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Post by joehockey on Jun 8, 2020 8:58:00 GMT -4
The American draft is today. Have any of the players drafted in this draft ever played in the Q?
Also, I think the entire draft took about half hour last year so I expect it will be quick.
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Post by WhiteTyAffair on Jun 8, 2020 9:23:09 GMT -4
The American draft is today. Have any of the players drafted in this draft ever played in the Q? Also, I think the entire draft took about half hour last year so I expect it will be quick. No players selected in the American Draft have played in the Q. That could change if the Covid situation doesn't improve in the states. |
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Post by chootoi on Jun 8, 2020 9:30:09 GMT -4
There are still a fair amount of Americans that are getting picked late in the regular draft. Like the Cats picking Luke Santilli from Massachusetts in the 14 rd. Saint John picked 2 Americans in the last rounds as well. There were also some last year in the last rounds. Anyone know what makes these guys different? Are they all dual citizens and it's just a coincidence they are picked in the last 2 rounds?
Maybe there is sort of a CFL-style quota that says once your protected list reaches a certain quota of Canadian born players you may add Americans?
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Post by Jack Bauer on Jun 8, 2020 10:01:08 GMT -4
There are still a fair amount of Americans that are getting picked late in the regular draft. Like the Cats picking Luke Santilli from Massachusetts in the 14 rd. Saint John picked 2 Americans in the last rounds as well. There were also some last year in the last rounds. Anyone know what makes these guys different? Are they all dual citizens and it's just a coincidence they are picked in the last 2 rounds? Maybe there is sort of a CFL-style quota that says once your protected list reaches a certain quota of Canadian born players you may add Americans? I think the quota is just having 2 Americans on your protected list. The reason this American draft makes zero sense is that if you had an American committed you could have picked him in round 11 on Saturday. They should make it so Americans can ONLY be picked in the American draft if they want the draft to mean anything. |
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Post by WhiteTyAffair on Jun 8, 2020 10:50:24 GMT -4
American Draft:
Pick 17 - Cam Lund
One of the better 2004 players in Massachusetts. He was a 2nd round pick in the USHL Draft. It will be a huge win if he comes to camp. Even if it's just for 48 hours. Reminds me alot of Cam Askew but with a much better work ethic.
Pick 35 - Shane Baker
High IQ player. Very creative with the puck and possesses excellent offensive instincts. High end vision and passing ability especially in the offensive zone. Quick, shifty, smooth skater with slick hands. A player who is difficult to defend.
Here's a video from a New England scout. Talks about Cam Lund and Nolan Hayes.
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Post by jimmy on Jun 8, 2020 11:06:49 GMT -4
American Draft: Pick 17 - Cam Lund One of the better 2004 players in Massachusetts. He was a 2nd round pick in the USHL Draft. It will be a huge win if he comes to camp. Even if it's just for 48 hours. Reminds me alot of Cam Askew but with a much better work ethic. Pick 25 - Shane Baker High IQ player. Very creative with the puck and possesses excellent offensive instincts. High end vision and passing ability especially in the offensive zone. Quick, shifty, smooth skater with slick hands. A player who is difficult to defend. Here's a video from a New England scout. Talks about Cam Lund and Nolan Hayes. Could be entirely coincidental ... but I like going after guys where we can show a link to past players having success ... Lund played for Cushing (same as Keith Yandle), Baker is out of the same Jr. Bruins program as Conor Garland. Might at least make them a bit more likely to answer the phone and give some thought to what we have to offer ... |
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Post by MikeC on Jun 8, 2020 13:23:28 GMT -4
They should make it so Americans can ONLY be picked in the American draft if they want the draft to mean anything. Don't like that. Now the last place team gets first crack at the best eligible Canadian and American? And what if I'm a team that wants to select more than 2 Americans? I agree the US draft is basically useless, but I don't think that is the way to go. We all know what they need to do if they want to get back to even the low number of Americans they used to get. |
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Post by Citris on Jun 8, 2020 14:24:20 GMT -4
One small change they could make is to hold the American draft before the Midget draft.
But then again, if there's a Cam Askew, than whoever gets 1st overall has a huge advantage. Maybe have the american draft go first and draft order determined by lottery so it's not guarenteed that the same team gets the 1st picks in both drafts.
