 to 20). He had a hot start, 24 points in 17 games through the end of October, then he seemed to hit a wall in November and December, but is back producing at a PPG pace in January and February. 95 point pace for the first quarter of the season - perhaps next year he can sustain it all season. With an added summer of growth and strength, he may be a bit better prepared to withstand injuries as well. I really like what we have up front for next year - Pelletier, McKenna, Cyr, MacDonald and Khovanov are all solid top six options. Need one more top six forward to emerge from the group of Seitz, Capannelli, Hudson, Blackmore, Kuzmin, or via the FA route - if not, then a trade might be required, but right now, it doesn't seem like we are missing too much up front to contend. Defense, on the other hand ... that is going to require some heavy lifting. Sylvestre is a good shut down guy, Aspirot is likely a decent 2nd pair option, and then you have Tucker and Arseault who are likely third pair guys at most. Need an entire top pair IMO. If they don't see an impact D available when their import pick comes around they should be able to add another top 6 FW through the import draft. Historically euro D's are not impact players right away although there is some cases..Salda for example. But I'd go with the lesser gamble of going for a forward and try & add 2 dmen at the draft. It seems likely they'll add a 20, then trade for another top pairing 19. You don't want to start the first half of the season with the current D they have as it could hurt them in the standings and prices will be higher at the deadline. |
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Post by Citris on Feb 5, 2018 12:05:15 GMT -4
D'astous from Rimouski would be another dman to target. Very underrated. Rimouski will be going all-in next year, I can guarentee that. Lafreniere will probably not play in the Q at 18, they know this, so there's no reason for them to sell. |
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