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Post by Captain Obvious on Jan 5, 2021 15:44:32 GMT -4
Assuming these guys develop, here would be the building blocks for 2 and 3 years down the road...
G-Filion(04)(assuming he comes for Spence)
G-Katz(04)
D-Hopkins(04)
D-Iasenza(04)
F-Rozzi(04)
F-Loshing(04)
F-Casey(04)
D-Pilotte(03)
D-Pavan(03)
F-Cloutier(03)
F-Barbashev(03)??
F-LeBlanc(03)
F-Daniel(03)
F-Labelle(02)
F-Langlois(02)
D-Olson(02)
D-Hamel(02)
We are starting to see some building blocks, obviously A LOT of unknown in regards to the 03 and 04's. The main issue is, how many project to be fronline players, Top 6F top4D and #1G on a contender. At this point you can project 6 maybe 7 if things go well.
The return on Spence, Fortier and/or Daoust will have an impact as will the next 2 drafts with current picks.
I wouldn't say the team is looking stacked in 2 years, but a lot more signs of optimism than 7 months ago before the draft.
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Post by catzfans on Jan 5, 2021 18:37:19 GMT -4
How good is Fillion? It's quite the exercise to look and see that the Wildcats have not developed a goalie from age 16/17 since Riopel. Filion is very good, projects to be a franchise goalie, has played for Team Canada at that age group, and if he develops as expected you could see him as a world Junior goalie at 19. He's a cornerstone piece if you're trying to rebuild. That would be a good start to the deal. Realistically what else does Val D'Or even have to contribute as other assets? |
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Post by Doublesnipers on Jan 5, 2021 19:00:17 GMT -4
Filion is very good, projects to be a franchise goalie, has played for Team Canada at that age group, and if he develops as expected you could see him as a world Junior goalie at 19. He's a cornerstone piece if you're trying to rebuild. That would be a good start to the deal. Realistically what else does Val D'Or even have to contribute as other assets? My guess would be it would be structured as a futures deal as has been mentioned already, where we get place holder picks till they potentially get a 1st back from their trade with Baie Comeau or place holder picks for maybe Robidas at draft who we could then flip for more return next year ( all speculation) |
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Post by WhiteTyAffair on Jan 5, 2021 19:36:49 GMT -4
It appears the Wildcats have moved on from Val Usnik. No sense bringing him here for a couple months.
Max Barbashev has been living with Ivan for the last few months. He's currently in St. Louis waiting for the go ahead to jump on a plane to Moncton.
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Post by Doublesnipers on Jan 5, 2021 20:10:14 GMT -4
It appears the Wildcats have moved on from Val Usnik. No sense bringing him here for a couple months. Max Barbashev has been living with Ivan for the last few months. He's currently in St. Louis waiting for the go ahead to jump on a plane to Moncton. Now that we’ve moved Fortier we don’t have any 20 year olds sitting ( Hudson gets to play again). No sense in parting ways with Lund Cornish ( who has been good so far this season) like you said for a few months of Usnik( wouldn’t be back next year). |
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Post by Captain Obvious on Jan 5, 2021 20:35:03 GMT -4
It appears the Wildcats have moved on from Val Usnik. No sense bringing him here for a couple months. Max Barbashev has been living with Ivan for the last few months. He's currently in St. Louis waiting for the go ahead to jump on a plane to Moncton. Now that we’ve moved Fortier we don’t have any 20 year olds sitting ( Hudson gets to play again). No sense in parting ways with Lund Cornish ( who has been good so far this season) like you said for a few months of Usnik( wouldn’t be back next year). Plus if they are getting Filion and Quebec MAAA is not starting he likely ends up in Moncton...assuming thing calm down here. |
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Post by Citris on Jan 5, 2021 22:11:41 GMT -4
It appears the Wildcats have moved on from Val Usnik. No sense bringing him here for a couple months. Max Barbashev has been living with Ivan for the last few months. He's currently in St. Louis waiting for the go ahead to jump on a plane to Moncton. Especially if Filion is on his way. I bet they'd want him playing where he's not in Quebec. |
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Post by Captain Obvious on Jan 6, 2021 8:37:18 GMT -4
Assuming these guys develop, here would be the building blocks for 2 and 3 years down the road... G-Filion(04)(assuming he comes for Spence) G-Katz(04) D-Hopkins(04) D-Iasenza(04) F-Rozzi(04) F-Loshing(04) F-Casey(04) D-Pilotte(03) D-Pavan(03) F-Cloutier(03) F-Barbashev(03)?? F-LeBlanc(03) F-Daniel(03) F-Labelle(02) F-Langlois(02) D-Olson(02) D-Hamel(02) We are starting to see some building blocks, obviously A LOT of unknown in regards to the 03 and 04's. The main issue is, how many project to be fronline players, Top 6F top4D and #1G on a contender. At this point you can project 6 maybe 7 if things go well. The return on Spence, Fortier and/or Daoust will have an impact as will the next 2 drafts with current picks. I wouldn't say the team is looking stacked in 2 years, but a lot more signs of optimism than 7 months ago before the draft. Continuing on this point... The main work going forward will be to look to add more picks and young players the next 12-18 months. Part of that will be the next two Euro drafts. Ideally they can add an impact talent in June(ideally 17 with big upside). Depending on the status of Barbashev in 18 months they can add another Euro which may be 17 or 18 and can contribute right away. Ideally the Fortier and Spence deals bring back a couple of 1st rounders, at worse a 1st and 2nd to take a swing at impact guys. |
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Post by Captain Obvious on Jan 6, 2021 9:05:44 GMT -4
This might keep Fortier in the QMJHL...