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Post by SteveUL on Jun 8, 2020 14:34:01 GMT -4
There are still a fair amount of Americans that are getting picked late in the regular draft. Like the Cats picking Luke Santilli from Massachusetts in the 14 rd. Saint John picked 2 Americans in the last rounds as well. There were also some last year in the last rounds. Anyone know what makes these guys different? Are they all dual citizens and it's just a coincidence they are picked in the last 2 rounds? Maybe there is sort of a CFL-style quota that says once your protected list reaches a certain quota of Canadian born players you may add Americans? I think the quota is just having 2 Americans on your protected list. The reason this American draft makes zero sense is that if you had an American committed you could have picked him in round 11 on Saturday. They should make it so Americans can ONLY be picked in the American draft if they want the draft to mean anything. If I have a US kid that will report, then I'm going to take him in the regular draft. It may be a kid that only projects to be a third liner or something so I'll take him where his skill fits with other kids being drafted. Just because he is american doesn't mean I take him higher. I'm using my Two American picks on high end kids that probably won't report, but could potentially report somewhere down the road. Part of the reason for the American draft is to tie these guys up so the OHL teams can't poach them. If they aren't attached to any team after the next draft then they can be signed as FAs by an OHL team. So this ties them up. If they want to play in the CHL they have to come to the Q. |
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Post by jimmy on Jun 8, 2020 14:34:11 GMT -4
One small change they could make is to hold the American draft before the Midget draft. But then again, if there's a Cam Askew, than whoever gets 1st overall has a huge advantage. Maybe have the american draft go first and draft order determined by lottery so it's not guarenteed that the same team gets the 1st picks in both drafts. The obvious answer is to scrap it altogether and just have teams draft Americans wherever they see fit in the regular draft. The current format works for no one, and I can't imagine the league gets much if any publicity from it, either here or in the States. |
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Post by jimmy on Jun 8, 2020 14:36:50 GMT -4
I think the quota is just having 2 Americans on your protected list. The reason this American draft makes zero sense is that if you had an American committed you could have picked him in round 11 on Saturday. They should make it so Americans can ONLY be picked in the American draft if they want the draft to mean anything. If I have a US kid that will report, then I'm going to take him in the regular draft. It may be a kid that only projects to be a third liner or something so I'll take him where his skill fits with other kids being drafted. Just because he is american doesn't mean I take him higher. I'm using my Two American picks on high end kids that probably won't report, but could potentially report somewhere down the road. Part of the reason for the American draft is to tie these guys up so the OHL teams can't poach them. If they aren't attached to any team after the next draft then they can be signed as FAs by an OHL team. So this ties them up. If they want to play in the CHL they have to come to the Q. I mostly agree with you ... but I am also alright with my team using a late pick or two each year in the regular draft to swing for the fences on the top American guys ... stash them on the bottom of your 50 man list for a few years, in case something ever changes. The players you were otherwise going to draft late will either be available as FAs or someone comparable will be. |
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Post by Citris on Jun 8, 2020 14:37:21 GMT -4
One small change they could make is to hold the American draft before the Midget draft. But then again, if there's a Cam Askew, than whoever gets 1st overall has a huge advantage. Maybe have the american draft go first and draft order determined by lottery so it's not guarenteed that the same team gets the 1st picks in both drafts. The obvious answer is to scrap it altogether and just have teams draft Americans wherever they see fit in the regular draft. The current format works for no one, and I can't imagine the league gets much if any publicity from it, either here or in the States. I mean, you're probably not wrong lol. |
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Post by catzfans on Jun 8, 2020 14:52:28 GMT -4
I think the quota is just having 2 Americans on your protected list. The reason this American draft makes zero sense is that if you had an American committed you could have picked him in round 11 on Saturday. They should make it so Americans can ONLY be picked in the American draft if they want the draft to mean anything. If I have a US kid that will report, then I'm going to take him in the regular draft. It may be a kid that only projects to be a third liner or something so I'll take him where his skill fits with other kids being drafted. Just because he is american doesn't mean I take him higher. I'm using my Two American picks on high end kids that probably won't report, but could potentially report somewhere down the road. Part of the reason for the American draft is to tie these guys up so the OHL teams can't poach them. If they aren't attached to any team after the next draft then they can be signed as FAs by an OHL team. So this ties them up. If they want to play in the CHL they have to come to the Q. My thoughts exactly. You might as well take a huge swing with these 2 picks. Both kids from last year and 3 of the 4 drafted are already off the roster so it makes it seem like the teams are just going through the motions. What's the point in drafting a kid that's probably not Q caliber anyway? |
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Post by Jack Bauer on Jun 8, 2020 14:57:14 GMT -4
One small change they could make is to hold the American draft before the Midget draft. But then again, if there's a Cam Askew, than whoever gets 1st overall has a huge advantage. Maybe have the american draft go first and draft order determined by lottery so it's not guarenteed that the same team gets the 1st picks in both drafts. The obvious answer is to scrap it altogether and just have teams draft Americans wherever they see fit in the regular draft. The current format works for no one, and I can't imagine the league gets much if any publicity from it, either here or in the States. You get negative publicity from a draft where nobody wants to play for you. I don't see any positives coming from it. All it does is further confuse casual fans imo |
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Post by Jack Bauer on Jun 8, 2020 15:01:19 GMT -4
If I have a US kid that will report, then I'm going to take him in the regular draft. It may be a kid that only projects to be a third liner or something so I'll take him where his skill fits with other kids being drafted. Just because he is american doesn't mean I take him higher. I'm using my Two American picks on high end kids that probably won't report, but could potentially report somewhere down the road. Part of the reason for the American draft is to tie these guys up so the OHL teams can't poach them. If they aren't attached to any team after the next draft then they can be signed as FAs by an OHL team. So this ties them up. If they want to play in the CHL they have to come to the Q. My thoughts exactly. You might as well take a huge swing with these 2 picks. Both kids from last year and 3 of the 4 drafted are already off the roster so it makes it seem like the teams are just going through the motions. What's the point in drafting a kid that's probably not Q caliber anyway? I think they thought kids/parents/someone would find some attraction to it. That would make sense if it came before the midget draft where they were also eligible. I'm sure the kids are Q caliber. But they already have their futures mapped out for the most part. Which is why the ones to look at as serious about the Q were picked on Saturday. |
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