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Post by Captain Obvious on Apr 9, 2018 12:17:51 GMT -4
In the third period alone Wildcats has 13 minors assessed against them which included 4 slashing calls, liberties maybe but they sure got called out on it- and rightfully so. Undisciplined and frustrations, more of the former I would argue, then again moot because B-B made such antics look stupid by racking up the score. The Wildcats weren't trying to compete anymore at that point. They had given up on the game and were intent on losing. They were more interested in trying to injure somebody because they didn't like Bouchard rolling out his top line on every PP. In a 6-3 game with 6 or 7 minutes left, what coach would not put his top PP out there? Not like it's a 9-1 game. 3 goals is not insurmountable with 6-7 minutes left, you'd have to be an idiot NOT to put your best PP out there to try and ice the game... |
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Post by SteveUL on Apr 9, 2018 12:24:11 GMT -4
The Wildcats weren't trying to compete anymore at that point. They had given up on the game and were intent on losing. They were more interested in trying to injure somebody because they didn't like Bouchard rolling out his top line on every PP. In a 6-3 game with 6 or 7 minutes left, what coach would not put his top PP out there? Not like it's a 9-1 game. 3 goals is not insurmountable with 6-7 minutes left, you'd have to be an idiot NOT to put your best PP out there to try and ice the game... Are you suggesting that the Wildcats were trying to win and weren't just trying to hurt the top line players for BBA ? |
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Post by Deleted on Apr 9, 2018 12:27:19 GMT -4
You can still run your top pp but more likely you give the second unit a crack first. However with all the slashing and stick fouls BBA should have kept rolling their best and run the score up. I remember when a team that was an underdog and was losing used to go out and hit everything for the third period...try and grind down the other teams best d and forwards...make the loss an investment in the next game.i guess slashes and highsticks are another cheaper and greasier way to do it.
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Post by SteveUL on Apr 9, 2018 12:29:04 GMT -4
You can still run your top pp but more likely you give the second unit a crack first. However with all the slashing and stick fouls BBA should have kept rolling their best and run the score up. I remember when a team that was an underdog and was losing used to go out and hit everything for the third period...try and grind down the other teams best d and forwards...make the loss an investment in the next game.i guess slashes and highsticks are another cheaper and greasier way to do it. Losing 9-3 or 6-3 doesn't make any difference in the playoffs ... there are no tiebreakers anymore. |
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Post by sherwood1020 on Apr 9, 2018 12:40:57 GMT -4
Watching the game yesterday, I couldn't help but notice the only time I had heard any mention of Anderson MacDonald was when he took a penalty in the third. For a player who you paid a steep, steep price for, you would think he would be out there making some sort of a difference. 0 pts and a -2 for the game. Hope he turns it around soon.
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Post by amateurcoach99 on Apr 9, 2018 12:41:19 GMT -4
I wouldn't pick on Aspirot or Seitz. Those two plus Campinelli seem to be the only ones having an effect. Phelan is struggling to find space but many of them play like they accept their fate. I like players that show up, it shows character. I wouldn't criticize passion and heart just because sometimes it comes out wrong. They will be fine. Not sure I would equate dumb penalties with caring...the game was still within reach...unlikely, but stranger things have happened...then the cats take 3 or 4 blatant slashes and Campannelli trying to throw the puck... Seitz skating is a big issue against a team that can skate and move the puck. Today 6 of the 8 points were the 3 OA's...younger skill guys need to step up...Khovanov? Pelletier? MacDonald? Can't believe all slashing penalties were the idea of the players - we haven't done that all year - my guess is they were told to do it. Younger guys need ice time to step up - if I'm not mistaken Pelletier had 5 shifts in 2nd and 6 in 3rd...Khovanov 5 and 5 and Macdonald was 3 and 3...our 4 on 3 PP for over 2 min had 3 OA and McKenna...yes the scored 2 goals but Rumble needs to wake up |
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Post by lirette on Apr 9, 2018 12:48:37 GMT -4
