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Post by catnut on Feb 5, 2018 12:14:50 GMT -4
D'astous from Rimouski would be another dman to target. Very underrated. Rimouski will be going all-in next year, I can guarentee that. Lafreniere will probably not play in the Q at 18, they know this, so there's no reason for them to sell. Lafrenière is a late bday. He will be in the league for 3 years. |
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Post by Citris on Feb 5, 2018 12:28:00 GMT -4
Rimouski will be going all-in next year, I can guarentee that. Lafreniere will probably not play in the Q at 18, they know this, so there's no reason for them to sell. Lafrenière is a late bday. He will be in the league for 3 years. Huh, you're right, I somehow missed that. Well that's slightly terrifying then. |
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Post by Captain Obvious on Feb 5, 2018 16:58:36 GMT -4
I wouldn't be looking to move Cyr ... it is not inconceivable that he has another big jump in him yet, as many players do from 18 to 19 (or from 19 to 20). He had a hot start, 24 points in 17 games through the end of October, then he seemed to hit a wall in November and December, but is back producing at a PPG pace in January and February. 95 point pace for the first quarter of the season - perhaps next year he can sustain it all season. With an added summer of growth and strength, he may be a bit better prepared to withstand injuries as well. I really like what we have up front for next year - Pelletier, McKenna, Cyr, MacDonald and Khovanov are all solid top six options. Need one more top six forward to emerge from the group of Seitz, Capannelli, Hudson, Blackmore, Kuzmin, or via the FA route - if not, then a trade might be required, but right now, it doesn't seem like we are missing too much up front to contend. Defense, on the other hand ... that is going to require some heavy lifting. Sylvestre is a good shut down guy, Aspirot is likely a decent 2nd pair option, and then you have Tucker and Arseault who are likely third pair guys at most. Need an entire top pair IMO. That's why they likely need to use their high Euro pick on a drafted Euro d-man(18 or 19) who can contribute right away and potentially be 1st pair...assuming they are hosting... |
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Post by jimmy on Feb 5, 2018 17:08:16 GMT -4
I wouldn't be looking to move Cyr ... it is not inconceivable that he has another big jump in him yet, as many players do from 18 to 19 (or from 19 to 20). He had a hot start, 24 points in 17 games through the end of October, then he seemed to hit a wall in November and December, but is back producing at a PPG pace in January and February. 95 point pace for the first quarter of the season - perhaps next year he can sustain it all season. With an added summer of growth and strength, he may be a bit better prepared to withstand injuries as well. I really like what we have up front for next year - Pelletier, McKenna, Cyr, MacDonald and Khovanov are all solid top six options. Need one more top six forward to emerge from the group of Seitz, Capannelli, Hudson, Blackmore, Kuzmin, or via the FA route - if not, then a trade might be required, but right now, it doesn't seem like we are missing too much up front to contend. Defense, on the other hand ... that is going to require some heavy lifting. Sylvestre is a good shut down guy, Aspirot is likely a decent 2nd pair option, and then you have Tucker and Arseault who are likely third pair guys at most. Need an entire top pair IMO. That's why they likely need to use their high Euro pick on a drafted Euro d-man(18 or 19) who can contribute right away and potentially be 1st pair...assuming they are hosting... Knowing the Cats, they will try and draft Rasmus Dahlin or Adam Boqvist amidst some delusional belief that they can convince them to report ...  |
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Post by lirette on Feb 5, 2018 17:24:36 GMT -4
That's why they likely need to use their high Euro pick on a drafted Euro d-man(18 or 19) who can contribute right away and potentially be 1st pair...assuming they are hosting... Knowing the Cats, they will try and draft Rasmus Dahlin or Adam Boqvist amidst some delusional belief that they can convince them to report ... I would say getting Khovanov here proves they can get quality euros. Maybe not to the level of Halifax but still high quality. I'm honestly not worried about the Euro draft. Khovanov not reporting initially was clearly out of their control and him being here now proves he always wanted to be here. I don't have doubts they can put a top notch squad together for next season, as the holes that need to be filled are glaringly obvious. I do have doubts in Shannons ability to do it with smart & efficient trading & without paying a completely ridiculous price in a season that will already have inflated prices. |