8. Let’s look a little more at the AHL. Like Charlotte (Florida), Milwaukee (Nashville) and Springfield (St. Louis) announced Monday they will not play this season. The Checkers and Admirals made noises for some time that this would be their route, while the Thunderbirds made a more recent decision.
If your affiliate is five hours away from your NHL home base, a quarantine is necessary. That played a role in the Blues’ decision. They quickly made it public that their prospects will join Vancouver’s in Utica. Florida’s are expected to join Syracuse (Tampa Bay) and Nashville with Chicago (Carolina).
What wasn’t announced was a playoff structure. NHL clubs have made it very clear this season is more about development than competition. The post-season is not as big a priority for them.
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Post by joehockey on Jan 6, 2021 10:36:05 GMT -4
That would be a good start to the deal. Realistically what else does Val D'Or even have to contribute as other assets? My guess would be it would be structured as a futures deal as has been mentioned already, where we get place holder picks till they potentially get a 1st back from their trade with Baie Comeau or place holder picks for maybe Robidas at draft who we could then flip for more return next year ( all speculation) Rumour on the French board is that the trade is Spence for Filion, 1st, 2nd and/or 3rd with a pick or picks going back at the draft for Lessard. |
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Post by lirette on Jan 6, 2021 10:49:29 GMT -4
My guess would be it would be structured as a futures deal as has been mentioned already, where we get place holder picks till they potentially get a 1st back from their trade with Baie Comeau or place holder picks for maybe Robidas at draft who we could then flip for more return next year ( all speculation) Rumour on the French board is that the trade is Spence for Filion, 1st, 2nd and/or 3rd with a pick or picks going back at the draft for Lessard. Would be an incredible return. That return looks like there's not even a pandemic going on that could threaten the season at any point and teams playing in front of no fans. I felt it was a mistake not moving Spence at the draft risking that they get nothing if the seasons cancel but if thats what they get the gamble paid off. |
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Post by Captain Obvious on Jan 6, 2021 11:40:04 GMT -4
My guess would be it would be structured as a futures deal as has been mentioned already, where we get place holder picks till they potentially get a 1st back from their trade with Baie Comeau or place holder picks for maybe Robidas at draft who we could then flip for more return next year ( all speculation) Rumour on the French board is that the trade is Spence for Filion, 1st, 2nd and/or 3rd with a pick or picks going back at the draft for Lessard. That would be quite a haul, though VD only has a 1st in 2023 so it's likely that pick going back for Lessard. Filion Lessard(draft) plus 2nd and 3rd would still be a very good return. |
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Post by Captain Obvious on Jan 6, 2021 11:42:36 GMT -4
Rumour on the French board is that the trade is Spence for Filion, 1st, 2nd and/or 3rd with a pick or picks going back at the draft for Lessard. Would be an incredible return. That return looks like there's not even a pandemic going on that could threaten the season at any point and teams playing in front of no fans. I felt it was a mistake not moving Spence at the draft risking that they get nothing if the seasons cancel but if thats what they get the gamble paid off. It looks like a lot less if it's a 1st going back at the draft, VD only has their 2023 1st right now, which points to futures(unless VD sends a player to BC at the draft to get it back). A home run would be Filion Lessard plus 2022 1st. I'm sure all but Filion is likely conditional on the season being completed. Which is still a whole lot better than nothing. |
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Post by WhiteTyAffair on Jan 6, 2021 13:32:10 GMT -4
My guess would be it would be structured as a futures deal as has been mentioned already, where we get place holder picks till they potentially get a 1st back from their trade with Baie Comeau or place holder picks for maybe Robidas at draft who we could then flip for more return next year ( all speculation) Rumour on the French board is that the trade is Spence for Filion, 1st, 2nd and/or 3rd with a pick or picks going back at the draft for Lessard. I'll be honest. I can't see a situation where Moncton ends up with both Fillion and Lessard. I don't think we will see a future in this deal. Anything better than a 1st and Fillion is a home run IMO. Fillion is worth two 1st rounders alone. |
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Post by hockey1981 on Jan 6, 2021 15:12:40 GMT -4
Rumour on the French board is that the trade is Spence for Filion, 1st, 2nd and/or 3rd with a pick or picks going back at the draft for Lessard. I'll be honest. I can't see a situation where Moncton ends up with both Fillion and Lessard. I don't think we will see a future in this deal. Anything better than a 1st and Fillion is a home run IMO. Fillion is worth two 1st rounders alone. I heard Spence for Filion, 2023 1st and a mid pick. |
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