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Post by Citris on Jan 4, 2019 22:28:07 GMT -4
Drover gets traded to SJ because he wants playing time and then gets sent down to jr a. Cape Breton coulda done that lol.
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Post by scotiahockey on Jan 4, 2019 22:49:24 GMT -4
There’s no problem with that, as they need ice time to develop too but Drover is IMO better than them. Except Drover has to play Jr. A in the 2nd half due to his age, where as the other guys can play in the Q. The rule is there to protect the players, the teams from themselves and the fans, as far as on ice product is concerned but it doesn’t really help the product when better players have to go down because of it. MacIntosh/Wilson may not have been the best examples to use but the point remains, if the rule is there in part to keep the product on the ice stronger, sending down a 16 year old even though he’s proven he’s more than capable of playing in the league (better than a number of guys on his team) doesn’t really do that. The rule is what it is though, the rule is there to protect everyone and it very likely is never a real issue where the team could legitimately ice 7 Q quality 16 year olds in 1 season. Of course you’re entitled to your opinion, but I’m curious how you feel that Drover is better than either of the two players mentioned? Have you seen enough of any of them to form that opinion, or are you going based on draft position (not the best indicator by the way, look at Will Poirier). For my part, I’ve only seen Drover play in two games. I’ve seen more of MacIntosh and Wilson but primarily last season’s second half as their playing time has been extremely limited this season. I do know all three of the above mentioned players have shown me skills. However I can’t really say with confidence any of them are significantly better than the others. Personally I’d rather see Drover go to Jr A and hopefully get lots of playing time (which he should if he’s as good as some feel he is) and meanwhile develop our 17s and 18s here, along with our current stable of 16s. I’m going by what I’ve seen with my own eyes of the 2 players and not their draft position. For Wilson and MacIntosh, I’m going by what I’ve seen of them at 15/16/17 and how they’ve progressed and where I think they’re going. Drover of what I’ve seen at 15/16. It’s just my opinion on the players, it means nothing in the grand scheme of things. Drover going to Jr. A though is a travesty, especially to the team he’s going too. They’re absolutely terrible, I don’t even like the coaching/development they have going on there. It’s not a great situation, he’s going to get all the ice time he wants there but is all the ice time you can handle in a terrible environment that good? I’m honestly not convinced the best spot for him to go, isn’t back to Major Midget.. that’s how bad that Jr. A team/program is. |
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Post by berner on Jan 4, 2019 23:07:55 GMT -4
Of course you’re entitled to your opinion, but I’m curious how you feel that Drover is better than either of the two players mentioned? Have you seen enough of any of them to form that opinion, or are you going based on draft position (not the best indicator by the way, look at Will Poirier). For my part, I’ve only seen Drover play in two games. I’ve seen more of MacIntosh and Wilson but primarily last season’s second half as their playing time has been extremely limited this season. I do know all three of the above mentioned players have shown me skills. However I can’t really say with confidence any of them are significantly better than the others. Personally I’d rather see Drover go to Jr A and hopefully get lots of playing time (which he should if he’s as good as some feel he is) and meanwhile develop our 17s and 18s here, along with our current stable of 16s. I’m going by what I’ve seen with my own eyes of the 2 players and not their draft position. For Wilson and MacIntosh, I’m going by what I’ve seen of them at 15/16/17 and how they’ve progressed and where I think they’re going. Drover of what I’ve seen at 15/16. It’s just my opinion on the players, it means nothing in the grand scheme of things. Drover going to Jr. A though is a travesty, especially to the team he’s going too. They’re absolutely terrible, I don’t even like the coaching/development they have going on there. It’s not a great situation, he’s going to get all the ice time he wants there but is all the ice time you can handle in a terrible environment that good? I’m honestly not convinced the best spot for him to go, isn’t back to Major Midget.. that’s how bad that Jr. A team/program is. Fair enough, I don’t know how much you’ve seen of them to figure Drover at 16 should take a spot on a Q team over a couple of 17 year olds with some untapped potential but it’s all good. Funny when you talk about the Valley Wildcats, it sounds like you could easily be talking about the Seadogs. |
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Post by downthemiddle on Jan 5, 2019 15:15:23 GMT -4
Its to bad they couldn't keep six of the 16 year olds and dress five each night. They could take turns scratching one of them and they would each get into close to 25 of the 30 remaining games. That actually makes sense. Do that from the beginning of the season and each player only misses 12 games and 16s rest sometimes rest anyway. Throw in injuries and WU17 and really guys wouldn't be playing much less than they would on other teams |
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Post by Jack Bauer on Jan 5, 2019 15:21:51 GMT -4
Drover gets traded to SJ because he wants playing time and then gets sent down to jr a. Cape Breton coulda done that lol. I don't buy the playing time being the issue at all. There are many ways to get a 16yr old playing time. We could have shipped him to Jr A and retained his trade value. He had excellent numbers for not playing much here at 16. If every kid that asked for a change in situation was traded half the league would switch hands during the trade period. |
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Post by Citris on Jan 5, 2019 15:34:25 GMT -4
I don't buy the playing time being the issue at all. There are many ways to get a 16yr old playing time. We could have shipped him to Jr A and retained his trade value. He had excellent numbers for not playing much here at 16. If every kid that asked for a change in situation was traded half the league would switch hands during the trade period. Yea I don't know the real reason behind the trade... because the value doesn't seem very good for a kid like Drover. |
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Post by direwolf on Jan 6, 2019 1:41:51 GMT -4
Honest question here. Does anyone think Da Silva is going to be ready to be a QMJHL starter next year? The few times I've seen him in goal he seems slow on his reaction speed and always seems a bit out of position. Just wondering what others thought. I can see Saint John trading for another starter next year. Or drafting another goalie in the first 4 rounds and give Savoie a chance.
