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Post by Briwhel on Apr 19, 2019 5:47:41 GMT -4
Imo, getting two good 20s, a solid 19 D and a late 1st would be more cost effective. The player we could get at 14-18 could be the player we would risk taking at 6-7. Still, three 1st rd in 2020 is not in line with our development so upgrading for 2019 1st rd would only make sense. Question is what would it cost to upgrade to 2019? That could be 2 top 5 picks and our pick. In a perfect world, we keep the better picks and start trying to acquire 2022 1sts (when most of the current core graduates) |
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Post by Briwhel on Apr 19, 2019 5:52:58 GMT -4
Can someone give us a rundown on Joshua Roy? Offensive dynamo, will likely be on our pp at 16 (that's his strongest part of his game). He's considered to be below Lafreniere for potential but there are debates as to how much below (if he works hard, his game could adapt as well if not better). According to hp, the area he can improve is his 5 on 5 play. He's not always fully engaged. |
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Post by Renegade on Apr 19, 2019 8:34:45 GMT -4
How Pissed are you if you're a Wildcats fan......😂😂😂 I know we all would be if the roles were reversed. Seeing SJ's only ball being picked first must have really sucked for more reasons than 1. Not only did that mean that their closest rivals get the top pick instead of them, but it left them with the worst possible odds that they could have had for #2, which of course resulted in them dropping to #3. At least the pick wasn't their own and they didn't have to suffer through a miserable season. That probably makes it hurt a little less than it otherwise would have. From a Titan fan perspective, it takes the sting out a little knowing that our pick turned out to be a number #3 instead of a #1...only a little bit though... |
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Post by gdg25 on Apr 19, 2019 10:21:45 GMT -4
Imo, getting two good 20s, a solid 19 D and a late 1st would be more cost effective. The player we could get at 14-18 could be the player we would risk taking at 6-7. The Sea Dogs already have 2 good 20s with Deakin-Poot and Bouthillier. From what I hear, 2 more 20s are already bought and paid for as long as D'Orio is back in the Q next year. 3 1sts in 2020 is very interesting! All 3 seems like trade bait. I don’t think dealing-poot will be back , we need a couple older guys who can shoulder the load an guys who can get us 25-30 goals 70 points. If we can add two good 20’s from BC and Drummondville there will be no room for NDP , yes he made huge strides this year but just isn’t good enough for this young team. Unless we can add an impact 18-19 year old forward. Potential forward group looks like this Drover Roy stairs Lawrence burns Cajkovic New 20, New 20, new euro Wilson, white,Plamondon, Macintosh , plus whoever else we grab in the 2nd rd . We do need to add a couple older Dmen IMO Defenceman Poirier Villeneuve DesRoches Sibley In nets Bouthillier Savoie/Da Silva This year could turn out to be turning some heads |
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Post by juliansteed on Apr 19, 2019 13:12:38 GMT -4
The Sea Dogs already have 2 good 20s with Deakin-Poot and Bouthillier. From what I hear, 2 more 20s are already bought and paid for as long as D'Orio is back in the Q next year. 3 1sts in 2020 is very interesting! All 3 seems like trade bait. I don’t think dealing-poot will be back , we need a couple older guys who can shoulder the load an guys who can get us 25-30 goals 70 points. If we can add two good 20’s from BC and Drummondville there will be no room for NDP , yes he made huge strides this year but just isn’t good enough for this young team. Unless we can add an impact 18-19 year old forward. Potential forward group looks like this Drover Roy stairs Lawrence burns Cajkovic New 20, New 20, new euro Wilson, white,Plamondon, Macintosh , plus whoever else we grab in the 2nd rd . We do need to add a couple older Dmen IMO Defenceman Poirier Villeneuve DesRoches Sibley In nets Bouthillier Savoie/Da Silva This year could turn out to be turning some heads I'm not so sure NDP is back next season either but my point is that I wouldn't want to spend a 1st to upgrade that 20 spot in a season that we are not expected to contend. He's good enough that if there are no better options out there that could be acquired for less than a 1st, I'd rather keep him. It sounds like two 20s might already be coming as futures in deals that were made during the last trade period. If that is the case then so be it, but I'd want to flip one of those guys for fair value and then acquire a 20 year old d-man. We won't need a 2-way stud that can QB the power play. What we need is a Bailey Webster type guy, which shouldn't cost a 1st. I would however be willing to spend a 1st on a 19-year old that is expected to be back the following season as a 20 the following season. The Sea Dogs don't really have much in the way of 2000 born players that will be back as 20s in a year that I think they'll want to be soft contenders. |
