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Post by schutzthefrontdoor on Mar 2, 2019 10:16:56 GMT -4
Can someone please explain to me how coach Josh Dixon is still employed? We are on the way to a worse record despite a much better team than last year. In fact we are having the worst season in franchise history, worse than in 05-06, 06-07, 13-14, 17-18! I don't have any bad wishes for Dixon but it is clear that he is not a head coach at this level.
We have no clear playing system and the worst PP in the Q by far. I’m sure even a pee-wee coach could create a better scheme for the PP! The players have no idea where to be on the ice and our team collapses almost every third period. There’s obviously a big problem going on right now.
The past season was the year zero of our rebuild and almost half that team now plays Junior A. But this season is very different, we have a team on paper that is better than Bathurst, Shawinigan, Val-Dor and I would even say Gatineau and Blanville since the holidays. We have very good veterans, a NHL drafted goalie, and an excellent core of young players. We should be performing like Chicoutimi and Victoriaville have. A coach like Yanic Jean always seems to get the best out of his teams but we can't say the same about Dixon.
I have been a fan since year one of the Dogs and I ask seriously if Dixon is the worst coach in franchise history? In 2005 we finished with 38 points and a PP of 14.9%, both at the bottom of the rankings. And coach Larue was fired after that season. We are now on our way to the worst season in franchise history. I cannot understand how Georgie/McCain have not made any changes yet, while in Moncton and Bathurst they both fired their coaches for much less. Something clearly must change if we want to win another memorial cup…
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Post by ysj28 on Mar 2, 2019 10:26:12 GMT -4
We certainly don't have a better team than last year.
The reason they collapse in the third period is because they are the youngest team in the CHL and the majority of the players aren't used to playing this many games in a season, and the third period is when the older teams pick up the pace.. for the most part.
I believe Dixon is at the end of a two year contract - in saying that, I feel that the coaching staff won't be back next year.
It doesn't matter who was coaching this team the past two years, you could have Scotty Bowman behind the bench and they wouldn't have faired much better than they currently are.
They did bring in Pat Conacher this past January to work with the team and the coaches - he is currently with the Vancouver Canucks organization - who knows, maybe if his contract isn't renewed in Utica we find him behind the bench next year.
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Post by berner on Mar 2, 2019 10:44:13 GMT -4
Can someone please explain to me how coach Josh Dixon is still employed? We are on the way to a worse record despite a much better team than last year. In fact we are having the worst season in franchise history, worse than in 05-06, 06-07, 13-14, 17-18! I don't have any bad wishes for Dixon but it is clear that he is not a head coach at this level. We have no clear playing system and the worst PP in the Q by far. I’m sure even a pee-wee coach could create a better scheme for the PP! The players have no idea where to be on the ice and our team collapses almost every third period. There’s obviously a big problem going on right now. The past season was the year zero of our rebuild and almost half that team now plays Junior A. But this season is very different, we have a team on paper that is better than Bathurst, Shawinigan, Val-Dor and I would even say Gatineau and Blanville since the holidays. We have very good veterans, a NHL drafted goalie, and an excellent core of young players. We should be performing like Chicoutimi and Victoriaville have. A coach like Yanic Jean always seems to get the best out of his teams but we can't say the same about Dixon. I have been a fan since year one of the Dogs and I ask seriously if Dixon is the worst coach in franchise history? In 2005 we finished with 38 points and a PP of 14.9%, both at the bottom of the rankings. And coach Larue was fired after that season. We are now on our way to the worst season in franchise history. I cannot understand how Georgie/McCain have not made any changes yet, while in Moncton and Bathurst they both fired their coaches for much less. Something clearly must change if we want to win another memorial cup… Your assessment of the current team is way off in my opinion - they certainly are not as good on paper as you suggest, though the potential to be better in the future is way better for this crew than last year’s team. You may not like Dixon, and with good reason, but to suggest this team should be comparable to the teams you mentioned is far off. |
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Post by schutzthefrontdoor on Mar 2, 2019 10:51:01 GMT -4
I didn't know they had Conacher come in, was it announced anywhere? It makes sense because the team seemed to be playing a lot better in January and February. I don't think the youth is the team's biggest problem but I agree that it could be the cause of all these late game collapses. Let's hope next year goes better!
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Post by redwingjoe on Mar 3, 2019 10:21:22 GMT -4
With all the on paper talent and youth that has been mentioned above, I agree there is a major problem with the coaching staff. we should have expected results like this at the start of the season with so many 16 yr old players. But with the major roles they are playing we should have seen a gradual upward trend in the competitiveness of this team. We are not. There is no way we should be seeing 10-2, 7-3 thrashings every game at this point of the season. What is going to change with this current group to make results better in the 6 months when they will be back here for training camp? Not much if this current group is brought back. We used to be a location players wanted to come to, I'm afraid this is going to change if there are not changes made.
