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Post by Naomi on Jun 5, 2022 21:37:17 GMT -4
How can those officials honestly leave tonight, proud of themselves and think "yeah I did good tonight".
They should be ashamed of themselves. If they had any decency they'd resign from the league.
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Post by sc74 on Jun 5, 2022 21:45:58 GMT -4
Shawinigan started outplaying Charlottetown when the Bourque line came back every two shifts. This is what happened against Quebec. The Remparts would outplay them most of the game but couldn't take a huge lead. Then Bourque's line came back often and the game went Shawinigan's way. Bourque and Bourgault seem to have a lot of energy. They missed most of the season. also not to be misled by George Matthews comment on the Islander broadcast that "Quebec kept those two in check most of the series" The games in that series were all close except game 5 when Shawinigan broke loose, and any series where Mavrik Bourque steals it from you (game 4 in OT when a Quebec goal would have won the series for Quebec)---- no they didn't really hold them in check. Those players just being there need to be addressed. My fear with back to back at home facing a team on a little roll it can turn bad in a span of 27 hours. And it did. I know people in the organization read this. Don't let the players buy the theory that the refs are out for them. Don't let anyone fall back on an excuse for the loss. Need more goals. Need more PPG need fewer PPG for them. Need prevent their big guys from determining the game. Islander are a pretty good road team. That's the narrative. Go get them. Game 5 Shawinigan broke loose? You’re serious? That was another close game. Quebec did hold them in check compared to the Islanders, that’s for sure. Bourque only had one assist on the PP after two games and that was on a faceoff win. He has 3 goals and 3 assists in two games so far against the Islanders.
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Post by braccoloo on Jun 5, 2022 21:57:31 GMT -4
Im not going to get wrapped up in the outcome. I don't like the situation but it is what it is at this point.
When it comes to the reffing, why doesn't the CHL move refs from league to league for the finals? I'm sure these issues arise in the WHL and OHL as well. Nobody would have type of favoritism (sure it's possible) and then we wouldn't have situations like this that plague what could be a great final series in each league.
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Post by L'il Boy on Jun 5, 2022 22:02:17 GMT -4
also not to be misled by George Matthews comment on the Islander broadcast that "Quebec kept those two in check most of the series" The games in that series were all close except game 5 when Shawinigan broke loose, and any series where Mavrik Bourque steals it from you (game 4 in OT when a Quebec goal would have won the series for Quebec)---- no they didn't really hold them in check. Those players just being there need to be addressed. My fear with back to back at home facing a team on a little roll it can turn bad in a span of 27 hours. And it did. I know people in the organization read this. Don't let the players buy the theory that the refs are out for them. Don't let anyone fall back on an excuse for the loss. Need more goals. Need more PPG need fewer PPG for them. Need prevent their big guys from determining the game. Islander are a pretty good road team. That's the narrative. Go get them. Game 5 Shawinigan broke loose? You’re serious? That was another close game. Quebec did hold them in check compared to the Islanders, that’s for sure. Bourque only had one assist on the PP after two games and that was on a faceoff win. He has 3 goals and 3 assists in two games so far against the Islanders. It's not that the Islanders haven't been effective against either of Bourgault or Bourque. Bourque has 1 goal and one assist at even strength...Bourgault has 2 goals. Everything else has been on the PP. Stay out of the box and you can shut them down.
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Post by Naomi on Jun 5, 2022 22:05:35 GMT -4
Im not going to get wrapped up in the outcome. I don't like the situation but it is what it is at this point. When it comes to the reffing, why doesn't the CHL move refs from league to league for the finals? I'm sure these issues arise in the WHL and OHL as well. Nobody would have type of favoritism (sure it's possible) and then we wouldn't have situations like this that plague what could be a great final series in each league. I was actually saying this with my dad after the game. It's worth the extra money to do. Eliminate any chance of bribes and favoritism.
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Post by ysj28 on Jun 5, 2022 22:10:19 GMT -4
The QMJHL rule reads:
A minor penalty shall be assessed for delay of game - face off violation to a player taking the face off who:
(i) Attempts to win the face-off by batting the puck with their hand
NOTE: The two players involved in the actual face-off (the centers) are not permitted to play the puck with their hand without incurring a penalty under this rule until such time as a third player (from either team) has at least touched the puck. Once the face-off is deemed complete (and a winner of the face-off is clear) hand passes shall be enforced as per Rule 79 Hand Pass.