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Post by ronmac on Feb 5, 2018 18:21:56 GMT -4
Knowing the Cats, they will try and draft Rasmus Dahlin or Adam Boqvist amidst some delusional belief that they can convince them to report ... I would say getting Khovanov here proves they can get quality euros. Maybe not to the level of Halifax but still high quality. I'm honestly not worried about the Euro draft. Khovanov not reporting initially was clearly out of their control and him being here now proves he always wanted to be here. I don't have doubts they can put a top notch squad together for next season, as the holes that need to be filled are glaringly obvious. I do have doubts in Shannons ability to do it with smart & efficient trading & without paying a completely ridiculous price in a season that will already have inflated prices. Where have you been for the last 3 years? |
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Post by WhiteTyAffair on Feb 5, 2018 19:15:29 GMT -4
That's why they likely need to use their high Euro pick on a drafted Euro d-man(18 or 19) who can contribute right away and potentially be 1st pair...assuming they are hosting... Knowing the Cats, they will try and draft Rasmus Dahlin or Adam Boqvist amidst some delusional belief that they can convince them to report ... I know you're joking, but we won't be able to draft a Euro unless LeCoultre is released or traded. Let's say that happens. I'll throw out a few names. All Russians; 2 defensemen and 1 forward. Danila Galenyuk - D Artemi Knyazev - D Matvei Guskov - F |
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Post by MLeBlancA on Feb 5, 2018 19:19:08 GMT -4
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Post by jimmy on Feb 13, 2018 11:13:28 GMT -4
I see Bellamy seems to be playing a bigger role since he was traded to Sherbrooke - 16 GP, 2 G, 4 A, 6 PTS, -1 ...
We got a 1st and 2nd back ...
Coincidentally, we traded a 1st and 2nd for Sylvestre ... 18 GP, 2 G, 1 A, 3 PTS, -8 - and two suspensions.
Obviously can't compare defensemen just by stats, and I am sure Sylvestre has played "harder" minutes than Bellamy ... that said, which one do you think is more likely to take a big step forward in 2018/19?
I think these two moves will soon rank among Shannon's "finest" ...
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Post by Captain Obvious on Feb 13, 2018 11:19:01 GMT -4
I see Bellamy seems to be playing a bigger role since he was traded to Sherbrooke - 16 GP, 2 G, 4 A, 6 PTS, -1 ... We got a 1st and 2nd back ... Coincidentally, we traded a 1st and 2nd for Sylvestre ... 18 GP, 2 G, 1 A, 3 PTS, -8 - and two suspensions. Obviously can't compare defensemen just by stats, and I am sure Sylvestre has played "harder" minutes than Bellamy ... that said, which one do you think is more likely to take a big step forward in 2018/19? I think these two moves will soon rank among Shannon's "finest" ... The frustrating part is the logic behind it. Bellamy should have never suffered behind guys that are currently in Jr.A or Arsenault with VERY limited upside. That's not to say he should have played 1st pair, but they should have had him playing a regular shift most games this year, maybe sit out 8-10(including time at the U17). Playing him the "right" minutes and in the right situations should have been a priority given the complete lack of any long term options on D. The other short sighted thing is assuming they will be hosting and that prices won't be lower for a guy like Sylvestre at 20 vs at 19. If you DON'T host them let somebody else play inflated prices and build for 19-20 while still having a good team for the new rink... |
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Post by CrazyJoeDavola on Feb 13, 2018 11:28:51 GMT -4
I see Bellamy seems to be playing a bigger role since he was traded to Sherbrooke - 16 GP, 2 G, 4 A, 6 PTS, -1 ... We got a 1st and 2nd back ... Coincidentally, we traded a 1st and 2nd for Sylvestre ... 18 GP, 2 G, 1 A, 3 PTS, -8 - and two suspensions. Obviously can't compare defensemen just by stats, and I am sure Sylvestre has played "harder" minutes than Bellamy ... that said, which one do you think is more likely to take a big step forward in 2018/19? I think these two moves will soon rank among Shannon's "finest" ... The frustrating part is the logic behind it. Bellamy should have never suffered behind guys that are currently in Jr.A or Arsenault with VERY limited upside. That's not to say he should have played 1st pair, but they should have had him playing a regular shift most games this year, maybe sit out 8-10(including time at the U17). Playing him the "right" minutes and in the right situations should have been a priority given the complete lack of any long term options on D. The other short sighted thing is assuming they will be hosting and that prices won't be lower for a guy like Sylvestre at 20 vs at 19. If you DON'T host them let somebody else play inflated prices and build for 19-20 while still having a good team for the new rink... I know fans in Halifax threw Sylvestre's name around as the type of guy we'd need - not sure if Management kicked some tires. I wonder if it wasn't pre-emptive strike by Shannon. You make the team stronger in anticipation of hosting, but if you don't get the tournament - you know Halifax will be one team you could extract some talent from at the draft/Xmas for him. |
