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Post by Captain Obvious on Aug 14, 2018 7:59:57 GMT -4
From an article that just came out, here are the WC top 10 prospects:
1-Desnoyers(16) C
2-Spence(17) D
3-Kingsbury(16) W
4-Lavallee(16) G
5-Stewart(17) C
6-Foreman(17) W
7-Gaudreault(18) G
8-Rumsey(17) W
9-King(18) W
10-Stewart(17) D
Surprised Hiller or Vanier were not there ahead of the #8-10 guys...
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Post by lirette on Aug 14, 2018 8:25:51 GMT -4
From an article that just came out, here are the WC top 10 prospects: 1-Desnoyers(16) C 2-Spence(17) D 3-Kingsbury(16) W 4-Lavallee(16) G 5-Stewart(17) C 6-Foreman(17) W 7-Gaudreault(18) G 8-Rumsey(17) W 9-King(18) W 10-Stewart(17) D Surprised Hiller or Vanier were not there ahead of the #8-10 guys... To me once a guy is 18 and cannot go back to midget I don't view them as a "prospect". Sure they still have 3 potential seasons left, but they are also 1 season away from being a 19 year old on waivers. Either way this is the best one of these lists we've had in awhile since its not filled with guys we know will never show up. The top 4 should all be impact players down the road. |
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Post by jimmy on Aug 14, 2018 8:33:35 GMT -4
From an article that just came out, here are the WC top 10 prospects: 1-Desnoyers(16) C 2-Spence(17) D 3-Kingsbury(16) W 4-Lavallee(16) G 5-Stewart(17) C 6-Foreman(17) W 7-Gaudreault(18) G 8-Rumsey(17) W 9-King(18) W 10-Stewart(17) D Surprised Hiller or Vanier were not there ahead of the #8-10 guys... To me once a guy is 18 and cannot go back to midget I don't view them as a "prospect". Sure they still have 3 potential seasons left, but they are also 1 season away from being a 19 year old on waivers. Either way this is the best one of these lists we've had in awhile since its not filled with guys we know will never show up. The top 4 should all be impact players down the road. I would say, with the odd exception, the year you come to camp as an 18 year old is your last shot as a prospect ... if you don't crack the team that fall, you are likely out of chances with that organization, and if you do end up making it, it will likely be somewhere else. |
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Post by Captain Obvious on Aug 14, 2018 9:00:58 GMT -4
From an article that just came out, here are the WC top 10 prospects: 1-Desnoyers(16) C 2-Spence(17) D 3-Kingsbury(16) W 4-Lavallee(16) G 5-Stewart(17) C 6-Foreman(17) W 7-Gaudreault(18) G 8-Rumsey(17) W 9-King(18) W 10-Stewart(17) D Surprised Hiller or Vanier were not there ahead of the #8-10 guys... To me once a guy is 18 and cannot go back to midget I don't view them as a "prospect". Sure they still have 3 potential seasons left, but they are also 1 season away from being a 19 year old on waivers. Either way this is the best one of these lists we've had in awhile since its not filled with guys we know will never show up. The top 4 should all be impact players down the road. Yeah it's an uphill battle. For an 18 year old to crack a roster you have to safely assume he will be a full time top 9 guy by midseason. |
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Post by WhiteTyAffair on Aug 14, 2018 9:11:12 GMT -4
To me once a guy is 18 and cannot go back to midget I don't view them as a "prospect". Sure they still have 3 potential seasons left, but they are also 1 season away from being a 19 year old on waivers. Either way this is the best one of these lists we've had in awhile since its not filled with guys we know will never show up. The top 4 should all be impact players down the road. Yeah it's an uphill battle. For an 18 year old to crack a roster you have to safely assume he will be a full time top 9 guy by midseason. Ozzie King is a really good fit for the right side of the 3rd line. That’s where I see him playing. Ritchie Thibeau seems high on him. |
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Post by Captain Obvious on Aug 14, 2018 9:25:01 GMT -4
Yeah it's an uphill battle. For an 18 year old to crack a roster you have to safely assume he will be a full time top 9 guy by midseason. Ozzie King is a really good fit for the right side of the 3rd line. That’s where I see him playing. Ritchie Thibeau seems high on him. From a prospect standpoint though, I don't think he has as much upside as Hiller. |
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Post by jimmy on Aug 14, 2018 9:37:52 GMT -4
Ozzie King is a really good fit for the right side of the 3rd line. That’s where I see him playing. Ritchie Thibeau seems high on him. From a prospect standpoint though, I don't think he has as much upside as Hiller. Agreed on upside, but probably a higher floor. King is almost like an FA - at this point, what you see is what you get. If you think he is good enough now to play 3rd or at least regular on 4th line, he could be a two year bottom 6 player for you ... so not a top prospect, but I can see how he squeaks in as a 8-10 range prospect. There is some value to a guy who has a decent chance to contribute for two years. Hillier, on the other hand, like many 16 year olds, is more of a wildcard. He could turn out to be a top line player in the Q; it is also possible that he never makes it as a regular or at all ... IMO the range of possible outcomes is much wider. If he comes to camp and impresses, then he could win a job over a guy like King - King needs to show that he is significantly better right now than a young guy like Hillier in order to get the spot. Reading between the lines based on what Hodge has written since the draft, it doesn't appear the Cats are expecting Hillier on the roster this year - he would likely need a huge camp to win a spot. |
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Post by Captain Obvious on Aug 14, 2018 10:21:11 GMT -4