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Post by dutchinc on Jun 5, 2022 22:19:04 GMT -4
The QMJHL rule reads: A minor penalty shall be assessed for delay of game - face off violation to a player taking the face off who: (i) Attempts to win the face-off by batting the puck with their hand NOTE: The two players involved in the actual face-off (the centers) are not permitted to play the puck with their hand without incurring a penalty under this rule until such time as a third player (from either team) has at least touched the puck. Once the face-off is deemed complete (and a winner of the face-off is clear) hand passes shall be enforced as per Rule 79 Hand Pass. The puck wasn’t even on the ice, it flipped up and bobbled in his torso/arm/glove area as he skated away from the puck drop. In the NEUTRAL zone I might add.
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Post by Naomi on Jun 5, 2022 22:22:32 GMT -4
The QMJHL rule reads: A minor penalty shall be assessed for delay of game - face off violation to a player taking the face off who: (i) Attempts to win the face-off by batting the puck with their hand NOTE: The two players involved in the actual face-off (the centers) are not permitted to play the puck with their hand without incurring a penalty under this rule until such time as a third player (from either team) has at least touched the puck. Once the face-off is deemed complete (and a winner of the face-off is clear) hand passes shall be enforced as per Rule 79 Hand Pass. Two issues though. It never actually happened, and when it does, they never call it. They always just redo the face-off. If it did happen, it's still a cheap penalty to call that late in the finals.
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Post by ysj28 on Jun 5, 2022 22:35:30 GMT -4
The QMJHL rule reads: A minor penalty shall be assessed for delay of game - face off violation to a player taking the face off who: (i) Attempts to win the face-off by batting the puck with their hand NOTE: The two players involved in the actual face-off (the centers) are not permitted to play the puck with their hand without incurring a penalty under this rule until such time as a third player (from either team) has at least touched the puck. Once the face-off is deemed complete (and a winner of the face-off is clear) hand passes shall be enforced as per Rule 79 Hand Pass. Two issues though. It never actually happened, and when it does, they never call it. They always just redo the face-off. If it did happen, it's still a cheap penalty to call that late in the finals. I just saw the video replay of the call.. from what I see the puck is dropped and comes back up (presumably hitting the two centers sticks) Simoneau grabs it with his left hand, turns slightly, throws it ahead and plays it.
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Post by jordo999 on Jun 6, 2022 0:04:08 GMT -4
The maritimes refs have been awful for at least 3/4 of this season…guess it’s still continuing..
Heartbreaker..
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Post by scotiahockey on Jun 6, 2022 1:00:52 GMT -4
Two issues though. It never actually happened, and when it does, they never call it. They always just redo the face-off. If it did happen, it's still a cheap penalty to call that late in the finals. I just saw the video replay of the call.. from what I see the puck is dropped and comes back up (presumably hitting the two centers sticks) Simoneau grabs it with his left hand, turns slightly, throws it ahead and plays it. It’s a penalty by the way the rule is written… is it a penalty you want to see called at that point in the game? No but it seems to me like the right call was made.
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Post by WHEELsnipePARTY on Jun 6, 2022 4:15:57 GMT -4
I could understand making the call if he fell on it and then used his hand but it literally bounced up in the air as he was skating the other way and 3/4 officials are looking at it and don’t call it but the one that loves to be the show does so it’s not all that surprising
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Post by countryboy on Jun 6, 2022 5:06:25 GMT -4
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Post by switchback on Jun 6, 2022 5:11:12 GMT -4
Still gutted about this loss the players worked their balls off only to get burned like that is sad.. the refs let Shawinigan hold and make picks that weren’t called for interference all game and to call that is complete bullshit.. like I said Matt Hicks thinks he’s a hero out there. I hope he’s fired from the league and never gets paid to do a game in any league ever again.
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Post by howitzer on Jun 6, 2022 5:16:15 GMT -4
Isn't Matt Hicks the guy who tore the logo right out of the ice leaving like a 1/2 inch rut few years back? He's building quite the legacy.
You guys can come back from this. You're the better team.
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