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Post by juliansteed on Apr 19, 2019 13:25:43 GMT -4
I know we all would be if the roles were reversed. Seeing SJ's only ball being picked first must have really sucked for more reasons than 1. Not only did that mean that their closest rivals get the top pick instead of them, but it left them with the worst possible odds that they could have had for #2, which of course resulted in them dropping to #3. At least the pick wasn't their own and they didn't have to suffer through a miserable season. That probably makes it hurt a little less than it otherwise would have. From a Titan fan perspective, it takes the sting out a little knowing that our pick turned out to be a number #3 instead of a #1...only a little bit though... I'd think that a Memorial Cup won with the player acquired for that pick would also take some of the sting away.  |
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Post by Briwhel on Apr 20, 2019 12:53:02 GMT -4
I don’t think dealing-poot will be back , we need a couple older guys who can shoulder the load an guys who can get us 25-30 goals 70 points. If we can add two good 20’s from BC and Drummondville there will be no room for NDP , yes he made huge strides this year but just isn’t good enough for this young team. Unless we can add an impact 18-19 year old forward. Potential forward group looks like this Drover Roy stairs Lawrence burns Cajkovic New 20, New 20, new euro Wilson, white,Plamondon, Macintosh , plus whoever else we grab in the 2nd rd . We do need to add a couple older Dmen IMO Defenceman Poirier Villeneuve DesRoches Sibley In nets Bouthillier Savoie/Da Silva This year could turn out to be turning some heads I'm not so sure NDP is back next season either but my point is that I wouldn't want to spend a 1st to upgrade that 20 spot in a season that we are not expected to contend. He's good enough that if there are no better options out there that could be acquired for less than a 1st, I'd rather keep him. It sounds like two 20s might already be coming as futures in deals that were made during the last trade period. If that is the case then so be it, but I'd want to flip one of those guys for fair value and then acquire a 20 year old d-man. We won't need a 2-way stud that can QB the power play. What we need is a Bailey Webster type guy, which shouldn't cost a 1st. I would however be willing to spend a 1st on a 19-year old that is expected to be back the following season as a 20 the following season. The Sea Dogs don't really have much in the way of 2000 born players that will be back as 20s in a year that I think they'll want to be soft contenders. Given that Georgie is on record saying that he wants two 20 year old forwards, I would say that the compensation on D'Orio will probably be a depth 19 year-old D (someone who definitely steps into our top 5, but isn't necessarily a number 1). In terms of the 20s, we will hopefully get ourselves the equivalent of a Hoffman and Petersen. The point of this is that with 2 top 20s, we can take a lot of the pressure off the younger guys and let them have fun. We spent this season teaching them how tough the league can be, now it is time to show them the fun they can have. IMO, we could sport a lineup line (if Williams comes): Cajkovic - Lawrence - 20 Plamondon - Drover - 20 Euro - Burns - Williams Stairs - 1st overall - Jacob/White/MacIntosh/Wilson/Belisle/O'Neill/everyone else Sibley - Villeneuve Poirier - Des Roches 19 - Musico/Kakouras/Gallant/everyone else Bouthillier everyone else The above lineup illustrates that at least a few players will either be moved or simply will not make the team. |
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Post by Slap Shooter on Apr 20, 2019 16:13:44 GMT -4
The Wifi connection down here at the resort in Punta Cana sucks. Great to hear the Dogs beat all odds and got the first overall pick.
So what should we do? Is Josh Roy as good as they say or should they make a trade with Val Dor and take Robidas at number two and get Val Dors 2nd pick in the first round as well. If Val for would go for it that is.
