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Post by WhiteTyAffair on Jun 8, 2020 15:22:50 GMT -4
There's a good chance Cam Lund and Nolan Hayes will be at training camp. Whether that's just for 48 hours is to be determined.
I haven't heard anything about Shane Baker.
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Post by joehockey on Jun 8, 2020 17:55:48 GMT -4
There's a good chance Cam Lund and Nolan Hayes will be at training camp. Whether that's just for 48 hours is to be determined. I haven't heard anything about Shane Baker. Have you heard whether any of the regular draft picks will not show up to camp (ex: Hryckowian, Santilli, or Muller) or do they think that most will report for at least 48 hours? |
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Post by jimmy on Jun 8, 2020 18:20:29 GMT -4
There's a good chance Cam Lund and Nolan Hayes will be at training camp. Whether that's just for 48 hours is to be determined. I haven't heard anything about Shane Baker. I will believe when I see it with Lund ... if anyone thought there was the slightest interest in the Q, including the Cats, they would have spent a mid to late round pick on him in the regular draft and not risked him being there in the US draft. |
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Post by WhiteTyAffair on Jun 8, 2020 18:43:28 GMT -4
There's a good chance Cam Lund and Nolan Hayes will be at training camp. Whether that's just for 48 hours is to be determined. I haven't heard anything about Shane Baker. I will believe when I see it with Lund ... if anyone thought there was the slightest interest in the Q, including the Cats, they would have spent a mid to late round pick on him in the regular draft and not risked him being there in the US draft. Quote from Ritchie Thibeau regarding Lund: "He's very excited to be drafted by us and he's looking forward to coming to training camp. He's showing an interest in major junior and wants to come to camp to see what it's like and learn about our program." |
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Post by WhiteTyAffair on Jun 8, 2020 18:46:49 GMT -4
There's a good chance Cam Lund and Nolan Hayes will be at training camp. Whether that's just for 48 hours is to be determined. I haven't heard anything about Shane Baker. Have you heard whether any of the regular draft picks will not show up to camp (ex: Hryckowian, Santilli, or Muller) or do they think that most will report for at least 48 hours? Muller will be at camp. He's heading to Rothesay Netherwood next season. Don't know about Hryckowian or Santilli. |
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Post by WhiteTyAffair on Jun 8, 2020 18:59:47 GMT -4
Post-draft roster prediction:
Loshing - Daoust - Euro
Euro - Hudson - FA
Rozzi - Cloutier - FA
Leblanc - Langlois - Watt
Extras: Forsythe, Crooks
Stewart - Spence
Pavan - DeJong
FA - Hopkins
Extras: Berube, Dow
Lund Cornish
DiMattia / Sheehan
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Post by catzfans on Jun 8, 2020 19:18:42 GMT -4
Post-draft roster prediction: Loshing - Daoust - Euro Euro - Hudson - FA Rozzi - Cloutier - FA Leblanc - Langlois - Watt Extras: Forsythe, Crooks Stewart - Spence Pavan - DeJong FA - Hopkins Extras: Berube, Dow Lund Cornish DiMattia / Sheehan Not a fan of Isaac Wilson? I included him in my prediction yesterday. He played enough games last year to earn a spot in the top 7 IMO. Obviously if we land a legit FA that can change. This would only be for 1/2 a season at best as Spence and possibly DeJong moving would open up more spots. |
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Post by joehockey on Jun 8, 2020 21:19:15 GMT -4
I will believe when I see it with Lund ... if anyone thought there was the slightest interest in the Q, including the Cats, they would have spent a mid to late round pick on him in the regular draft and not risked him being there in the US draft. Quote from Ritchie Thibeau regarding Lund: "He's very excited to be drafted by us and he's looking forward to coming to training camp. He's showing an interest in major junior and wants to come to camp to see what it's like and learn about our program." He was also drafted in the second round in the USHL draft so if he’s planning to come to Moncton’s camp then he must not be going to the USHL next year since their training camps seem to usually start earlier than the CHL’s (who knows next year though). At least he’s planning to give Moncton a shot, which is more than the last few players they’ve drafted. |
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Post by Captain Obvious on Jun 9, 2020 8:18:03 GMT -4
Post-draft roster prediction: Loshing - Daoust - Euro Euro - Hudson - FA Rozzi - Cloutier - FA Leblanc - Langlois - Watt Extras: Forsythe, Crooks Stewart - Spence Pavan - DeJong FA - Hopkins Extras: Berube, Dow Lund Cornish DiMattia / Sheehan I would think being 17 and coming off big MAAA numbers that Cloutier would be playing higher in the lineup than Loshing who is 16. I think you will see them bring in a pile of FA's plus possibly move Dejong to open up a spot for Leonard up front. I see Crooks and Forsyth as longshots, more likely Jr.A AF players. |
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Post by chootoi on Jun 9, 2020 8:54:24 GMT -4
Who would be the likely candidates for the C? Hudson/Leonard/Spence? Do they give it to Spence knowing he is likely gone mid season?
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Post by kuba on Jun 9, 2020 9:45:13 GMT -4
Hudson .
