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Post by scotiahockey on Aug 16, 2018 9:13:48 GMT -4
Makes complete sense for any 16 year old kid that doesn’t have a real chance to play and play significant minutes, to not report/hold onto their NCAA eligibility for another year. Why burn something at 16 when you’re not a top end guy? It just makes no sense, so much can change from year to year development wise.
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Post by SteveUL on Aug 16, 2018 9:34:12 GMT -4
Might he be earmarked to be a 20 YO goaltender next year when the rules allow 4 OAs if one is a goaltender ? He'd obviously have to be good enough to want to do that.
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Post by WhiteTyAffair on Aug 16, 2018 10:01:40 GMT -4
No shows on the protected list: Cash(99) F Dawe(99) F Hillier(02) F MacArthur(99) F McGregor(00) F Scrivens(00) F Walsh(00) F Keegan(00) D Krys(98) D Nicholson(01) D Webster(00) D Grant(99) G Hillier wants to play another year at St Andrews College in Ontario. He intends to be here next August. Scrivens is a last minute cancel. |
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Post by Captain Obvious on Aug 16, 2018 10:17:13 GMT -4
Makes complete sense for any 16 year old kid that doesn’t have a real chance to play and play significant minutes, to not report/hold onto their NCAA eligibility for another year. Why burn something at 16 when you’re not a top end guy? It just makes no sense, so much can change from year to year development wise. Leaving after 48 hours if you're not guaranteed a spot is not the same as not showing up at all and saying you are going NCAA. |
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Post by Arnold Slick on Aug 16, 2018 10:48:01 GMT -4
Well he's not old enough to play NCAA hockey. So deciding to protect his eligibility to keep his options open is completely different from actually playing NCAA. He would only be getting 4th line ice time here. Can revisit this one next year or at least until he commits to a school. He can but, usually NL players that opt for NCAA don't usually change their mind. Kris Hodge is from Newfoundland and if I recall correctly did not attend camp as a 16 YO. He was then on the team the next year. Sounds like a similar situation in this case. |
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Post by Captain Obvious on Aug 16, 2018 11:07:31 GMT -4
He can but, usually NL players that opt for NCAA don't usually change their mind. Kris Hodge is from Newfoundland and if I recall correctly did not attend camp as a 16 YO. He was then on the team the next year. Sounds like a similar situation in this case. Hodge was definitely in camp, I don't recall if he played exhibitions or not but he came... |
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Post by scotiahockey on Aug 16, 2018 11:09:56 GMT -4
Makes complete sense for any 16 year old kid that doesn’t have a real chance to play and play significant minutes, to not report/hold onto their NCAA eligibility for another year. Why burn something at 16 when you’re not a top end guy? It just makes no sense, so much can change from year to year development wise. Leaving after 48 hours if you're not guaranteed a spot is not the same as not showing up at all and saying you are going NCAA. Yeah but why even come for 48 hours if you’re a 16 year old that likely won’t make it anyways? |
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Post by Captain Obvious on Aug 16, 2018 11:59:53 GMT -4
Leaving after 48 hours if you're not guaranteed a spot is not the same as not showing up at all and saying you are going NCAA. Yeah but why even come for 48 hours if you’re a 16 year old that likely won’t make it anyways? What makes you think he would not have made it? My impression was that Hiller had a spot on the team unless he had a terrible camp. They won't keep a bunch of 18 and 19 year olds who can't play top 9 every night. |
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Post by catzfans on Aug 16, 2018 13:00:48 GMT -4
Very disappointed in the news about Hillier. It had been mentioned after the draft that he intended to come to camp and make the team so something must have changed over the summer. Picking him and getting him to report is one of the reasons I was high on the Cats draft this year. Also makes sense why he was left off the top 10 prospects list.
