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Post by Captain Obvious on Apr 8, 2018 21:27:23 GMT -4
I wouldn't pick on Aspirot or Seitz. Those two plus Campinelli seem to be the only ones having an effect. Phelan is struggling to find space but many of them play like they accept their fate. I like players that show up, it shows character. I wouldn't criticize passion and heart just because sometimes it comes out wrong. They will be fine. Not sure I would equate dumb penalties with caring...the game was still within reach...unlikely, but stranger things have happened...then the cats take 3 or 4 blatant slashes and Campannelli trying to throw the puck... Seitz skating is a big issue against a team that can skate and move the puck. Today 6 of the 8 points were the 3 OA's...younger skill guys need to step up...Khovanov? Pelletier? MacDonald?
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Post by Captain Obvious on Apr 8, 2018 21:30:37 GMT -4
I think it boils down to Moncton not being as skilled as Blaineville. No excuses are necessary. Moncton finished last in the league just 12 months ago. Now their facing possibly the best junior team in the Country. Blaineville is playing at a totally different level than the Cats. Being discouraged by the outcome is like Halifax being discouraged when they lost to Moncton in the 2006 playoffs in round #2. The outcome is pretty much etched in stone. Everyone knew barring a miracle that Moncton had zero chance to win this series. I'm happy they made it through Rimouski! Winning 1 against the Armada would just be gravy. Not that the cats should expect to win...but everybody wrote them off against Rimouski and they won by playing a tight defensive game and taking advantage of their chances. BBA is older and faster pace than Rimouski, but in order to have a chance, you can't constantly take blatant penalties(plus there were about 8-10 more they could have called that were obvious) and run around out of position.
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Post by buckybuckbuck on Apr 8, 2018 21:34:46 GMT -4
I wouldn't pick on Aspirot or Seitz. Those two plus Campinelli seem to be the only ones having an effect. Phelan is struggling to find space but many of them play like they accept their fate. I like players that show up, it shows character. I wouldn't criticize passion and heart just because sometimes it comes out wrong. They will be fine. Not sure I would equate dumb penalties with caring...the game was still within reach...unlikely, but stranger things have happened...then the cats take 3 or 4 blatant slashes and Campannelli trying to throw the puck... Seitz skating is a big issue against a team that can skate and move the puck. Today 6 of the 8 points were the 3 OA's...younger skill guys need to step up...Khovanov? Pelletier? MacDonald? The game was lost before the third started and most of the good in the first was from those players and a few others. I wouldn't characterize a frustration penalty as no caring, it comes from caring too much.
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Post by npsh on Apr 8, 2018 22:31:42 GMT -4
Fifteen goals against in the first two games in second round playoff hockey kinda shows the scoring punch this first place B-B has.
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Post by Captain Obvious on Apr 9, 2018 7:07:56 GMT -4
Not sure I would equate dumb penalties with caring...the game was still within reach...unlikely, but stranger things have happened...then the cats take 3 or 4 blatant slashes and Campannelli trying to throw the puck... Seitz skating is a big issue against a team that can skate and move the puck. Today 6 of the 8 points were the 3 OA's...younger skill guys need to step up...Khovanov? Pelletier? MacDonald? The game was lost before the third started and most of the good in the first was from those players and a few others. I wouldn't characterize a frustration penalty as no caring, it comes from caring too much. They took 4 penalties in a row with the score 6-3 and 5 or 6 minutes left. They were still in the game then...
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Post by Deleted on Apr 9, 2018 7:47:35 GMT -4
The game was lost before the third started and most of the good in the first was from those players and a few others. I wouldn't characterize a frustration penalty as no caring, it comes from caring too much. They took 4 penalties in a row with the score 6-3 and 5 or 6 minutes left. They were still in the game then... Sure they were....all they needed was 4 goals in 5 minutes to earn the w.
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Post by SteveUL on Apr 9, 2018 7:55:46 GMT -4
I think it boils down to Moncton not being as skilled as Blaineville. No excuses are necessary. Moncton finished last in the league just 12 months ago. Now their facing possibly the best junior team in the Country. Blaineville is playing at a totally different level than the Cats. Being discouraged by the outcome is like Halifax being discouraged when they lost to Moncton in the 2006 playoffs in round #2. The outcome is pretty much etched in stone. Everyone knew barring a miracle that Moncton had zero chance to win this series. I'm happy they made it through Rimouski! Winning 1 against the Armada would just be gravy. Not that the cats should expect to win...but everybody wrote them off against Rimouski and they won by playing a tight defensive game and taking advantage of their chances. BBA is older and faster pace than Rimouski, but in order to have a chance, you can't constantly take blatant penalties(plus there were about 8-10 more they could have called that were obvious) and run around out of position. They beat Rimouski because of a tight defensive style ... and because they outworked Rimouski. This BBA team works too hard to have a chance to outwork them. They don't take a shift off.
