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Post by Captain Obvious on Oct 2, 2019 10:06:10 GMT -4
Agree on Seitz and Huntley, but I think you are being really hard on Cyr calling him "0.5" of an overage slot. Cyr has been a point per game player the last two years and doesnt play on the first power play unit. He was terrific in the playoffs and wins a ton of face-offs. He's no Jeremy McKenna but I think he would still be one of the better overagers in the league. Yeah, Cyr is good but not great. Above average OA I would say. Losing McKenna and Aspirot whom both would have been among the top 5-6 OA's really hurts. i think a smart GM would reevaluate his plan after that. |
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Post by bois on Oct 2, 2019 10:20:25 GMT -4
Agree on Seitz and Huntley, but I think you are being really hard on Cyr calling him "0.5" of an overage slot. Cyr has been a point per game player the last two years and doesnt play on the first power play unit. He was terrific in the playoffs and wins a ton of face-offs. He's no Jeremy McKenna but I think he would still be one of the better overagers in the league. Steve didn't say .5 of an overager. He said .5 of an impact overager. I think that's actually a fair statement. I'd call Gentile that here in CB. He's not good enough to carry anything on his own. But good enough to play with the high end guy who can finish and do other things. But the point is that you are not going to build a winner around those players on their own. Which is a reason they're still in junior as overagers. Point totals and impact are not necessarily the same things. reality of the game nowadays.... if you have 2 above average overagers.... conider yourself lucky the group of guys that somehow manage to play at 20 every year in this league just gets worse and worse when it comes to impact |
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Post by SteveUL on Oct 2, 2019 11:18:29 GMT -4
Agree on Seitz and Huntley, but I think you are being really hard on Cyr calling him "0.5" of an overage slot. Cyr has been a point per game player the last two years and doesnt play on the first power play unit. He was terrific in the playoffs and wins a ton of face-offs. He's no Jeremy McKenna but I think he would still be one of the better overagers in the league. I said that out of the three OA slots, we have about 0.5 impact where 3.0 would be ideal. I didn't say that Cyr was 0.5 of an OA. I value everything that Cyr brings to the table but he isn't a game breaker ... not an impact player. He is a very good complimentary guy that can be used in any situation and was always in our plans as an OA this year. But if he doesn't have quality linemates to play with he is half of the player he can be ... like anybody would be I guess. Cyr can be an impact player in the right situation, but right now he is not in that situation. This past weekend he was very ineffective other than his SO winner ... but he had a solid game on opening night in PEI. |
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Post by pinkbeaver on Oct 2, 2019 14:15:30 GMT -4
Agree on Seitz and Huntley, but I think you are being really hard on Cyr calling him "0.5" of an overage slot. Cyr has been a point per game player the last two years and doesnt play on the first power play unit. He was terrific in the playoffs and wins a ton of face-offs. He's no Jeremy McKenna but I think he would still be one of the better overagers in the league. I said that out of the three OA slots, we have about 0.5 impact where 3.0 would be ideal. I didn't say that Cyr was 0.5 of an OA. I value everything that Cyr brings to the table but he isn't a game breaker ... not an impact player. He is a very good complimentary guy that can be used in any situation and was always in our plans as an OA this year. But if he doesn't have quality linemates to play with he is half of the player he can be ... like anybody would be I guess. Cyr can be an impact player in the right situation, but right now he is not in that situation. This past weekend he was very ineffective other than his SO winner ... but he had a solid game on opening night in PEI. Okay, I misread and apologize. I can get behind the "0.5 of an impact" point. When it comes down to it, the cats got burned building around there 20 YO's. Truthfully I thought both would be returned so its hard to fault the organization too much without being a hypocrite. A couple posters have preached building around a 19 YO Pelletier, which appears to be the better move in hindsight. theres always a small chance he isnt returned next year year either. Management has really put themselves in a corner. They either fire all their bullets at this year and have nothing left when the dust settles.... or wave the white flag and surrender to another rebuild with nothing to show for it. |
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Post by Captain Obvious on Oct 2, 2019 14:27:27 GMT -4
I said that out of the three OA slots, we have about 0.5 impact where 3.0 would be ideal. I didn't say that Cyr was 0.5 of an OA. I value everything that Cyr brings to the table but he isn't a game breaker ... not an impact player. He is a very good complimentary guy that can be used in any situation and was always in our plans as an OA this year. But if he doesn't have quality linemates to play with he is half of the player he can be ... like anybody would be I guess. Cyr can be an impact player in the right situation, but right now he is not in that situation. This past weekend he was very ineffective other than his SO winner ... but he had a solid game on opening night in PEI. Okay, I misread and apologize. I can get behind the "0.5 of an impact" point. When it comes down to it, the cats got burned building around there 20 YO's. Truthfully I thought both would be returned so its hard to fault the organization too much without being a hypocrite. A couple posters have preached building around a 19 YO Pelletier, which appears to be the better move in hindsight. theres always a small chance he isnt returned next year year either. Management has really put themselves in a corner. They either fire all their bullets at this year and have nothing left when the dust settles.... or wave the white flag and surrender to another rebuild with nothing to show for it. the problem is, they have been half assed buying every year. They keep wasting good picks/young players on guys that don’t move the needs…Huntley Anttalainen, Giguere etc No matter what you’re doing, losing McKenna and Aspirot will hurt, but if you have all your picks and you develop young players, you at least have other options via trade or within. |
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Post by mav on Oct 2, 2019 15:00:18 GMT -4
From the french board...take it for what its worth, but seems to me he is usually pretty reliable.
