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Post by yesisaiditfirst on Jan 6, 2022 14:59:05 GMT -4
It isn’t BS. Believe the truth or bury your head in the sand, doesn’t change the fact that their relationship is fractured and difficult. And I said if another offer was close he may accept a slightly lesser offer. Slightly. That’s how bad their relationship is. People don’t always do the right thing when ego, and pettiness interfere I stand by my comments. How do you feel about yours? This deal didn’t happen because of ego, pettiness, and immense dislike. Cam tried to give the shaft to Georgie with no time left on the clock, but found no other takers at the eleventh hour. Too bad Russell forgot that he was a professional, and let personal animosity prevent from doing the right thing for the Moosehead franchise. Looks good on him. ** Bobby Smith probably didn't sign off on the trade for that value. If anyone is giving Georgie the shaft its the same guy who always has. Cam is just the messenger. Cam is stuck with the asset they couldn't move because of Bobby's ego. |
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Post by Briwhel on Jan 6, 2022 14:59:45 GMT -4
Neither Bathurst or SJ had much of a chance to catch Charlotterown. Charlottetown just has too big of a lead. Add in the fact that we likely don't play a full 2nd half and it seems even more unlikely. yeah I think it'll likely be a lock for the Isles to finish 1st with Bathurst and SJ fighting for 2nd, I think best case scenario here for either team IS to finish 2nd as they will likely avoid Charlottetown until the 3rd round. 3rd* Quebec will finish 2nd because they are in the other division. Halifax is practically guaranteed to face one of those two in 1st round. |
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Post by jordo999 on Jan 6, 2022 15:03:31 GMT -4
yeah I think it'll likely be a lock for the Isles to finish 1st with Bathurst and SJ fighting for 2nd, I think best case scenario here for either team IS to finish 2nd as they will likely avoid Charlottetown until the 3rd round. 3rd* Quebec will finish 2nd because they are in the other division. Halifax is practically guaranteed to face one of those two in 1st round. is that how that works? I thought Quebec was considered in our division. |
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Post by Judas In My Mind on Jan 6, 2022 15:07:11 GMT -4
Thats pretty unbelievable. Really shows the value in spending time and effort on a good development path for young goalies and investing high picks in them. Not cheap to acquire a good one when you need one. I think the main issue in SJ has been poor team defense, Lemieux Jones and Emond were all considered good goalies but got hung out to dry behind a team that just wanted to score. That's my $0.02 Definitely agree. SJSD defensively has been atrocious and it wouldn't matter who was in net pretty much. Creed Jones though....he just didn't look like he wanted to be here or something. He was terrible in his time here. We would have had to be one of the best defensive teams in the league for him to have produced at an acceptable level. Maybe he just didn't bother trying after seeing how bad the D was in front of him. Dunno. |
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Post by Briwhel on Jan 6, 2022 15:09:03 GMT -4
I think the main issue in SJ has been poor team defense, Lemieux Jones and Emond were all considered good goalies but got hung out to dry behind a team that just wanted to score. That's my $0.02 Definitely agree. SJSD defensively has been atrocious and it wouldn't matter who was in net pretty much. Creed Jones though....he just didn't look like he wanted to be here or something. He was terrible in his time here. We would have had to be one of the best defensive teams in the league for him to have produced at an acceptable level. Maybe he just didn't bother trying after seeing how bad the D was in front of him. Dunno. I think his problem was quarantining every couple of weeks. He did 4 quarantines in half a damn season. |
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Post by lirette on Jan 6, 2022 15:11:18 GMT -4
What happens with Innis ? Waivers? No reason a player like him couldnt finish the season on a mid pack team.
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Post by Briwhel on Jan 6, 2022 15:12:38 GMT -4
What happens with Innis ? Waivers? No reason a player like him couldnt finish the season on a mid pack team. Per JP Plante, Inniss was placed on waivers. |
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Post by sc74 on Jan 6, 2022 15:15:15 GMT -4
yeah I think it'll likely be a lock for the Isles to finish 1st with Bathurst and SJ fighting for 2nd, I think best case scenario here for either team IS to finish 2nd as they will likely avoid Charlottetown until the 3rd round. 3rd* Quebec will finish 2nd because they are in the other division. Halifax is practically guaranteed to face one of those two in 1st round. Quebec is behind Charlottetown, Bathurst and Saint John in terms of roster but the Maritimes teams will face each other a lot while Quebec will face Baie-Comeau, Chicoutimi and Rimouski who were all sellers. I wouldn't be surprised to see Quebec get ahead because of that. They're only 4 points behind Charlottetown with a game in hand. |
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Post by Captain Obvious on Jan 6, 2022 15:16:03 GMT -4
Definitely agree. SJSD defensively has been atrocious and it wouldn't matter who was in net pretty much. Creed Jones though....he just didn't look like he wanted to be here or something. He was terrible in his time here. We would have had to be one of the best defensive teams in the league for him to have produced at an acceptable level. Maybe he just didn't bother trying after seeing how bad the D was in front of him. Dunno. I think his problem was quarantining every couple of weeks. He did 4 quarantines in half a damn season. Likely impacted his conditionning and mental aspect as well. |
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Post by Briwhel on Jan 6, 2022 15:16:14 GMT -4
3rd* Quebec will finish 2nd because they are in the other division. Halifax is practically guaranteed to face one of those two in 1st round. Quebec is behind Charlottetown, Bathurst and Saint John in terms of roster but the Maritimes teams will face each other a lot while Quebec will face Baie-Comeau, Chicoutimi and Rimouski who were all sellers. I wouldn't be surprised to see Quebec get ahead because of that. They're only 4 points behind Charlottetown with a game in hand. That may be true. I was speaking to the fact that neither Bathurst nor SJ has a realistic shot at moving above 3. |
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Post by Judas In My Mind on Jan 6, 2022 15:21:55 GMT -4
I dont know what the line combos will be after all these additions but is anyone else afraid this too will get screwed up? Meaning I hope they pick their top 6 and stick with it and let chemistry develop.