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Post by joehockey on Jun 9, 2020 10:13:42 GMT -4
I agree. I think Hudson will be captain. |
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Post by pinkbeaver on Jun 9, 2020 11:11:28 GMT -4
I haven't been on here in a while because there hasn't been much reason to get interested excited with all that is going on and the season cancelled. I will weigh in post draft that I am beyond disappointed with the Groulx + McIsaac deal. I think you could argue for why it was done with a Mem Cup appearance but it stings that much more with the cancelled season.
1st 2021 (likely lottery)
1st 2022 (likely lottery)
Desnoyers (at minimum like 1st + 2nd round value) - 2-3 years left in the Q
L'Heureux (at minimum like 3 1st's of value. you could argue more given his upside to be the best player in the league) - 2-3 years left in the Q
So when the dust settles your talking about 2 young impact players, 1 of which is a future superstar and 2 likely lottery picks. 1 of the worst over payments ever.
Haven't read the Halifax board yet but they must be on cloud 9. Dumped everyone in a cancelled season year and got the ABSOLUTE MAX value for McIsaac and Groulx. They will be back at the mem cup in a few years and Moncton will still be rebuilding.
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Post by Captain Obvious on Jun 9, 2020 11:35:06 GMT -4
I haven't been on here in a while because there hasn't been much reason to get interested excited with all that is going on and the season cancelled. I will weigh in post draft that I am beyond disappointed with the Groulx + McIsaac deal. I think you could argue for why it was done with a Mem Cup appearance but it stings that much more with the cancelled season. 1st 2021 (likely lottery) 1st 2022 (likely lottery) Desnoyers (at minimum like 1st + 2nd round value) - 2-3 years left in the Q L'Heureux (at minimum like 3 1st's of value. you could argue more given his upside to be the best player in the league) - 2-3 years left in the Q So when the dust settles your talking about 2 young impact players, 1 of which is a future superstar and 2 likely lottery picks. 1 of the worst over payments ever. Haven't read the Halifax board yet but they must be on cloud 9. Dumped everyone in a cancelled season year and got the ABSOLUTE MAX value for McIsaac and Groulx. They will be back at the mem cup in a few years and Moncton will still be rebuilding. I was saying that last week. Personally at that price I would have walked away until the price dropped by 25-30%. IMO having to give up L'heureux PLUS two 1st rounders is a big overpaymnt. they could have traded for other players cheaper and still won a league title and possible MC. It's like ownership or the coach/GM got tunnel vision for those two players without looking at guys like Bolduc Bergeron Boudrias Lavoie Mercer Element Bouchard etc. Those seven guys cost almost as much as the two the cats traded for. It's great that they got a pile of assets for Pelletier, but that deal with Halifax still leaves them in a spot where the rebuild will be long and painful if they want to contend. If they take the Patenaude/Shannon plan and take shortcuts, trade picks for veterans they can be mid pack in a couple of years but not really contend. |
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Post by pinkbeaver on Jun 9, 2020 12:03:10 GMT -4
I haven't been on here in a while because there hasn't been much reason to get interested excited with all that is going on and the season cancelled. I will weigh in post draft that I am beyond disappointed with the Groulx + McIsaac deal. I think you could argue for why it was done with a Mem Cup appearance but it stings that much more with the cancelled season. 1st 2021 (likely lottery) 1st 2022 (likely lottery) Desnoyers (at minimum like 1st + 2nd round value) - 2-3 years left in the Q L'Heureux (at minimum like 3 1st's of value. you could argue more given his upside to be the best player in the league) - 2-3 years left in the Q So when the dust settles your talking about 2 young impact players, 1 of which is a future superstar and 2 likely lottery picks. 1 of the worst over payments ever. Haven't read the Halifax board yet but they must be on cloud 9. Dumped everyone in a cancelled season year and got the ABSOLUTE MAX value for McIsaac and Groulx. They will be back at the mem cup in a few years and Moncton will still be rebuilding. I was saying that last week. Personally at that price I would have walked away until the price dropped by 25-30%. IMO having to give up L'heureux PLUS two 1st rounders is a big overpaymnt. they could have traded for other players cheaper and still won a league title and possible MC. It's like ownership or the coach/GM got tunnel vision for those two players without looking at guys like Bolduc Bergeron Boudrias Lavoie Mercer Element Bouchard etc. Those seven guys cost almost as much as the two the cats traded for. It's great that they got a pile of assets for Pelletier, but that deal with Halifax still leaves them in a spot where the rebuild will be long and painful if they want to contend. If they take the Patenaude/Shannon plan and take shortcuts, trade picks for veterans they can be mid pack in a couple of years but not really contend. 100% agree. There were so many top tier players that were available. Halifax alone had many players to move. With the roster Moncton had, they had as much buying power, and ability to wait as anyone. They were already good before the deal and there were many players that could have got them over the top. They paid as much for them as Mercer but he will be back in the league next year and alot of his value recouped. remembering the discussion in December, and now that the dust has settled, its obvious the deal was done really early before most trade discussions even started. they wanted to lock in those guys in (like you said tunnel vision) before anyone else had a shot to offer. Lavoie went for a 1st,2nd,2nd,3rd and then you pay a package worth double that for each of McIsaac and Groulx. Even if they won it all it looks bad. |
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