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Post by pinkbeaver on Mar 3, 2019 11:06:23 GMT -4
With all the on paper talent and youth that has been mentioned above, I agree there is a major problem with the coaching staff. we should have expected results like this at the start of the season with so many 16 yr old players. But with the major roles they are playing we should have seen a gradual upward trend in the competitiveness of this team. We are not. There is no way we should be seeing 10-2, 7-3 thrashings every game at this point of the season. What is going to change with this current group to make results better in the 6 months when they will be back here for training camp? Not much if this current group is brought back. We used to be a location players wanted to come to, I'm afraid this is going to change if there are not changes made. You don't think the other teams get better as the season goes along too? you are undervaluing how significant age impacts performance. You have basically a midget team competing in a junior league. |
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Post by gdg25 on Mar 3, 2019 12:09:02 GMT -4
Can someone please explain to me how coach Josh Dixon is still employed? We are on the way to a worse record despite a much better team than last year. In fact we are having the worst season in franchise history, worse than in 05-06, 06-07, 13-14, 17-18! I don't have any bad wishes for Dixon but it is clear that he is not a head coach at this level. We have no clear playing system and the worst PP in the Q by far. I’m sure even a pee-wee coach could create a better scheme for the PP! The players have no idea where to be on the ice and our team collapses almost every third period. There’s obviously a big problem going on right now. The past season was the year zero of our rebuild and almost half that team now plays Junior A. But this season is very different, we have a team on paper that is better than Bathurst, Shawinigan, Val-Dor and I would even say Gatineau and Blanville since the holidays. We have very good veterans, a NHL drafted goalie, and an excellent core of young players. We should be performing like Chicoutimi and Victoriaville have. A coach like Yanic Jean always seems to get the best out of his teams but we can't say the same about Dixon. I have been a fan since year one of the Dogs and I ask seriously if Dixon is the worst coach in franchise history? In 2005 we finished with 38 points and a PP of 14.9%, both at the bottom of the rankings. And coach Larue was fired after that season. We are now on our way to the worst season in franchise history. I cannot understand how Georgie/McCain have not made any changes yet, while in Moncton and Bathurst they both fired their coaches for much less. Something clearly must change if we want to win another memorial cup… Why would they fire him now or even back in December. Maybe if we had more fans show up they could make those moves but with 2000 people showing up your loosing money so paying a coach to not coach here makes zero sense in a rebuild year. Also what good coach wants to come coach a bottom feeder? And what good coaches are Available mid season? Trust the process we’re tied for like 4th for most championships in q history . We do it right in Saint John . Don’t like the down years jump ship else where, cause we’ll add 2 more president cup banners and a memer in the next 4 years. These kids are 16 use to playing 36 games a year , where are kids have played all year plus u17, they are tired wore down this is a learning year. Wait till next year in their draft year they will be firing on all cylinders. |
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Post by j3e4 on Mar 3, 2019 15:04:14 GMT -4
Yeah the youngest team in the CHL is clearly better on paper than a team that had Veleno, Safin, Salda, Pare, Hardie, Gursoy, Webster, and Reginato for all or part of the season.
Although comparing this year's team to last year's team is kind of a moot point in this context since Dixon coached that team too.
I remember when the sky was falling in 2006, 2007, 2013, and 2014 too.
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Post by berner on Mar 3, 2019 16:33:26 GMT -4
With all the on paper talent and youth that has been mentioned above, I agree there is a major problem with the coaching staff. we should have expected results like this at the start of the season with so many 16 yr old players. But with the major roles they are playing we should have seen a gradual upward trend in the competitiveness of this team. We are not. There is no way we should be seeing 10-2, 7-3 thrashings every game at this point of the season. What is going to change with this current group to make results better in the 6 months when they will be back here for training camp? Not much if this current group is brought back. We used to be a location players wanted to come to, I'm afraid this is going to change if there are not changes made. What’s going to change in 6 months? All these 16 year olds will be 17 years old, with an entire Q season worth of experience. Meanwhile their opposition will still be 18-19 years old. That’s a huge difference. This team will be dominant but it takes time. A little patience goes a long way, thankfully the administration knows how to build a winner. |
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Post by yoyomamajoe on Mar 3, 2019 22:20:58 GMT -4
Next year is just going to be the same or marginally better unless we bring in reinforcements. We have 1 19y that might be worth bringing back as a 20 (2 if you count the goalie, but he doesn't count towards the 3 20).