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Post by scotiahockey on Jan 6, 2019 3:06:20 GMT -4
Honest question here. Does anyone think Da Silva is going to be ready to be a QMJHL starter next year? The few times I've seen him in goal he seems slow on his reaction speed and always seems a bit out of position. Just wondering what others thought. I can see Saint John trading for another starter next year. Or drafting another goalie in the first 4 rounds and give Savoie a chance. Honestly I’ve sort of given up on him, I thought they were acquiring the goalie of the future but he just hasn’t made progress since he was drafted and doesn’t ever look good. It’s hard to look good on a bad team but you’d think there’d at least be promising appearances and there really hasn’t been any. Pre-season is also just pre-season and really means nothing but it’s not even like he’s had good performances there the last 2 years. I’m not completely ready to cut ties on a 17 year old goalie but it’s soon time to right the ship. I’m not sure the Sea Dogs can enter next season with an 18 year old goalie that’s getting consistently lit up like a Christmas tree. |
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Post by j3e4 on Jan 6, 2019 3:13:13 GMT -4
I feel bad for Da Silva. I'd like to think he could still be a good goalie but I think his confidence must be super low. I still remember the game early in the year when he started against Bathurst. He let in a few goals and then made a save and a bunch of losers gave a mock cheer. I think if he got sent down and saw some action then maybe he could turn into a decent goalie.
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Post by yoyomamajoe on Jan 6, 2019 11:22:51 GMT -4
I feel bad for Da Silva. I'd like to think he could still be a good goalie but I think his confidence bust be super low. I still remember the game early in the year when he started against Bathurst. He let in a few goals and then made a save and a bunch of losers gave a mock cheer. I think if he got sent down and saw some action then maybe he could turn into a decent goalie. Bouthillier will be the starter next year, unless he shits the bed in the second half of this season. And daSilva and Savoie can battle out for backup |
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Post by berner on Jan 6, 2019 14:29:14 GMT -4
I’m optimistic at this point that we will catch Shawinigan and make the playoffs. And I really do think that for our young team a little bit of playoff hockey is more valuable than none, even if it’s a blowout.
What I’m curious is - does anyone here think we can catch BLB? And in so doing push them down further and give us a better lottery position? Too rosy an outlook? Thoughts?
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Post by Slap Shooter on Jan 6, 2019 14:35:52 GMT -4
It will be tough to catch up to anyone further ahead than Shawinigan. We have to many games against the top teams and only a few against some of the weaker teams. The boys have been playing a lot better and we might be able surprise a couple of the counters and pull off a couple of upsets. So there is a chance!
Looking at the standings B.B. has 12 points on us. We will need to win seven games or at least get some loses in OT just to catch them. and hoping they don’t win anymore games.
How many games do we have left against Moncton and Bathurst?😋
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Post by Slap Shooter on Jan 6, 2019 14:56:15 GMT -4
Now that I reviewed our schedule again, I see that there is about 10 or 11 games left that are very winnable. Throw in an upset or two against Moncton , Charlottetown or one of the other better teams coupled with a collapse of B.B. we could possibly catch them.
Bathurst - 4
Shawi - 2
BB
VD
Victo
Quebec
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Post by jordo999 on Jan 6, 2019 15:18:51 GMT -4
Now that I reviewed our schedule again, I see that there is about 10 or 11 games left that are very winnable. Throw in an upset or two against Moncton , Charlottetown or one of the other better teams coupled with a collapse of B.B. we could possibly catch them. Bathurst - 4 Shawi - 2 BB VD Victo Quebec the doubleheader this weekend in Bathurst will be 2 huge games for the playoff race! Should be good games |
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Post by joehockey on Jan 6, 2019 16:27:14 GMT -4
I really like the Sea Dogs plan. I’m interested to see how the team continues to develop over the next few years. They seemingly have a great core to be one of the teams to beat (Chicoutimi the other) in three years.
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