mav
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Post by mav on Jan 6, 2020 14:12:23 GMT -4
and Boudrias deal also...
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Post by lirette on Jan 6, 2020 14:13:28 GMT -4
I have no issue with the trades the Cats made this year, my only deception is that they didn’t manage assets better since the 16-17 scorched earth rebuild. They will end up with a near bare cupboard heading into next year after all the futures, had they not wasted a bunch of assets on short term moves and the A.MacDonald “project” they would be in a good position for a 3-4 year rebuild back to contender, now they are looking at 5 years. It will be absolutely critical to move ZL for a Veleno type return next christmas to bring back some high end assets (assuming that hes not a future). I sure hope they are putting a major focus on the euro draft as well as there won't be any other opportunity to add high end skill to the team. |
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Post by lirette on Jan 6, 2020 14:17:35 GMT -4
McIsaac deal is posted now
McIsaac, Jared
(2000-03-27)
MONCTON
RD_3, 2020 (BAT)
RD_5, 2021
RD_1, 2022
RD_3, 2022
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mav
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Post by mav on Jan 6, 2020 14:17:47 GMT -4
MacIsaac to the Cats!!!
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Post by Captain Obvious on Jan 6, 2020 14:23:19 GMT -4
I know this will change in June, but right now they only have ONE top 3 round pick in the next three drafts, a 2021 3rd rounder.
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Post by Arnold Slick on Jan 6, 2020 14:28:27 GMT -4
I have no issue with the trades the Cats made this year, my only deception is that they didn’t manage assets better since the 16-17 scorched earth rebuild. They will end up with a near bare cupboard heading into next year after all the futures, had they not wasted a bunch of assets on short term moves and the A.MacDonald “project” they would be in a good position for a 3-4 year rebuild back to contender, now they are looking at 5 years. Yup pretty much. Send a thank you card to Irving. Now that the dust has settled I think the Cats have the best team in the Q. Is it good enough that they can survive having to beat two of Chicoutimi, Rimouski and CB just to get to the Final while Sherbrooke will basically have a bye (assuming they end up 1st overall)? That's what we'll find out. |
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Post by Arnold Slick on Jan 6, 2020 14:31:17 GMT -4
I have no issue with the trades the Cats made this year, my only deception is that they didn’t manage assets better since the 16-17 scorched earth rebuild. They will end up with a near bare cupboard heading into next year after all the futures, had they not wasted a bunch of assets on short term moves and the A.MacDonald “project” they would be in a good position for a 3-4 year rebuild back to contender, now they are looking at 5 years. It will be absolutely critical to move ZL for a Veleno type return next christmas to bring back some high end assets (assuming that hes not a future). I sure hope they are putting a major focus on the euro draft as well as there won't be any other opportunity to add high end skill to the team. I hope they were paying attention to what Drummondville did this year. Using their late picks to add a couple pretty good players from a non-traditional country like Austria. That's best case scenario considering where the Cats will be picking. |
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Post by SteveUL on Jan 6, 2020 14:31:51 GMT -4
I have no issue with the trades the Cats made this year, my only deception is that they didn’t manage assets better since the 16-17 scorched earth rebuild. They will end up with a near bare cupboard heading into next year after all the futures, had they not wasted a bunch of assets on short term moves and the A.MacDonald “project” they would be in a good position for a 3-4 year rebuild back to contender, now they are looking at 5 years. Yup pretty much. Send a thank you card to Irving. Now that the dust has settled I think the Cats have the best team in the Q. Is it good enough that they can survive having to beat two of Chicoutimi, Rimouski and CB just to get to the Final while Sherbrooke will basically have a bye (assuming they end up 1st overall)? That's what we'll find out. They key is to overtake Chicoutimi now ... I doubt we can catch Sherbrooke. No more losing allowed ... time to go on a 30 game run. |
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Post by pinkbeaver on Jan 6, 2020 14:33:33 GMT -4
I have no issue with the trades the Cats made this year, my only deception is that they didn’t manage assets better since the 16-17 scorched earth rebuild. They will end up with a near bare cupboard heading into next year after all the futures, had they not wasted a bunch of assets on short term moves and the A.MacDonald “project” they would be in a good position for a 3-4 year rebuild back to contender, now they are looking at 5 years. It will be absolutely critical to move ZL for a Veleno type return next christmas to bring back some high end assets (assuming that hes not a future). I sure hope they are putting a major focus on the euro draft as well as there won't be any other opportunity to add high end skill to the team. Retaining the 2021, 2022 1sts & ZL. I'd say the cupboards are looking pretty good given the players Moncton added. We can certainly grumble about trades like Giguere, MacDonald, Huntley, Sylvestre if we want to but nobody has a Chrystal ball to predict the future. Giguere didn't work out and was a bad trade. Huntley has been serviceable. Sylvestre helped get the team to 7 last year against Halifax and made for a solid playoff run. Yeah it didn't help with this years team but it w Overpayment sure, but MacDonald projected to be a key player in this years team. Bellamy ended up being a good deal in hindsight. Turned into Desnoyers. Unless your Rouyn its hard to steer the ship in the right direction 100% of the time. Management has done an excellent job the last few years (including Shannon's last year). Start with the Drafting of Cyr, McKenna, Aspirot. The recruitment of Khovanov. Hitting on all of their high picks in 2017,18,19. Spence probably the most savy of the picks. Getting Rodrigue early. Adding a 19 YO high end euro D. Management has done an excellent job. not much to complain about IMO |
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Post by Captain Obvious on Jan 6, 2020 14:36:41 GMT -4