From a prospect standpoint though, I don't think he has as much upside as Hiller. Agreed on upside, but probably a higher floor. King is almost like an FA - at this point, what you see is what you get. If you think he is good enough now to play 3rd or at least regular on 4th line, he could be a two year bottom 6 player for you ... so not a top prospect, but I can see how he squeaks in as a 8-10 range prospect. There is some value to a guy who has a decent chance to contribute for two years. Hillier, on the other hand, like many 16 year olds, is more of a wildcard. He could turn out to be a top line player in the Q; it is also possible that he never makes it as a regular or at all ... IMO the range of possible outcomes is much wider. If he comes to camp and impresses, then he could win a job over a guy like King - King needs to show that he is significantly better right now than a young guy like Hillier in order to get the spot. Reading between the lines based on what Hodge has written since the draft, it doesn't appear the Cats are expecting Hillier on the roster this year - he would likely need a huge camp to win a spot. Based on what I know of Hillier as a prospect, as well as what I know of King, plus where the team is at right now, I would think Hiller would be a heavy favorite IF they are going head to head for one spot...we can assume there are enough spots for both when we look at guys like Lazure, Blackmore and Kuzmin. My thought on that is that there is maybe 1 spot for those guys, maybe none if none of the 3 really stand out. Kuzmin has the upside to play top 6, but he is not a Rumble favorite... |
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Post by Captain Obvious on Aug 14, 2018 15:49:24 GMT -4
Ismaël Bilodeau @ismaelbilodeau · 5m5 minutes ago More * Free agent update * Goalie - Riley Daniels, 6’1 203 lbs has been added to monctonwildcats training camp roster. He was playing for @attackohl - 3rd round draft pick in 2015 OHL Draft #freeagent |
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Post by catzfans on Aug 14, 2018 17:38:11 GMT -4
Has there been any updates at all about Grametbauer and his injury?
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Post by WhiteTyAffair on Aug 14, 2018 18:55:59 GMT -4
Has there been any updates at all about Grametbauer and his injury? He’s out until late December / early January. |
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Post by jimmy on Aug 15, 2018 8:50:01 GMT -4
Ismaël Bilodeau @ismaelbilodeau · 5m5 minutes ago More * Free agent update * Goalie - Riley Daniels, 6’1 203 lbs has been added to monctonwildcats training camp roster. He was playing for @attackohl - 3rd round draft pick in 2015 OHL Draft #freeagent Interesting ... wonder how he fits in the mix? Only a handful of OHL games, decent stats in the GOJHL (Jr. B?) ... 19 years old ... can't see him sticking as a backup as we have decent younger options to choose from - so presumably he is here to compete with Leclerc for the #1 job? If he managed to beat out Leclerc, we could add an OA on defense to help solidify the team ... |
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Post by Captain Obvious on Aug 15, 2018 9:25:25 GMT -4
Ismaël Bilodeau @ismaelbilodeau · 5m5 minutes ago More * Free agent update * Goalie - Riley Daniels, 6’1 203 lbs has been added to monctonwildcats training camp roster. He was playing for @attackohl - 3rd round draft pick in 2015 OHL Draft #freeagent Interesting ... wonder how he fits in the mix? Only a handful of OHL games, decent stats in the GOJHL (Jr. B?) ... 19 years old ... can't see him sticking as a backup as we have decent younger options to choose from - so presumably he is here to compete with Leclerc for the #1 job? If he managed to beat out Leclerc, we could add an OA on defense to help solidify the team ... That was my thought... |
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Post by Arnold Slick on Aug 15, 2018 10:31:22 GMT -4
Ismaël Bilodeau @ismaelbilodeau · 5m5 minutes ago More * Free agent update * Goalie - Riley Daniels, 6’1 203 lbs has been added to monctonwildcats training camp roster. He was playing for @attackohl - 3rd round draft pick in 2015 OHL Draft #freeagent Interesting ... wonder how he fits in the mix? Only a handful of OHL games, decent stats in the GOJHL (Jr. B?) ... 19 years old ... can't see him sticking as a backup as we have decent younger options to choose from - so presumably he is here to compete with Leclerc for the #1 job? If he managed to beat out Leclerc, we could add an OA on defense to help solidify the team ... Owen Sound did not have great goaltending last year so if he couldn’t stick there I don’t love his chances of being the #1 here. Still worth a look though. |
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Post by jimmy on Aug 15, 2018 12:16:18 GMT -4
Interesting ... wonder how he fits in the mix? Only a handful of OHL games, decent stats in the GOJHL (Jr. B?) ... 19 years old ... can't see him sticking as a backup as we have decent younger options to choose from - so presumably he is here to compete with Leclerc for the #1 job? If he managed to beat out Leclerc, we could add an OA on defense to help solidify the team ... That was my thought... Another thought popped into my mind ... maybe there is a problem with LeClerc and they are looking for a warm body with experience ... could be either an injury, or perhaps he has declined to report. Wouldn't shock me if he didn't report ... basically being brought in just to keep Grametbauer's job warm until he returns, at which point the Cats will likely just toss him to the curb. Perhaps he prefers to control his own destiny as a 20 year old, and find himself a good situation in junior A or CIS somewhere that accommodates his personal and academic life more than bouncing around mid-season and hoping to find an appealing spot in need of a goalie at the same time Grametbauer comes back ... |
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