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Post by Captain Obvious on Aug 16, 2018 13:22:23 GMT -4
Very disappointed in the news about Hillier. It had been mentioned after the draft that he intended to come to camp and make the team so something must have changed over the summer. Picking him and getting him to report is one of the reasons I was high on the Cats draft this year. Also makes sense why he was left off the top 10 prospects list. That's another thing I had not considered...if he was going to report next year they would have had him among their top 10 prospects. |
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Post by jimmy on Aug 16, 2018 13:28:22 GMT -4
Very disappointed in the news about Hillier. It had been mentioned after the draft that he intended to come to camp and make the team so something must have changed over the summer. Picking him and getting him to report is one of the reasons I was high on the Cats draft this year. Also makes sense why he was left off the top 10 prospects list. That's another thing I had not considered...if he was going to report next year they would have had him among their top 10 prospects. Breathe guys ... Hillier coming or not, especially this year, but even if he never shows, will not be the end of the franchise - he was our 5th pick in this past draft ... as for Hodge's list, it is not the Holy Bible ... maybe he just got squeezed off of it by guys drafted higher than him this year and guys they were expecting in camp with a shot to make the team this year. |
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Post by lirette on Aug 16, 2018 13:32:12 GMT -4
Very disappointed in the news about Hillier. It had been mentioned after the draft that he intended to come to camp and make the team so something must have changed over the summer. Picking him and getting him to report is one of the reasons I was high on the Cats draft this year. Also makes sense why he was left off the top 10 prospects list. That's another thing I had not considered...if he was going to report next year they would have had him among their top 10 prospects. Considering the top prospect list has been filled with guys in the past who were never going to report I don't see much use in overanalyzing that list to draw any conclusions. Perhaps he wasn't on it this year because they knew he wasn't coming..perhaps not. I don't see that as any confirmation hes not coming next year. Just because some players in newfoundland have made decisions to play NCAA in the past has nothing to do with Hillier. Hes still an individual person. Lots of Newfoundlanders have played in the league before. This isn't a guy who was likely to see any top 9 ice time..hopefully he decides to come next year when hes older and stronger and could make a bigger impact. |
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Post by Captain Obvious on Aug 16, 2018 13:38:02 GMT -4
That's another thing I had not considered...if he was going to report next year they would have had him among their top 10 prospects. Breathe guys ... Hillier coming or not, especially this year, but even if he never shows, will not be the end of the franchise - he was our 5th pick in this past draft ... as for Hodge's list, it is not the Holy Bible ... maybe he just got squeezed off of it by guys drafted higher than him this year and guys they were expecting in camp with a shot to make the team this year. In a vacuum, Hillier not coming is not a big deal...but when you pile it on top of the bad picks of the last 3-4 years plus Sylvestre and MacDonald trades it gets frustrating for most fans I'm sure. My guess is Hodge got the list from Thibeault. |
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Post by lirette on Aug 16, 2018 13:46:09 GMT -4
Breathe guys ... Hillier coming or not, especially this year, but even if he never shows, will not be the end of the franchise - he was our 5th pick in this past draft ... as for Hodge's list, it is not the Holy Bible ... maybe he just got squeezed off of it by guys drafted higher than him this year and guys they were expecting in camp with a shot to make the team this year. In a vacuum, Hillier not coming is not a big deal...but when you pile it on top of the bad picks of the last 3-4 years plus Sylvestre and MacDonald trades it gets frustrating for most fans I'm sure. My guess is Hodge got the list from Thibeault. Jesus, are we still doing this MacDonald thing? I would say "most" fans have zero clue who Mark Hillier even is, so I doubt there is much frustration aside from a few hardcores who follow the team religiously |
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Post by catzfans on Aug 16, 2018 13:50:41 GMT -4
I'm not trying to overanalyze or draw any conclusions just pointing it out since it was discussed earlier in this thread when some had questioned whether or not he was a top 10 prospect.
And of course I don't think this confirmation he'll never be here but using Brett Budgell as an example he at least showed up for 48 hours and left. After the last few years we have reason to be a bit skeptical when this happens. (Jeremy Jacques)
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