I have no issue with the trades the Cats made this year, my only deception is that they didn’t manage assets better since the 16-17 scorched earth rebuild. They will end up with a near bare cupboard heading into next year after all the futures, had they not wasted a bunch of assets on short term moves and the A.MacDonald “project” they would be in a good position for a 3-4 year rebuild back to contender, now they are looking at 5 years. Yup pretty much. Send a thank you card to Irving. Now that the dust has settled I think the Cats have the best team in the Q. Is it good enough that they can survive having to beat two of Chicoutimi, Rimouski and CB just to get to the Final while Sherbrooke will basically have a bye (assuming they end up 1st overall)? That's what we'll find out. Chicoutimi scares me, Rimouski, I think even round 1 will take a bite out of them unless they get a real easy matchup, they are solid on D but reliant on a rookie QB, they are top heavy up front with a 16 year old on the 2nd line. 3rd line they are not on par with the other 3 or 4 contenders. I can't see Rimouski going 4 playoff rounds unless they get red hot and have no key injuries. they are young and not super deep, two things that make it hard in April/May. |
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Post by hockeylaw on Jan 6, 2020 14:39:35 GMT -4
It will be absolutely critical to move ZL for a Veleno type return next christmas to bring back some high end assets (assuming that hes not a future). I sure hope they are putting a major focus on the euro draft as well as there won't be any other opportunity to add high end skill to the team. Retaining the 2021, 2022 1sts & ZL. I'd say the cupboards are looking pretty good given the players Moncton added. We can certainly grumble about trades like Giguere, MacDonald, Huntley, Sylvestre if we want to but nobody has a Chrystal ball to predict the future. Giguere didn't work out and was a bad trade. Huntley has been serviceable. Sylvestre helped get the team to 7 last year against Halifax and made for a solid playoff run. Yeah it didn't help with this years team but it w Overpayment sure, but MacDonald projected to be a key player in this years team. Bellamy ended up being a good deal in hindsight. Turned into Desnoyers. Unless your Rouyn its hard to steer the ship in the right direction 100% of the time. Management has done an excellent job the last few years (including Shannon's last year). Start with the Drafting of Cyr, McKenna, Aspirot. The recruitment of Khovanov. Hitting on all of their high picks in 2017,18,19. Spence probably the most savy of the picks. Getting Rodrigue early. Adding a 19 YO high end euro D. Management has done an excellent job. not much to complain about IMO Isn't the 1st 2021 gone in the trade for Groulx ? |
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Post by Captain Obvious on Jan 6, 2020 14:45:22 GMT -4
It will be absolutely critical to move ZL for a Veleno type return next christmas to bring back some high end assets (assuming that hes not a future). I sure hope they are putting a major focus on the euro draft as well as there won't be any other opportunity to add high end skill to the team. Retaining the 2021, 2022 1sts & ZL. I'd say the cupboards are looking pretty good given the players Moncton added. We can certainly grumble about trades like Giguere, MacDonald, Huntley, Sylvestre if we want to but nobody has a Chrystal ball to predict the future. Giguere didn't work out and was a bad trade. Huntley has been serviceable. Sylvestre helped get the team to 7 last year against Halifax and made for a solid playoff run. Yeah it didn't help with this years team but it w Overpayment sure, but MacDonald projected to be a key player in this years team. Bellamy ended up being a good deal in hindsight. Turned into Desnoyers. Unless your Rouyn its hard to steer the ship in the right direction 100% of the time. Management has done an excellent job the last few years (including Shannon's last year). Start with the Drafting of Cyr, McKenna, Aspirot. The recruitment of Khovanov. Hitting on all of their high picks in 2017,18,19. Spence probably the most savy of the picks. Getting Rodrigue early. Adding a 19 YO high end euro D. Management has done an excellent job. not much to complain about IMO I’m not convinced that they will have the 2021 and 2022 1st rounders with L’heureux not moving. I hope you are right. In terms of the future, I’m not sold RKI will sign off on moving ZL for a boatload of picks/prospects in June or December, I was hoping he would be futures for Groulx and Mcisaac instead of the two 19 year olds, pretty safe to assume Spence and Pelletier would move next year, ZL, I’m not sure. The point in most of the trades you listed is, they wasted some very good assets, 1st and 2nd rounders on role and depth players to try and win 1 or 2 playoff rounds. Why do that when you have zero chance of winning it all? My issue with the Bellamy trade was mainly that they had little else in terms of young D and they had him sitting for Auger, Arsenault and Weiringa who had no long term future in the Q. I have no issue with what they did since June, my issue is the 2017-18 and 2018-19 seasons of lateral moves, and gambles and wasted picks. |
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Post by Arnold Slick on Jan 6, 2020 14:52:31 GMT -4
Yup pretty much. Send a thank you card to Irving. Now that the dust has settled I think the Cats have the best team in the Q. Is it good enough that they can survive having to beat two of Chicoutimi, Rimouski and CB just to get to the Final while Sherbrooke will basically have a bye (assuming they end up 1st overall)? That's what we'll find out. They key is to overtake Chicoutimi now ... I doubt we can catch Sherbrooke. No more losing allowed ... time to go on a 30 game run. Winning the conference is certainly the goal now. Cats have been great at home so home ice for the first three rounds would be huge. If Sherbrooke maintains their current pace the Cats can afford either one regulation loss or two OT/SO losses. Not likely. That "Torchetti stretch" really cost the Cats any chance at 1st overall. |
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Post by catshockey on Jan 6, 2020 15:05:33 GMT -4
As far as I am concerned, they needed Torchetti to guide them to the Championship! That was the biggest loss!
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Post by SteveUL on Jan 6, 2020 15:36:59 GMT -4
As far as I am concerned, they needed Torchetti to guide them to the Championship! That was the biggest loss! You aren't giving Lacroix any chance to do anything. He hasn't had his full lineup with him yet and not his #1 goaltender. Torchetti had all of that. |
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