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Post by elementz on Jan 6, 2022 14:38:08 GMT -4
Yes. trade period is over I feel like the sea dogs failed by not getting him my feelings of this deadline are bittersweet I assumed you would be more pissed off with your boy Burns sticking around. I would have been bittersweet if we didn't land ED and did nothing else....but rather than the big fish, it allows SJ to add many other parts which I believe was needed moreso.
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Post by Briwhel on Jan 6, 2022 14:38:32 GMT -4
SJ did an overhaul that was badly needed. And the #1 trade chip on the market has absolutely zero chance of haunting them at any point meaning the divisions biggest market is stuck with the biggest expiring asset in the league. Thats a home run to me. Unless you dont like what SJ did otherwise. I’ve said this many times I don’t see the sea dogs being better then the top teams in OHL and especially WHL. Maybe I’m delusional but we will see. I think if you were to add Desnoyers to the new group he puts them relatively close Atleast. This team will struggle with Dufour and Burns being relied on to be the only goal scorers. Dufour-Lawrence-Ansons Francis-Daoust-Burns Lessard-MacDonald-Reynolds Bezeau-Trenholm-Chantler Picard-Crete-Blagdon You are selling Lessard short as a goal scorer. We just added 3 potential PPG forwards.
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Post by Jack Bauer on Jan 6, 2022 14:39:37 GMT -4
SJ did an overhaul that was badly needed. And the #1 trade chip on the market has absolutely zero chance of haunting them at any point meaning the divisions biggest market is stuck with the biggest expiring asset in the league. Thats a home run to me. Unless you dont like what SJ did otherwise. I’ve said this many times I don’t see the sea dogs being better then the top teams in OHL and especially WHL. Maybe I’m delusional but we will see. I think if you were to add Desnoyers to the new group he puts them relatively close Atleast. This team will struggle with Dufour and Burns being relied on to be the only goal scorers. Dufour-Lawrence-Ansons Francis-Daoust-Burns Lessard-MacDonald-Reynolds Bezeau-Trenholm-Chantler Picard-Crete-Blagdon I'd say most see them as harder to play after those moves then they would have been with just adding Desnoyers. Trenholm and Daoust are huge adds.
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Post by nylander on Jan 6, 2022 14:44:07 GMT -4
I’ve said this many times I don’t see the sea dogs being better then the top teams in OHL and especially WHL. Maybe I’m delusional but we will see. I think if you were to add Desnoyers to the new group he puts them relatively close Atleast. This team will struggle with Dufour and Burns being relied on to be the only goal scorers. Dufour-Lawrence-Ansons Francis-Daoust-Burns Lessard-MacDonald-Reynolds Bezeau-Trenholm-Chantler Picard-Crete-Blagdon I'd say most see them as harder to play after those moves then they would have been with just adding Desnoyers. Trenholm and Daoust are huge adds. well obviously but realistically I feel like they could’ve made all of these adds and still picked up Desnoyers. I’m not sure what picks they have left but they could’ve made them into future players.
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Post by filthymitts on Jan 6, 2022 14:49:35 GMT -4
I think the Dogs and TG did great here adding on the fly when it became apparently that ED wasn't going to happen. The team is deep now. Great mix of forwards. They have improved greatly at both ends of the ice. Well done!
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Post by jordo999 on Jan 6, 2022 14:50:06 GMT -4
Definitely a deep Sea Dogs squad, roll 3 lines that can score + a talented blue line and goalie they will be scary. But I don't think SJ runs away with the division either. Bathurst also has 3 solid lines and I'm not trying to be biased but I think Kidney + Lapierre is a tad scarier then D'Aoust + Lawrence imo. And not having to deal with Desnoyers is huge imo. Mind you D'Aoust may come back and absolutely light it up. Charlottown can also run 3 solid lines now (though a tad weaker imo) with a talented back end.
Bathurst and SJ forwards > Charlottetown forwards SJ and Charlottetown D > Bathurst D SJ and Charlottetown goalies > Bathurst goalies
I think if any of these teams go head to head it's a 7 game series and will make for some interesting hockey.
Quebec is still strong but IMO a step behind these 3. Halifax may surprise a bit in the playoffs as well by keeping Desnoyers.
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Post by JEagle on Jan 6, 2022 14:50:29 GMT -4
That is some throw shit at the wall and see if it sticks asset management.
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Post by Jack Bauer on Jan 6, 2022 14:51:07 GMT -4
I'd say most see them as harder to play after those moves then they would have been with just adding Desnoyers. Trenholm and Daoust are huge adds. well obviously but realistically I feel like they could’ve made all of these adds and still picked up Desnoyers. I’m not sure what picks they have left but they could’ve made them into future players. What would have been left? I dont know your assets well enough. Were there 3-4 prime picks/prospects/futures left to be moved?