Aujourd'hui à 14:14
par Marc052
De source sûres, les chances de Jeremy McKenna de revenir à Moncton seraient plus élevées que l'on pense. Ce n'est pas encore sur à 100%, mais les chances sont plus grandes. Si McKenna ne revient pas, Moncton pourrait se tourner vers l'Outaouais.
For those who cant get the french it basically says that there is a strong chance Mckenna comes back. He says he hears it from a good source...etc..
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Post by robichaud on Oct 2, 2019 15:11:51 GMT -4
From the french board...take it for what its worth, but seems to me he is usually pretty reliable. Aujourd'hui à 14:14 par Marc052 De source sûres, les chances de Jeremy McKenna de revenir à Moncton seraient plus élevées que l'on pense. Ce n'est pas encore sur à 100%, mais les chances sont plus grandes. Si McKenna ne revient pas, Moncton pourrait se tourner vers l'Outaouais. For those who cant get the french it basically says that there is a strong chance Mckenna comes back. He says he hears it from a good source...etc.. Actually, it says that chances are higher than what is generally expected. So since nobody sees him coming back, anything will be more than nothing  Just saying... But it would be great if he did come back with the Cats. |
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Post by mav on Oct 2, 2019 15:19:07 GMT -4
From the french board...take it for what its worth, but seems to me he is usually pretty reliable. Aujourd'hui à 14:14 par Marc052 De source sûres, les chances de Jeremy McKenna de revenir à Moncton seraient plus élevées que l'on pense. Ce n'est pas encore sur à 100%, mais les chances sont plus grandes. Si McKenna ne revient pas, Moncton pourrait se tourner vers l'Outaouais. For those who cant get the french it basically says that there is a strong chance Mckenna comes back. He says he hears it from a good source...etc.. Actually, it says that chances are higher than what is generally expected. So since nobody sees him coming back, anything will be more than nothing Just saying... But it would be great if he did come back with the Cats. Call it wishful thinking on my part then... |
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Post by WhiteTyAffair on Oct 2, 2019 15:33:48 GMT -4
From the french board...take it for what its worth, but seems to me he is usually pretty reliable. Aujourd'hui à 14:14 par Marc052 De source sûres, les chances de Jeremy McKenna de revenir à Moncton seraient plus élevées que l'on pense. Ce n'est pas encore sur à 100%, mais les chances sont plus grandes. Si McKenna ne revient pas, Moncton pourrait se tourner vers l'Outaouais. For those who cant get the french it basically says that there is a strong chance Mckenna comes back. He says he hears it from a good source...etc.. I was told he got cut from Stockton which is why the Joly trade is on hold. Nothing from the Stockton Heat organization as of yet. |
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Post by SteveUL on Oct 2, 2019 15:34:14 GMT -4
From the french board...take it for what its worth, but seems to me he is usually pretty reliable. Aujourd'hui à 14:14 par Marc052 De source sûres, les chances de Jeremy McKenna de revenir à Moncton seraient plus élevées que l'on pense. Ce n'est pas encore sur à 100%, mais les chances sont plus grandes. Si McKenna ne revient pas, Moncton pourrait se tourner vers l'Outaouais. For those who cant get the french it basically says that there is a strong chance Mckenna comes back. He says he hears it from a good source...etc.. Actually, it says that chances are higher than what is generally expected. So since nobody sees him coming back, anything will be more than nothing Just saying... But it would be great if he did come back with the Cats. Hmmm ... I have been saying that I think he will be back ... so not "nobody". Maybe Irving made him an offer payable to him after he leaves the Q, so none of the Q's business ...  |
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Post by Captain Obvious on Oct 2, 2019 15:35:00 GMT -4
From the french board...take it for what its worth, but seems to me he is usually pretty reliable. Aujourd'hui à 14:14 par Marc052 De source sûres, les chances de Jeremy McKenna de revenir à Moncton seraient plus élevées que l'on pense. Ce n'est pas encore sur à 100%, mais les chances sont plus grandes. Si McKenna ne revient pas, Moncton pourrait se tourner vers l'Outaouais. For those who cant get the french it basically says that there is a strong chance Mckenna comes back. He says he hears it from a good source...etc.. I was told he got cut from Stockton which is why the Joly trade is on hold. Nothing from the Stockton Heat organization as of yet. My guess is, Calgary wants him ECHL and the Cats are trying to lure him back. |
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Post by robichaud on Oct 2, 2019 15:46:07 GMT -4
Actually, it says that chances are higher than what is generally expected. So since nobody sees him coming back, anything will be more than nothing Just saying... But it would be great if he did come back with the Cats. Hmmm ... I have been saying that I think he will be back ... so not "nobody". Maybe Irving made him an offer payable to him after he leaves the Q, so none of the Q's business ... Right! So almost nobody Sorry Steve! |
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Post by Doug Glatt on Oct 2, 2019 15:59:01 GMT -4
We should find out by tomorrow. Final rosters are to be submitted by this Thursday.
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Post by jimmy on Oct 2, 2019 17:16:42 GMT -4
We should find out by tomorrow. Final rosters are to be submitted by this Thursday. Do you mean AHL final rosters? |
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Post by Doug Glatt on Oct 2, 2019 19:49:31 GMT -4
We should find out by tomorrow. Final rosters are to be submitted by this Thursday. Do you mean AHL final rosters? Yes. Final rosters are due tomorrow for the AHL. Hopefully we get news that McKenna is coming back. |
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