Watching the game yesterday, I couldn't help but notice the only time I had heard any mention of Anderson MacDonald was when he took a penalty in the third. For a player who you paid a steep, steep price for, you would think he would be out there making some sort of a difference. 0 pts and a -2 for the game. Hope he turns it around soon. I'd say whatever program McKenna was on last summer, put MacDonald on the same one. He's been mostly invisible in the playoffs besides a late goal against Rimouski. I'm not overly concerned considering he still put up almost 30 goals as a 17 year old, even though it wasn't a big jump from last season. Sometimes guys don't make a big jump from 16-17 but then at 18 take their game to the next level. He seems to be having a tough time with the tighter checking style of the playoffs..both Rimouski & BBA do not give much space to players like him. If he puts up 40 goals next season he is absolutely worth the price. Goal scorers are not easy to find or aquire. |
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Post by npsh on Apr 9, 2018 12:56:41 GMT -4
In a 6-3 game with 6 or 7 minutes left, what coach would not put his top PP out there? Not like it's a 9-1 game. 3 goals is not insurmountable with 6-7 minutes left, you'd have to be an idiot NOT to put your best PP out there to try and ice the game... Are you suggesting that the Wildcats were trying to win and weren't just trying to hurt the top line players for BBA ? Tell me something, hopefully you do believe (intent to hurt) backfired because B-B got even a better message out with “ watch this.... racked up the score up to an embarrassing 9 goal level”. I hope Rumble left yesterday with his tail between his legs with embarrassment. I bet this reinforces B-B to get it done and over with next two games, wouldn’t surprise me one bit if that is exactly what will go down. |
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Post by Deleted on Apr 9, 2018 13:38:35 GMT -4
Not sure I would equate dumb penalties with caring...the game was still within reach...unlikely, but stranger things have happened...then the cats take 3 or 4 blatant slashes and Campannelli trying to throw the puck... Seitz skating is a big issue against a team that can skate and move the puck. Today 6 of the 8 points were the 3 OA's...younger skill guys need to step up...Khovanov? Pelletier? MacDonald? Can't believe all slashing penalties were the idea of the players - we haven't done that all year - my guess is they were told to do it. Younger guys need ice time to step up - if I'm not mistaken Pelletier had 5 shifts in 2nd and 6 in 3rd...Khovanov 5 and 5 and Macdonald was 3 and 3...our 4 on 3 PP for over 2 min had 3 OA and McKenna...yes the scored 2 goals but Rumble needs to wake up You think a bunch of teenage players getting frustrated and embarrassed on the ice needed a coach to tell them to start slashing and taking stupid penalties? Shake your head... The young players produced nothing for 2 periods...so you roll your vets...rest the youngsters and get ready for game three...maybe missing a few shifts will get their feet moving. |
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Post by SteveUL on Apr 9, 2018 14:50:17 GMT -4
Are you suggesting that the Wildcats were trying to win and weren't just trying to hurt the top line players for BBA ? Tell me something, hopefully you do believe (intent to hurt) backfired because B-B got even a better message out with “ watch this.... racked up the score up to an embarrassing 9 goal level”. I hope Rumble left yesterday with his tail between his legs with embarrassment. I bet this reinforces B-B to get it done and over with next two games, wouldn’t surprise me one bit if that is exactly what will go down. No it didn't backfire ... but it didn't solve anything either. The game was already lost ... so they lost 9-3 instead of 6-3 ... it is still just another loss. In the playoffs ... losing 2-1 in triple OT or losing 9-3 is still the same thing ... a loss. |
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Post by Captain Obvious on Apr 9, 2018 15:52:48 GMT -4
Not sure I would equate dumb penalties with caring...the game was still within reach...unlikely, but stranger things have happened...then the cats take 3 or 4 blatant slashes and Campannelli trying to throw the puck... Seitz skating is a big issue against a team that can skate and move the puck. Today 6 of the 8 points were the 3 OA's...younger skill guys need to step up...Khovanov? Pelletier? MacDonald? Can't believe all slashing penalties were the idea of the players - we haven't done that all year - my guess is they were told to do it. Younger guys need ice time to step up - if I'm not mistaken Pelletier had 5 shifts in 2nd and 6 in 3rd...Khovanov 5 and 5 and Macdonald was 3 and 3...our 4 on 3 PP for over 2 min had 3 OA and McKenna...yes the scored 2 goals but Rumble needs to wake up I have no issue with that...1-the OA guys are scoring and 2-there is lots of ice time for the players mentionned above, they just need to produce, or at least make things happen...You don't need 20 minutes a game for a forward to make a difference. |
