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Post by pinkbeaver on Nov 18, 2019 15:42:12 GMT -4
Someone with no record makes an open ice hit.... 7 games. Repeat offender bites someone.... 1 game. Makes sense.... For the leagues sake, I hope it was more of a "nibble". |
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Post by Captain Obvious on Nov 18, 2019 16:05:37 GMT -4
Someone with no record makes an open ice hit.... 7 games. Repeat offender bites someone.... 1 game. Makes sense.... For the leagues sake, I hope it was more of a "nibble". Either it was a bad call by the ref and they overturned the match penalty, or this is an automatic suspension and he gets more after a review. |
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Post by SteveUL on Nov 19, 2019 8:42:53 GMT -4
Someone with no record makes an open ice hit.... 7 games. Repeat offender bites someone.... 1 game. Makes sense.... For the leagues sake, I hope it was more of a "nibble". Either it was a bad call by the ref and they overturned the match penalty, or this is an automatic suspension and he gets more after a review. Why would be an overturned match penalty ? A match comes with an automatic one game suspension, plus a review. Perhaps they reviewed it and could find nothing showing the bite, so they stuck with the Ref's call and went with the automatic one game ... that's not "overturned". They would post it as "suspended indefinitely" if there was more to come. I agree that a bite is reprehensible, but we have to know how it occurred to understand it. At the time, Pelletier and Khavanov were both being swarmed by Islander players. If one reaches in from behind on Khavanov and gets his finger(s) in his mouth, from say a face wash type of move, while two others have grabbed onto Khovanov from the front, then I am okay with the bite (3 on 1 you have to do what you can to protect yourself), but would expect at least a game suspension. If Khovanov pulled a Tyson on Holyfield type of thing then that is different. If this was a one on one fight then I see more games being added. But it isn't ... its a swarming. Edit: Watched video again and you can see Clavelle hanging onto Khovanov from behind while at least two others are in Khovanov's face with a few punches thrown his way. Then you see Clavelle running around after trying to get a Ref to look at his finger. I don't have a problem with the bite under those circumstances. The Match is a shitty call under those circumstances because he was being swarmed. |
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Post by Jacques Strap on Nov 19, 2019 8:47:23 GMT -4
And when we said this guy was a big douche people actually defended him. Hilarious.
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Post by wild1 on Nov 19, 2019 9:28:31 GMT -4
And when we said this guy was a big douche people actually defended him. Hilarious. I don't like Khovanov the way he celebrates goals too much showboating, but in this situation he did the right thing, you have two guys being swarmed by 20! In that case you can bite, kick with your skate, spear in the groin or swing at their heads with your stick, because you are up against a bunch of gutless goons. The Islanders are nothing but a bunch of cowards! |
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Post by bois on Nov 19, 2019 10:15:40 GMT -4
And when we said this guy was a big douche people actually defended him. Hilarious. I don't like Khovanov the way he celebrates goals too much showboating, but in this situation he did the right thing, you have two guys being swarmed by 20! In that case you can bite, kick with your skate, spear in the groin or swing at their heads with your stick, because you are up against a bunch of gutless goons. The Islanders are nothing but a bunch of cowards! take some meds put your keyboard away and try again tomorrow what a garbage post |
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Post by lirette on Nov 19, 2019 10:22:07 GMT -4
And when we said this guy was a big douche people actually defended him. Hilarious. I think its hilarious that people get so upset about his celebrations which I believe is the discussion you are referring to. I can't imagine how flapping your arms is really that much different from scrubbing the ice (MacKinnon). I'll always say if you don't like the way a guy celebrates don't let him score. Given the lack of personality in today's game I'd love to see more guys be creative with their celebrations regardless of what team they are on. I don't think you'd find many people who think Khovanov is a saint on the ice. Comparing the personality of players like Pelletier and Khovanov would be night and day. He's clearly an agitator who goes over the edge when he's losing and can cost his team with poor discipline. The cross check last season being the worst example of that behaviour. I would't like him either if I wasn't a fan of the Cats.. but I'd certainly acknowledge that he brings some entertainment value. The discussion really isn't as simple as you are making it with your post here. The Cats fans aren't really posting with any kind of group mentality, lots of varied opinions as we can see on this thread. |
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Post by bois on Nov 19, 2019 10:27:58 GMT -4