I couldn't find exactly where VDs second pick was due to the flakey wifi but I think they have #2 and # 6. Question take Roy at #1 or take Robidas at 2 and BPA at # 6?
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Post by berner on Apr 20, 2019 16:41:52 GMT -4
The Wifi connection down here at the resort in Punta Cana sucks. Great to hear the Dogs beat all odds and got the first overall pick. So what should we do? Is Josh Roy as good as they say or should they make a trade with Val Dor and take Robidas at number two and get Val Dors 2nd pick in the first round as well. If Val for would go for it that is. I couldn't find exactly where VDs second pick was due to the flakey wifi but I think they have #2 and # 6. Question take Roy at #1 or take Robidas at 2 and BPA at # 6? No question in my mind what the Dogs should do - welcome Joshua Roy to Saint John as the #1 overall pick at the draft. |
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Post by Briwhel on Apr 20, 2019 17:08:44 GMT -4
The Wifi connection down here at the resort in Punta Cana sucks. Great to hear the Dogs beat all odds and got the first overall pick. So what should we do? Is Josh Roy as good as they say or should they make a trade with Val Dor and take Robidas at number two and get Val Dors 2nd pick in the first round as well. If Val for would go for it that is. I couldn't find exactly where VDs second pick was due to the flakey wifi but I think they have #2 and # 6. Question take Roy at #1 or take Robidas at 2 and BPA at # 6? I don't think either side makes that deal. For us, drafting 1 means we get our guy with the 6th pick looking like it is in the 3rd tier of players due to ncaa guys. For Val D'Or, the gap between 1 and 2 is shrinking enough to make it silly to give us 6 (which they might still trade). Our position might change if we could get a guarantee from Reynolds or Bolduc. |
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Post by dogsfan1978 on Apr 20, 2019 17:58:54 GMT -4
You’ve gotta think that the team we are building here in SJ has to look pretty attractive to these kids that are planning on going the ncaa route. The fact that our team is going to be chalked-full of high-end talent will receive a lot of attention and when you are a 16 or 17-year-old kid looking to make it to the NHL that has to be a huge incentive one with think. I believe that at the end of the day you draft the best player available and if you have too many assets at one position and need to fill another then you trade the assets versus trying to trade a draft pick. Damn I’m excited for next year already.....
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Post by Briwhel on Apr 20, 2019 19:07:00 GMT -4
You’ve gotta think that the team we are building here in SJ has to look pretty attractive to these kids that are planning on going the ncaa route. The fact that our team is going to be chalked-full of high-end talent will receive a lot of attention and when you are a 16 or 17-year-old kid looking to make it to the NHL that has to be a huge incentive one with think. I believe that at the end of the day you draft the best player available and if you have too many assets at one position and need to fill another then you trade the assets versus trying to trade a draft pick. Damn I’m excited for next year already..... Add 2 kickass 20s and a top Euro and we will be 4 lines deep. |
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Post by dogsfan1978 on Apr 20, 2019 19:55:09 GMT -4
You’ve gotta think that the team we are building here in SJ has to look pretty attractive to these kids that are planning on going the ncaa route. The fact that our team is going to be chalked-full of high-end talent will receive a lot of attention and when you are a 16 or 17-year-old kid looking to make it to the NHL that has to be a huge incentive one with think. I believe that at the end of the day you draft the best player available and if you have too many assets at one position and need to fill another then you trade the assets versus trying to trade a draft pick. Damn I’m excited for next year already..... Add 2 kickass 20s and a top Euro and we will be 4 lines deep. I keep forgetting about the 20’s coming 😍😍😍😍 |
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Post by seadogs10 on Apr 20, 2019 21:17:49 GMT -4
If anyone knows the rumoured trades at the draft for players coming in and whats going out can you PM me the details, please!
Thanks
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Post by WhiteTyAffair on Apr 21, 2019 9:46:35 GMT -4
If anyone knows the rumoured trades at the draft for players coming in and whats going out can you PM me the details, please! Thanks If Jonathan Aspirot doesn't sign a pro deal and sticks with Moncton, I could see Christian Huntley dealt to Saint John. |
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