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Post by Captain Obvious on Apr 9, 2018 15:54:54 GMT -4
Watching the game yesterday, I couldn't help but notice the only time I had heard any mention of Anderson MacDonald was when he took a penalty in the third. For a player who you paid a steep, steep price for, you would think he would be out there making some sort of a difference. 0 pts and a -2 for the game. Hope he turns it around soon. I'd say whatever program McKenna was on last summer, put MacDonald on the same one. He's been mostly invisible in the playoffs besides a late goal against Rimouski. I'm not overly concerned considering he still put up almost 30 goals as a 17 year old, even though it wasn't a big jump from last season. Sometimes guys don't make a big jump from 16-17 but then at 18 take their game to the next level. He seems to be having a tough time with the tighter checking style of the playoffs..both Rimouski & BBA do not give much space to players like him. If he puts up 40 goals next season he is absolutely worth the price. Goal scorers are not easy to find or aquire. MacDonald isn't a great natural skater, so he needs to keep his feet moving and use his body or he fades into the background. I would say McKenna is a good comparison except MacDonald is bigger and has a bit more natural ability. |
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Post by Captain Obvious on Apr 9, 2018 15:55:41 GMT -4
Not sure I would equate dumb penalties with caring...the game was still within reach...unlikely, but stranger things have happened...then the cats take 3 or 4 blatant slashes and Campannelli trying to throw the puck... Seitz skating is a big issue against a team that can skate and move the puck. Today 6 of the 8 points were the 3 OA's...younger skill guys need to step up...Khovanov? Pelletier? MacDonald? Can't believe all slashing penalties were the idea of the players - we haven't done that all year - my guess is they were told to do it. Younger guys need ice time to step up - if I'm not mistaken Pelletier had 5 shifts in 2nd and 6 in 3rd...Khovanov 5 and 5 and Macdonald was 3 and 3...our 4 on 3 PP for over 2 min had 3 OA and McKenna...yes the scored 2 goals but Rumble needs to wake up I have never heard of a coach telling his players to start slashing the opposition...at any level... |
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Post by npsh on Apr 9, 2018 16:25:14 GMT -4
Can't believe all slashing penalties were the idea of the players - we haven't done that all year - my guess is they were told to do it. Younger guys need ice time to step up - if I'm not mistaken Pelletier had 5 shifts in 2nd and 6 in 3rd...Khovanov 5 and 5 and Macdonald was 3 and 3...our 4 on 3 PP for over 2 min had 3 OA and McKenna...yes the scored 2 goals but Rumble needs to wake up I have never heard of a coach telling his players to start slashing the opposition...at any level... Agreed, very doubtful on any coach giving slashing instructions to his/her team. Having said that from time 12.41 til 18.36 in third Wildcats assessed nine minors which included four of those for slashing and three for unsportsmanlike conduct. Some may see that as Rumble not showing any inclination to cool down his bench. |
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Post by lirette on Apr 9, 2018 16:37:15 GMT -4
I'd say whatever program McKenna was on last summer, put MacDonald on the same one. He's been mostly invisible in the playoffs besides a late goal against Rimouski. I'm not overly concerned considering he still put up almost 30 goals as a 17 year old, even though it wasn't a big jump from last season. Sometimes guys don't make a big jump from 16-17 but then at 18 take their game to the next level. He seems to be having a tough time with the tighter checking style of the playoffs..both Rimouski & BBA do not give much space to players like him. If he puts up 40 goals next season he is absolutely worth the price. Goal scorers are not easy to find or aquire. MacDonald isn't a great natural skater, so he needs to keep his feet moving and use his body or he fades into the background. I would say McKenna is a good comparison except MacDonald is bigger and has a bit more natural ability. I'm not even necessarily comparing the two..as McKenna has a better playmaking ability and better hands..but I know in a few interviews with Rumble/McKenna/Shannon that they mentioned they they asked him to work on some things in the off season, as well as concentrate on his nutrition and off ice workouts and a lot of that paid dividends this season in his overall game. I'm sure every player is told similar things..but seems like McKenna put a ton of hard work in to get where he was at. I hope it rubs off on the rest of the team. |
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