And when we said this guy was a big douche people actually defended him. Hilarious. I think its hilarious that people get so upset about his celebrations which I believe is the discussion you are referring to. I can't imagine how flapping your arms is really that much different from scrubbing the ice (MacKinnon). I'll always say if you don't like the way a guy celebrates don't let him score. Given the lack of personality in today's game I'd love to see more guys be creative with their celebrations regardless of what team they are on. I don't think you'd find many people who think Khovanov is a saint on the ice. Comparing the personality of players like Pelletier and Khovanov would be night and day. He's clearly an agitator who goes over the edge when he's losing and can cost his team with poor discipline. The cross check last season being the worst example of that behaviour. I would't like him either if I wasn't a fan of the Cats.. but I'd certainly acknowledge that he brings some entertainment value. The discussion really isn't as simple as you are making it with your post here. The Cats fans aren't really posting with any kind of group mentality, lots of varied opinions as we can see on this thread. good post i used to get annoyed by some of the on ice antics of players in the league but i now realize what i should have always realized.... i'm a fan not on the ice so why be bothered by a stupid celebration? however there's really nothing creative about flapping your arms like a bird.... he's simply copying Kuznetsov... but that's his choice i agree fully having players like that adds to entertainment value i don't agree there's ever a valid excuse for biting someone on the ice tho |
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Post by lirette on Nov 19, 2019 10:35:38 GMT -4
I think its hilarious that people get so upset about his celebrations which I believe is the discussion you are referring to. I can't imagine how flapping your arms is really that much different from scrubbing the ice (MacKinnon). I'll always say if you don't like the way a guy celebrates don't let him score. Given the lack of personality in today's game I'd love to see more guys be creative with their celebrations regardless of what team they are on. I don't think you'd find many people who think Khovanov is a saint on the ice. Comparing the personality of players like Pelletier and Khovanov would be night and day. He's clearly an agitator who goes over the edge when he's losing and can cost his team with poor discipline. The cross check last season being the worst example of that behaviour. I would't like him either if I wasn't a fan of the Cats.. but I'd certainly acknowledge that he brings some entertainment value. The discussion really isn't as simple as you are making it with your post here. The Cats fans aren't really posting with any kind of group mentality, lots of varied opinions as we can see on this thread. good post i used to get annoyed by some of the on ice antics of players in the league but i now realize what i should have always realized.... i'm a fan not on the ice so why be bothered by a stupid celebration? however there's really nothing creative about flapping your arms like a bird.... he's simply copying Kuznetsov... but that's his choice i agree fully having players like that adds to entertainment value i don't agree there's ever a valid excuse for biting someone on the ice tho Yeah I'm certainly not saying he's creative by doing the bird flap. He also does the Auston Matthews celebration sometimes...I'd love to see some guys come up with their own celebrations. In some ways it can incite little rivalries between the players which is sorely lacking these days. Recently in Halifax Fabian Hochegger did the bird flap after scoring on a powerplay from a double minor from Lavoie. Not sure on his connection to the whole thing seeing as he's Austrian but it got a laugh from me. Not defending the bite, in fact abit surprised on the fact that it was only 1 game. Perhaps the circumstances of being outnumbered or who the league felt instigated the skirkmish he get let off the hook abit but I don't pretend to understand the Q's discipline system. Lafreniere got no suspension for physical abuse of officials in the same weekend. |
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Post by SteveUL on Nov 19, 2019 10:41:36 GMT -4
And when we said this guy was a big douche people actually defended him. Hilarious. I don't like Khovanov the way he celebrates goals too much showboating, but in this situation he did the right thing, you have two guys being swarmed by 20! In that case you can bite, kick with your skate, spear in the groin or swing at their heads with your stick, because you are up against a bunch of gutless goons. The Islanders are nothing but a bunch of cowards! No ... you can't do all that. If you can pull yourself back far enough to spear somebody or swing your stick at their heads then you can also skate away at that moment. But when he is being swarmed he is just trying to stay on his feet and get out of there, so kicking is not an option ... not intentionally anyway. Clavelle got his own hands in Khovanov's face from behind as he added to the attack on Khovanov ... if he got bit in that moment that's on him. It was a cowardly act by several Islander players ... but not all 20 Islander players participated in this. |
