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Post by Deleted on May 29, 2019 8:05:35 GMT -4
Love the depth this team is currently developing. Gonna have an exciting seasons in 2020-21 and 2021-22! Still may have a struggling season this year as well with the looks of Halifax, Cape Breton, and Moncton being powerhouses next season and we all know how consistent Charlottetown is. Once they start dying down Saint John will be the superior team of the division and things will get good! Looking forward to the future of this organization and congrats on the 1st overall pick!
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Post by Briwhel on May 29, 2019 8:40:28 GMT -4
Unless they plan on moving some out or acquiring more they should have five. Villeneuve, Poirier, Lawrence, Drover and our new Euro I think they will try to be active e. I think they would like to get another 1st round pick at the draft. I was thinking of maybe a trade for a top 18 year old player. The fact that the consensus #1 has been changed makes me think that maybe TG trades down in the draft for a mid-First round pick and first line player. Just my opinion of course, I am definitely looking forward to the draft and beyond!! To be fair, I've seen nothing to suggest anything other than Joshua Roy going 1st overall to us. Robidas had a great playoffs, but Roy scored at a higher rate than Lafreniere.
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Post by Slap Shooter on May 29, 2019 8:59:52 GMT -4
I was thinking of maybe a trade for a top 18 year old player. The fact that the consensus #1 has been changed makes me think that maybe TG trades down in the draft for a mid-First round pick and first line player. Just my opinion of course, I am definitely looking forward to the draft and beyond!! To be fair, I've seen nothing to suggest anything other than Joshua Roy going 1st overall to us. Robidas had a great playoffs, but Roy scored at a higher rate than Lafreniere. The thing that scares me on Roy is that most of the scouts say that his compete level is not where it should or needs to be. The Scouts are saying Roy was not good in the playoffs and In April at the Gatorade Challenge, he didn’t stand out as much as we would have liked. Does that have to do with his Compete level when the competition got tougher and everyones compete level went up or did he just have a bad stretch? On Skill alone he should go number one.
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Post by Briwhel on May 29, 2019 9:43:27 GMT -4
To be fair, I've seen nothing to suggest anything other than Joshua Roy going 1st overall to us. Robidas had a great playoffs, but Roy scored at a higher rate than Lafreniere. The thing that scares me on Roy is that most of the scouts say that his compete level is not where it should or needs to be. The Scouts are saying Roy was not good in the playoffs and In April at the Gatorade Challenge, he didn’t stand out as much as we would have liked. Does that have to do with his Compete level when the competition got tougher and everyones compete level went up or did he just have a bad stretch? On Skill alone he should go number one. Only HP said that. Their profile of him based on what I have read seems a bit like Huberdeau's. The thing to remember is that his big asset is hockey sense.
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Post by Judas In My Mind on May 29, 2019 9:44:22 GMT -4
It would be nice to be able to pick up a very good 18 year old but I don't think we should move down that far. If we could stay in the top 5 we could still get a top end 16. If they wanted to do something like that they would not necessarily have to move down to do so. We do have 3 1st round picks for 2020 to play with after all (SJ, DRUM, BC), and 2 1st round picks in 2021 (SJ, HAL)
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Post by Slap Shooter on May 29, 2019 9:49:22 GMT -4
The thing that scares me on Roy is that most of the scouts say that his compete level is not where it should or needs to be. The Scouts are saying Roy was not good in the playoffs and In April at the Gatorade Challenge, he didn’t stand out as much as we would have liked. Does that have to do with his Compete level when the competition got tougher and everyones compete level went up or did he just have a bad stretch? On Skill alone he should go number one. Only HP said that. Their profile of him based on what I have read seems a bit like Huberdeau's. The thing to remember is that his big asset is hockey sense. That wouldn't be to bad if he turned out as good as Huberdeau did.
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Post by dogsfan1978 on May 29, 2019 10:09:49 GMT -4
It would be nice to be able to pick up a very good 18 year old but I don't think we should move down that far. If we could stay in the top 5 we could still get a top end 16. Maybe we could keep our 1st overall and move one of our other first round pics, I believe we have a few in the next draft don’t we? I’d like to see the kids be insulated with a veteran or two this year. Winning a few more games this season would be fantastic for the fans. I think we will be way better this year even if we don’t add any veterans however it wouldn’t hurt either!
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Post by Slap Shooter on May 29, 2019 10:48:08 GMT -4
It would be nice to be able to pick up a very good 18 year old but I don't think we should move down that far. If we could stay in the top 5 we could still get a top end 16. Maybe we could keep our 1st overall and move one of our other first round pics, I believe we have a few in the next draft don’t we? I’d like to see the kids be insulated with a veteran or two this year. Winning a few more games this season would be fantastic for the fans. I think we will be way better this year even if we don’t add any veterans however it wouldn’t hurt either! I was just replying to your suggestion that we should trade the pick for an 18 year old and a mid first round pick. If we were to trade the first overall for an 18 year old I was suggesting that we not move down any further than 4th or 5th pick. Personally the only way I think we should move the first is if we can get the top 2, 3 or 4 pick and another top 10 pick in the draft. Now we would probably have to give something else up as well but that would be something we could do. Then we could give up some picks from another draft to get a good 18.
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Post by Briwhel on May 29, 2019 11:16:08 GMT -4
We need a vet D badly.
As much as I like Deakin-Poot, if an OA D that could properly replace Campoli or Gagne became available (a character guy who would instantly step into our top 4), we would need to be all over it.
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Post by WhiteTyAffair on May 29, 2019 11:22:57 GMT -4
Hearing some GMs are starting to think Saint John will trade 1st overall. They feel their plan is to trade down to draft Cam Whynot. Apparently there is a family connection between him and the Seadogs organization.
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Post by seadogs10 on May 29, 2019 11:29:43 GMT -4
It better be for value is all I can say. If we trade take Whynot just because of a family connection instead of thinking he is the BPA then I'll be pretty disappointed. If the value is worth it to move down and then take him, that's different.
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Post by j3e4 on May 29, 2019 11:41:32 GMT -4
It better be for value is all I can say. If we trade take Whynot just because of a family connection instead of thinking he is the BPA then I'll be pretty disappointed. If the value is worth it to move down and then take him, that's different. Agreed. I'd rather trade up to get him using some picks from future years. But if we can get significant value from trading down and end up with the player they were planning to take prior to winning the draft lottery that wouldn't be so bad either.
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Post by Briwhel on May 29, 2019 11:51:55 GMT -4
If we could move 1 in a deal for 2 and 6 then took Whynot 6th, I'd be all for it.
There is no universe in which I would be okay with trading down from 1 to lose out on Roy/Robidas
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Post by joehockey on May 29, 2019 11:59:15 GMT -4
If we could move 1 in a deal for 2 and 6 then took Whynot 6th, I'd be all for it. There is no universe in which I would be okay with trading down from 1 to lose out on Roy/Robidas Saint John would probably have to give up a future first to make the trade palatable for Val d’Or. Is this a Luke Green situation again?
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Post by pinkbeaver on May 29, 2019 12:14:36 GMT -4
If we could move 1 in a deal for 2 and 6 then took Whynot 6th, I'd be all for it. There is no universe in which I would be okay with trading down from 1 to lose out on Roy/Robidas Saint John would probably have to give up a future first to make the trade palatable for Val d’Or. Is this a Luke Green situation again? I could see some sort of deal that allows them to get both Reynolds and Whynot in the 1st round.
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