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Post by SteveUL on Apr 9, 2018 8:01:22 GMT -4
The game was lost before the third started and most of the good in the first was from those players and a few others. I wouldn't characterize a frustration penalty as no caring, it comes from caring too much. They took 4 penalties in a row with the score 6-3 and 5 or 6 minutes left. They were still in the game then... It was 6-3 in the 3rd when all that BS started. BBA rarely gives up more than 2 goals and so us scoring 3 more in a half period without giving up anymore was virtually impossible. The penalties didn't change anything ... they were simply a message to Bouchard that if he was going to keep rolling out his #1 PP unit that somebody important to his team was going to have a broken wrist. Bouchard clued in after awhile.
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Post by jimmy on Apr 9, 2018 8:05:09 GMT -4
Not that the cats should expect to win...but everybody wrote them off against Rimouski and they won by playing a tight defensive game and taking advantage of their chances. BBA is older and faster pace than Rimouski, but in order to have a chance, you can't constantly take blatant penalties(plus there were about 8-10 more they could have called that were obvious) and run around out of position. They beat Rimouski because of a tight defensive style ... and because they outworked Rimouski. This BBA team works too hard to have a chance to outwork them. They don't take a shift off. BBA has the top line talent to bury us that Rimouski didn't have ... against BBA, if you make a mistake, the puck is in the net ... very easy to fall behind early - then when we have to open it up a bit, their superior skill can run us out of the rink. Riki were more a tight checking, defensive minded team - so if we could keep it tight against them, if a bounce or two went our way we had a chance.
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Post by Captain Obvious on Apr 9, 2018 9:13:21 GMT -4
They took 4 penalties in a row with the score 6-3 and 5 or 6 minutes left. They were still in the game then... It was 6-3 in the 3rd when all that BS started. BBA rarely gives up more than 2 goals and so us scoring 3 more in a half period without giving up anymore was virtually impossible. The penalties didn't change anything ... they were simply a message to Bouchard that if he was going to keep rolling out his #1 PP unit that somebody important to his team was going to have a broken wrist. Bouchard clued in after awhile. They scored 2 in under a minute. If I was coaching I would have been pissed. Plus you have to assume that the refs for next game will be warned by the supervisor that the WC are out there taking liberties so it gives them no margin for error.
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Post by npsh on Apr 9, 2018 10:00:18 GMT -4
It was 6-3 in the 3rd when all that BS started. BBA rarely gives up more than 2 goals and so us scoring 3 more in a half period without giving up anymore was virtually impossible. The penalties didn't change anything ... they were simply a message to Bouchard that if he was going to keep rolling out his #1 PP unit that somebody important to his team was going to have a broken wrist. Bouchard clued in after awhile. They scored 2 in under a minute. If I was coaching I would have been pissed. Plus you have to assume that the refs for next game will be warned by the supervisor that the WC are out there taking liberties so it gives them no margin for error. In the third period alone Wildcats has 13 minors assessed against them which included 4 slashing calls, liberties maybe but they sure got called out on it- and rightfully so. Undisciplined and frustrations, more of the former I would argue, then again moot because B-B made such antics look stupid by racking up the score.
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Post by SteveUL on Apr 9, 2018 10:04:53 GMT -4
They scored 2 in under a minute. If I was coaching I would have been pissed. Plus you have to assume that the refs for next game will be warned by the supervisor that the WC are out there taking liberties so it gives them no margin for error. In the third period alone Wildcats has 13 minors assessed against them which included 4 slashing calls, liberties maybe but they sure got called out on it- and rightfully so. Undisciplined and frustrations, more of the former I would argue, then again moot because B-B made such antics look stupid by racking up the score. The Wildcats weren't trying to compete anymore at that point. They had given up on the game and were intent on losing. They were more interested in trying to injure somebody because they didn't like Bouchard rolling out his top line on every PP.
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Post by yesisaiditfirst on Apr 9, 2018 10:07:40 GMT -4
Armada did leave some of their top players on bench with under 5 minutes left
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Post by SteveUL on Apr 9, 2018 10:08:04 GMT -4
It was 6-3 in the 3rd when all that BS started. BBA rarely gives up more than 2 goals and so us scoring 3 more in a half period without giving up anymore was virtually impossible. The penalties didn't change anything ... they were simply a message to Bouchard that if he was going to keep rolling out his #1 PP unit that somebody important to his team was going to have a broken wrist. Bouchard clued in after awhile. They scored 2 in under a minute. If I was coaching I would have been pissed. Plus you have to assume that the refs for next game will be warned by the supervisor that the WC are out there taking liberties so it gives them no margin for error. They scored two PP goals ... did not even score a goal in the game at 5 on 5. BBA wasn't even reacting to the cheapshots they were taking so they didn't get drawn into any more PPs. The Wildcats simply do not have the horsepower to compete with this team because they work too hard. We beat Rimouski because we could outwork them ... and did ... but when we didn't come to work we were easy for Rimouski to beat.
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Post by SteveUL on Apr 9, 2018 10:08:44 GMT -4
Armada did leave some of their top players on bench with under 5 minutes left Yes ... Bouchard got the message by that point.
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