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Post by Jack Bauer on Jan 6, 2022 14:53:35 GMT -4
That is some throw shit at the wall and see if it sticks asset management. Thats pretty unbelievable. Really shows the value in spending time and effort on a good development path for young goalies and investing high picks in them. Not cheap to acquire a good one when you need one.
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Post by Briwhel on Jan 6, 2022 14:54:04 GMT -4
I'd say most see them as harder to play after those moves then they would have been with just adding Desnoyers. Trenholm and Daoust are huge adds. well obviously but realistically I feel like they could’ve made all of these adds and still picked up Desnoyers. I’m not sure what picks they have left but they could’ve made them into future players. You are assuming that Cam didn't suddenly raise the price on Desnoyers.
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Post by Briwhel on Jan 6, 2022 14:54:37 GMT -4
That is some throw shit at the wall and see if it sticks asset management. Thats pretty unbelievable. Really shows the value in spending time and effort on a good development path for young goalies and investing high picks in them. Not cheap to acquire a good one when you need one. Absolutely the biggest flaw to how we built this cycle.
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Post by j3e4 on Jan 6, 2022 14:54:53 GMT -4
Definitely a deep Sea Dogs squad, roll 3 lines that can score + a talented blue line and goalie they will be scary. But I don't think SJ runs away with the division either. Bathurst also has 3 solid lines and I'm not trying to be biased but I think Kidney + Lapierre is a tad scarier then D'Aoust + Lawrence imo. And not having to deal with Desnoyers is huge imo. Mind you D'Aoust may come back and absolutely light it up. Charlottown can also run 3 solid lines now (though a tad weaker imo) with a talented back end. Bathurst and SJ forwards > Charlottetown forwards SJ and Charlottetown D > Bathurst D SJ and Charlottetown goalies > Bathurst goalies I think if any of these teams go head to head it's a 7 game series and will make for some interesting hockey. Quebec is still strong but IMO a step behind these 3. Halifax may surprise a bit in the playoffs as well by keeping Desnoyers. Neither Bathurst or SJ had much of a chance to catch Charlotterown. Charlottetown just has too big of a lead. Add in the fact that we likely don't play a full 2nd half and it seems even more unlikely.
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Post by jordo999 on Jan 6, 2022 14:57:23 GMT -4
Definitely a deep Sea Dogs squad, roll 3 lines that can score + a talented blue line and goalie they will be scary. But I don't think SJ runs away with the division either. Bathurst also has 3 solid lines and I'm not trying to be biased but I think Kidney + Lapierre is a tad scarier then D'Aoust + Lawrence imo. And not having to deal with Desnoyers is huge imo. Mind you D'Aoust may come back and absolutely light it up. Charlottown can also run 3 solid lines now (though a tad weaker imo) with a talented back end. Bathurst and SJ forwards > Charlottetown forwards SJ and Charlottetown D > Bathurst D SJ and Charlottetown goalies > Bathurst goalies I think if any of these teams go head to head it's a 7 game series and will make for some interesting hockey. Quebec is still strong but IMO a step behind these 3. Halifax may surprise a bit in the playoffs as well by keeping Desnoyers. Neither Bathurst or SJ had much of a chance to catch Charlotterown. Charlottetown just has too big of a lead. Add in the fact that we likely don't play a full 2nd half and it seems even more unlikely. yeah I think it'll likely be a lock for the Isles to finish 1st with Bathurst and SJ fighting for 2nd, I think best case scenario here for either team IS to finish 2nd as they will likely avoid Charlottetown until the 3rd round.
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Post by Captain Obvious on Jan 6, 2022 14:58:24 GMT -4
That is some throw shit at the wall and see if it sticks asset management. Thats pretty unbelievable. Really shows the value in spending time and effort on a good development path for young goalies and investing high picks in them. Not cheap to acquire a good one when you need one. I think the main issue in SJ has been poor team defense, Lemieux Jones and Emond were all considered good goalies but got hung out to dry behind a team that just wanted to score. That's my $0.02
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Post by Jack Bauer on Jan 6, 2022 14:58:38 GMT -4
well obviously but realistically I feel like they could’ve made all of these adds and still picked up Desnoyers. I’m not sure what picks they have left but they could’ve made them into future players. You are assuming that Cam didn't suddenly raise the price on Desnoyers. 100%. He could have thought he was in a position of power but lacking a plan B and was called on his bluff. Which also means acquiring Desnoyers with everyone else would be impossible. I assume this is it for Georgie in terms of a now of never. Hard to come back from it if this does not go well. So any price that could have been met you'd think would have been for a player like Desnoyers.
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