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Post by jimmy on Feb 13, 2018 12:01:13 GMT -4
The frustrating part is the logic behind it. Bellamy should have never suffered behind guys that are currently in Jr.A or Arsenault with VERY limited upside. That's not to say he should have played 1st pair, but they should have had him playing a regular shift most games this year, maybe sit out 8-10(including time at the U17). Playing him the "right" minutes and in the right situations should have been a priority given the complete lack of any long term options on D. The other short sighted thing is assuming they will be hosting and that prices won't be lower for a guy like Sylvestre at 20 vs at 19. If you DON'T host them let somebody else play inflated prices and build for 19-20 while still having a good team for the new rink... I know fans in Halifax threw Sylvestre's name around as the type of guy we'd need - not sure if Management kicked some tires. I wonder if it wasn't pre-emptive strike by Shannon. You make the team stronger in anticipation of hosting, but if you don't get the tournament - you know Halifax will be one team you could extract some talent from at the draft/Xmas for him. The price paid for Sylvestre only makes sense if he is a top pair guy as an OA ... so far, he has not shown the offense to support that role - so if you are going to be a top pair guy without bringing much offense, you had better be one of the best shut down guys in the league, otherwise he becomes a steady 3-4 OA d-man that we a) overpaid for and b) contenders look to upgrade upon in search of more impact from their OA spots ... |
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Post by Captain Obvious on Feb 13, 2018 12:18:07 GMT -4
I know fans in Halifax threw Sylvestre's name around as the type of guy we'd need - not sure if Management kicked some tires. I wonder if it wasn't pre-emptive strike by Shannon. You make the team stronger in anticipation of hosting, but if you don't get the tournament - you know Halifax will be one team you could extract some talent from at the draft/Xmas for him. The price paid for Sylvestre only makes sense if he is a top pair guy as an OA ... so far, he has not shown the offense to support that role - so if you are going to be a top pair guy without bringing much offense, you had better be one of the best shut down guys in the league, otherwise he becomes a steady 3-4 OA d-man that we a) overpaid for and b) contenders look to upgrade upon in search of more impact from their OA spots ... Yup, no way he is a top pair guy based on what I have seen so far. #3-4 at best unless he improves dramatically this summer. |
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Post by CrazyJoeDavola on Feb 13, 2018 13:13:37 GMT -4
I know fans in Halifax threw Sylvestre's name around as the type of guy we'd need - not sure if Management kicked some tires. I wonder if it wasn't pre-emptive strike by Shannon. You make the team stronger in anticipation of hosting, but if you don't get the tournament - you know Halifax will be one team you could extract some talent from at the draft/Xmas for him. The price paid for Sylvestre only makes sense if he is a top pair guy as an OA ... so far, he has not shown the offense to support that role - so if you are going to be a top pair guy without bringing much offense, you had better be one of the best shut down guys in the league, otherwise he becomes a steady 3-4 OA d-man that we a) overpaid for and b) contenders look to upgrade upon in search of more impact from their OA spots ... For some reason I thought he was going to 19 next year. Yeah as a 20, his cost drops significantly. |
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Post by waterboy on Feb 13, 2018 21:55:48 GMT -4
Mama says two teams are going for it and you can always sell him for what we paid for him. There isn't many stud 19 or 20 year old defensemen. We knew that when we acquired him. Right now if it isn't panning out for MemCup, we have many high end assets to trade. Good problem to have mama says.
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