We only have one 18y worth bringing back as 19, maybe 2 if the player gets healthy.
Of the current 17y there are really only two worth keeping, but one needs to be traded to make space for a new 16/17 euro.
The rest, next year, are marginal 18y and a huge group of 17y and a few new 16y olds.
Need some leadership on this team.
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Post by berner on Mar 3, 2019 23:55:00 GMT -4
Next year is just going to be the same or marginally better unless we bring in reinforcements. We have 1 19y that might be worth bringing back as a 20 (2 if you count the goalie, but he doesn't count towards the 3 20). We only have one 18y worth bringing back as 19, maybe 2 if the player gets healthy. Of the current 17y there are really only two worth keeping, but one needs to be traded to make space for a new 16/17 euro. The rest, next year, are marginal 18y and a huge group of 17y and a few new 16y olds. Need some leadership on this team. I’d be willing to bet that next year at this time we won’t be sitting in 17th place. How do you figure it’ll be more of the same, when next year all our high end 16 year old rookies will be 17 with a year of experience under their belts? |
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Post by j3e4 on Mar 4, 2019 0:45:24 GMT -4
Rumour is that we'll be getting two 20s next year, one from Drummondville and one from Baie Comeau.
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Post by pinkbeaver on Mar 4, 2019 8:06:45 GMT -4
Next year is just going to be the same or marginally better unless we bring in reinforcements. We have 1 19y that might be worth bringing back as a 20 (2 if you count the goalie, but he doesn't count towards the 3 20). We only have one 18y worth bringing back as 19, maybe 2 if the player gets healthy. Of the current 17y there are really only two worth keeping, but one needs to be traded to make space for a new 16/17 euro. The rest, next year, are marginal 18y and a huge group of 17y and a few new 16y olds. Need some leadership on this team. Next year the line up could look something like this:
Deakin-Poot - Lawrence - Cajkovic New 20 - Burns - Prikryl/New Euro? Stairs - Drover - Plamondon White - Jacob - Macintosh/Williams?/Free Agent?/1st round pick?/
Poirier - New 20 Villeneuve - Desroches 1st or 2nd round pick - Sibley/Musico/Free Agent
Bouthillier Da Silva/Savoie
I would be surprised if this team is not middle of the pack next year.
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Post by yoyomamajoe on Mar 4, 2019 10:06:00 GMT -4
Next year is just going to be the same or marginally better unless we bring in reinforcements. We have 1 19y that might be worth bringing back as a 20 (2 if you count the goalie, but he doesn't count towards the 3 20). We only have one 18y worth bringing back as 19, maybe 2 if the player gets healthy. Of the current 17y there are really only two worth keeping, but one needs to be traded to make space for a new 16/17 euro. The rest, next year, are marginal 18y and a huge group of 17y and a few new 16y olds. Need some leadership on this team. I’d be willing to bet that next year at this time we won’t be sitting in 17th place. How do you figure it’ll be more of the same, when next year all our high end 16 year old rookies will be 17 with a year of experience under their belts? The reason I said that is because next year we'll be lining up 8 to 10 17y that didn't get much development this year so without any outside reinforcements (20y and 19y) we will only be marginally better. Maybe not in 17th but we'll still get peppered. Maybe I'm a little too pessimistic but I guess I expected a little more progress this season Btw what was wrong with White? Was dressed but didn't play a shift yesterday. |
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Post by Jack Bauer on Mar 4, 2019 11:43:19 GMT -4
I’d be willing to bet that next year at this time we won’t be sitting in 17th place. How do you figure it’ll be more of the same, when next year all our high end 16 year old rookies will be 17 with a year of experience under their belts? The reason I said that is because next year we'll be lining up 8 to 10 17y that didn't get much development this year so without any outside reinforcements (20y and 19y) we will only be marginally better. Maybe not in 17th but we'll still get peppered. Maybe I'm a little too pessimistic but I guess I expected a little more progress this season Btw what was wrong with White? Was dressed but didn't play a shift yesterday. I don't think some of you really understood how deep you traded for 2017 and the downside of having a lineup with almost no returning players. Last year was almost year 0 for you and the 2018 draft was where the rebuild started so this year should have been another down one unless you managed to find a lot of cheap vets. Next year you're still very young. Your core will still only be 17/18 and be in a division with 3-4 teams that for the first half anyway should be head and shoulders above you experience wise. Even the absolute best 16yr olds don't always have an easy time adjusting to the Q. Give your guys the proper time and they should be fine...especially with the amount of higher end 16yr olds you have in the system. But it still might be another full year until you really start seeing the potential result in some on ice entertainment. |
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