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Post by Jacques Strap on Nov 19, 2019 11:20:21 GMT -4
And when we said this guy was a big douche people actually defended him. Hilarious. I think its hilarious that people get so upset about his celebrations which I believe is the discussion you are referring to. I can't imagine how flapping your arms is really that much different from scrubbing the ice (MacKinnon). I'll always say if you don't like the way a guy celebrates don't let him score. Given the lack of personality in today's game I'd love to see more guys be creative with their celebrations regardless of what team they are on. I don't think you'd find many people who think Khovanov is a saint on the ice. Comparing the personality of players like Pelletier and Khovanov would be night and day. He's clearly an agitator who goes over the edge when he's losing and can cost his team with poor discipline. The cross check last season being the worst example of that behaviour. I would't like him either if I wasn't a fan of the Cats.. but I'd certainly acknowledge that he brings some entertainment value. The discussion really isn't as simple as you are making it with your post here. The Cats fans aren't really posting with any kind of group mentality, lots of varied opinions as we can see on this thread. Not just the celebrations. He is a dirty player. And his latest incident just confirms that. How do u seriously defend that. |
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Post by Jack Bauer on Nov 19, 2019 11:30:10 GMT -4
I think its hilarious that people get so upset about his celebrations which I believe is the discussion you are referring to. I can't imagine how flapping your arms is really that much different from scrubbing the ice (MacKinnon). I'll always say if you don't like the way a guy celebrates don't let him score. Given the lack of personality in today's game I'd love to see more guys be creative with their celebrations regardless of what team they are on. I don't think you'd find many people who think Khovanov is a saint on the ice. Comparing the personality of players like Pelletier and Khovanov would be night and day. He's clearly an agitator who goes over the edge when he's losing and can cost his team with poor discipline. The cross check last season being the worst example of that behaviour. I would't like him either if I wasn't a fan of the Cats.. but I'd certainly acknowledge that he brings some entertainment value. The discussion really isn't as simple as you are making it with your post here. The Cats fans aren't really posting with any kind of group mentality, lots of varied opinions as we can see on this thread. Not just the celebrations. He is a dirty player. And his latest incident just confirms that. How do u seriously defend that. Did you even read what he said? He's not defending the actions as not being dirty. But if he's on YOUR team you have no reason to whine about his actions until he's harming your team with them. With a player that skilled you take the bad with the good. What are they supposed to do demand that one of their best players get cut because he crosses the line from time to time? These are kids all maturing at different rates. |
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Post by lirette on Nov 19, 2019 11:36:25 GMT -4
I haven't seen anyone defending him, I even went back to the game thread where the cross check occured last season and there wasn't a single person defending him. In fact the only Moncton poster who commented on it commented negatively on him.
We don't control his actions on the ice so I'm really not sure what you are looking for.
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Post by wild1 on Nov 19, 2019 12:07:10 GMT -4
I don't like Khovanov the way he celebrates goals too much showboating, but in this situation he did the right thing, you have two guys being swarmed by 20! In that case you can bite, kick with your skate, spear in the groin or swing at their heads with your stick, because you are up against a bunch of gutless goons. The Islanders are nothing but a bunch of cowards! take some meds put your keyboard away and try again tomorrow what a garbage post Anyone who supports what the Islanders did and think they are not cowards is garbage. Khovanov did what he had to in that situation, it is not like it was one on one and pulled some crap by biting someone. If anyone is swarmed by a group of people you will do what you have to in order to defend yourself. |
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Post by Jacques Strap on Nov 19, 2019 12:07:10 GMT -4
Not just the celebrations. He is a dirty player. And his latest incident just confirms that. How do u seriously defend that. Did you even read what he said? He's not defending the actions as not being dirty. But if he's on YOUR team you have no reason to whine about his actions until he's harming your team with them. With a player that skilled you take the bad with the good. What are they supposed to do demand that one of their best players get cut because he crosses the line from time to time? These are kids all maturing at different rates. No I didn't. Only got so far and impulsively replied. My Bad. Apologies. |
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