We seem to have a history lately of getting a bunch of guys all wanting top end minutes and instead of choosing who deserves those minutes and running with it, we shuffle guys in and out of the top six and change our lines and nobody ever seems to look completely in sync out there.
In the end we then underachieve and look disorganized and have an entire group of guys pissed off over ice time.
I say this mainly because when you look at what we paid to get them, Daoust, Lessard and Ansons all likely should be in the top six. Then we have Francis and Dufour who certainly would be top six. That means one of Lawrence or Burns is now looking at being on the third line. To me, it is what it is and whoever is demoted needs to accept it. I can see us though trying to shuffle guys in and out of the top six trying to keep everyone happy, which IMO, would be a mistake.
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Post by sc74 on Jan 6, 2022 15:22:55 GMT -4
3rd* Quebec will finish 2nd because they are in the other division. Halifax is practically guaranteed to face one of those two in 1st round. is that how that works? I thought Quebec was considered in our division. There are two conferences and four divisions. The leaders of the East and Maritimes divisions finish 1-2 in the Eastern Conference. The first and second rounds of the playoffs are played within your confenrence so as of now, first round would be: 8 Chicoutimi vs 1 Charlottetown 7 Saint John vs Quebec 6 Bathurst vs 3 Halifax 5 Moncton vs 4 Rimouski 8 Baie-Comeau vs 1 Sherbrooke 7 Val-d'Or vs 2 Gatineau 6 Victoriaville vs 3 Shawinigan 5 Drummondville vs 4 Blainville-Boisbriand Of course standings will change a lot! |
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Post by Judas In My Mind on Jan 6, 2022 15:24:40 GMT -4
I think his problem was quarantining every couple of weeks. He did 4 quarantines in half a damn season. Likely impacted his conditionning and mental aspect as well. Good points by you both. I forgot about all that quarantining he did. He was justifiably shitty in his time here then, but I dont think our defense could have really helped him much unless they were a complete shutdown unit. He just was not on his game in SJ at all. |
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Post by jordo999 on Jan 6, 2022 15:27:03 GMT -4
is that how that works? I thought Quebec was considered in our division. There are two conferences and four divisions. The leaders of the East and Maritimes divisions finish 1-2 in the Eastern Conference. The first and second rounds of the playoffs are played within your confenrence so as of now, first round would be: 8 Chicoutimi vs 1 Charlottetown 7 Saint John vs Quebec 6 Bathurst vs 3 Halifax 5 Moncton vs 4 Rimouski 8 Baie-Comeau vs 1 Sherbrooke 7 Val-d'Or vs 2 Gatineau 6 Victoriaville vs 3 Shawinigan 5 Drummondville vs 4 Blainville-Boisbriand Of course standings will change a lot! ohhh right, I forgot how it would mashup, thanks |
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Post by Briwhel on Jan 6, 2022 15:27:52 GMT -4
I dont know what the line combos will be after all these additions but is anyone else afraid this too will get screwed up? Meaning I hope they pick their top 6 and stick with it and let chemistry develop. We seem to have a history lately of getting a bunch of guys all wanting top end minutes and instead of choosing who deserves those minutes and running with it, we shuffle guys in and out of the top six and change our lines and nobody ever seems to look completely in sync out there. In the end we then underachieve and look disorganized and have an entire group of guys pissed off over ice time. I say this mainly because when you look at what we paid to get them, Daoust, Lessard and Ansons all likely should be in the top six. Then we have Francis and Dufour who certainly would be top six. That means one of Lawrence or Burns is now looking at being on the third line. To me, it is what it is and whoever is demoted needs to accept it. I can see us though trying to shuffle guys in and out of the top six trying to keep everyone happy, which IMO, would be a mistake. Honestly, it's pretty much a given that the 7th guy is getting PP ice. And our 3rd line still likely has Reynolds and one of Cam or Trenholm (who has 10 ES points playing on Cape Breton's 2nd line in 28GP). IMO, Reynolds and Burns can work together well if their linemate is willing to be the hard worker. |
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