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Post by jordo999 on Jul 25, 2022 11:42:57 GMT -4
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Post by Jack Bauer on Jul 25, 2022 14:37:12 GMT -4
He will continue to say that until he puts together plans for an arena in Quebec on Montreals South Shore. He bought the team knowing it would be years before he gets an arena built in Quebec. So why say anything otherwise when the plan is to just hope to lose as little as possible until that happens?
The RDS article from before he was announced as owner lays it all out if you read between the lines a bit.
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Post by frogmorton2 on Jul 26, 2022 9:40:31 GMT -4
Shame that the Titan are destined to leave. I feel for all the fans living their and supporting the team, to have it moved without having a chance to stop it really. If the Titan move in 2028 (random example year), does Bathurst get a Q team again? Or does another team go somewhere else in the Maritimes (Fredericton, Turo, Summerside,  ??) or even into New Hampshire/Maine? |
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Post by jimmy on Jul 26, 2022 10:02:56 GMT -4
He will continue to say that until he puts together plans for an arena in Quebec on Montreals South Shore. He bought the team knowing it would be years before he gets an arena built in Quebec. So why say anything otherwise when the plan is to just hope to lose as little as possible until that happens? The RDS article from before he was announced as owner lays it all out if you read between the lines a bit. Agreed - non-story IMO. No owner is ever going to come out and say they hope to leave in X amount of time. If and when the team leaves, it will only be confirmed by ownership shortly before or after the final home game has been played. |
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Post by Jack Bauer on Jul 26, 2022 10:06:54 GMT -4
Shame that the Titan are destined to leave. I feel for all the fans living their and supporting the team, to have it moved without having a chance to stop it really. If the Titan move in 2028 (random example year), does Bathurst get a Q team again? Or does another team go somewhere else in the Maritimes (Fredericton, Turo, Summerside, ??) or even into New Hampshire/Maine? No is the easy answer. No other Maritime market can support a team. The rinks are too small and the communities will never be big enough to have build a $40 or $50 million 5,000 seat rink. Northeast US always a possibility and eventually the league will find somewhere to go to and give it another try. But the Maritimes are not going to see another team after Bathurst goes. |
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Post by Captain Obvious on Jul 26, 2022 10:53:43 GMT -4
Shame that the Titan are destined to leave. I feel for all the fans living their and supporting the team, to have it moved without having a chance to stop it really. If the Titan move in 2028 (random example year), does Bathurst get a Q team again? Or does another team go somewhere else in the Maritimes (Fredericton, Turo, Summerside, ??) or even into New Hampshire/Maine? No is the easy answer. No other Maritime market can support a team. The rinks are too small and the communities will never be big enough to have build a $40 or $50 million 5,000 seat rink. Northeast US always a possibility and eventually the league will find somewhere to go to and give it another try. But the Maritimes are not going to see another team after Bathurst goes. I would not be surprised if they tried to put a team in Edmundston, based on location(close to most Que teams) and the success of Jr.A. |
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Post by jimmy on Jul 26, 2022 11:54:33 GMT -4
Shame that the Titan are destined to leave. I feel for all the fans living their and supporting the team, to have it moved without having a chance to stop it really. If the Titan move in 2028 (random example year), does Bathurst get a Q team again? Or does another team go somewhere else in the Maritimes (Fredericton, Turo, Summerside, ??) or even into New Hampshire/Maine? No is the easy answer. No other Maritime market can support a team. The rinks are too small and the communities will never be big enough to have build a $40 or $50 million 5,000 seat rink. Northeast US always a possibility and eventually the league will find somewhere to go to and give it another try. But the Maritimes are not going to see another team after Bathurst goes. Next time they try the Northeast US, I think they need to try with multiple teams ... minimum two and perhaps as many as four to have some built in rivalries, buzz, and means to keep travel costs reasonable. But I don't think there is any strong demand for the product in that region, and I don't see it happening in the short to mid-term. Fredericton feels like it could happen some day, but likely only when the time comes to replace the Aitken Centre. Edmundston, as Captain Obvious suggests - I could see someone wanting to try it, but it would be changing 4 quarters for a dollar - best case it is the equivalent of a Bathurst/Baie-Comeau/Val d'Or type market. I imagine St. John's will come along at some point, probably once the Growlers run their course ... |
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Post by scotiahockey on Jul 26, 2022 12:30:03 GMT -4
No is the easy answer. No other Maritime market can support a team. The rinks are too small and the communities will never be big enough to have build a $40 or $50 million 5,000 seat rink. Northeast US always a possibility and eventually the league will find somewhere to go to and give it another try. But the Maritimes are not going to see another team after Bathurst goes. Next time they try the Northeast US, I think they need to try with multiple teams ... minimum two and perhaps as many as four to have some built in rivalries, buzz, and means to keep travel costs reasonable. But I don't think there is any strong demand for the product in that region, and I don't see it happening in the short to mid-term. Fredericton feels like it could happen some day, but likely only when the time comes to replace the Aitken Centre. Edmundston, as Captain Obvious suggests - I could see someone wanting to try it, but it would be changing 4 quarters for a dollar - best case it is the equivalent of a Bathurst/Baie-Comeau/Val d'Or type market. I imagine St. John's will come along at some point, probably once the Growlers run their course ... The league is already watered down enough, there’s really not room to add 4 teams to the US unless they can make roots in that market and draw in talent from a NCAA hotbed.. now maybe relocation works if you could relocate a couple teams there but definitely not through expansion. The depth of the league just isn’t there. Fredericton seems interesting but it’s a very UNB town.. can they draw the 2500+ out to the Q on a regular basis? Especially when there’s going to be down years? Currently their hockey product doesn’t experience that. St. John’s I agree will probably be back in the fold, it’s logistically a bit of a pain in the ass so they have to figure that out but I feel like the league needs a team in Newfoundland. |
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Post by Jack Bauer on Jul 26, 2022 14:44:04 GMT -4
St. John's is an odd market. The people love thinking they're watching pro hockey no matter what level and a lot of those same people view CHL as high school kids no matter how many high end players pass through the league.
I'll never understand why they give ECHL and other leagues huge support yet look down on the CHL.
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Post by Jack Bauer on Jul 26, 2022 14:46:21 GMT -4
No is the easy answer. No other Maritime market can support a team. The rinks are too small and the communities will never be big enough to have build a $40 or $50 million 5,000 seat rink. Northeast US always a possibility and eventually the league will find somewhere to go to and give it another try. But the Maritimes are not going to see another team after Bathurst goes. I would not be surprised if they tried to put a team in Edmundston, based on location(close to most Que teams) and the success of Jr.A. I think its been discussed to death why Edmundston isn't a Q market. Jr. A success doesnt translate to the Q in terms of a market. Might as well stay in Bathurst or give it another team...at least there's more money to make during the peak years. |
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Post by Naomi on Jul 26, 2022 15:04:44 GMT -4
What about Summerside? I know it was discussed when Lewiston was on the move. A lot has changed since then and PEI may be able to support a second team. Keep in mind, they're close to an hour apart, I can't see it eating into the Islanders revenue too badly.
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Post by jimmy on Jul 26, 2022 15:29:29 GMT -4
What about Summerside? I know it was discussed when Lewiston was on the move. A lot has changed since then and PEI may be able to support a second team. Keep in mind, they're close to an hour apart, I can't see it eating into the Islanders revenue too badly. I would say Summerside is in the same boat as Edmundston, with the added complication of being close to Charlottetown and probably viewed as a threat to their fan base - best case, it is a fringe small market for the league that would be borderline viable. |
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Post by MikeC on Jul 26, 2022 16:32:49 GMT -4
I think a 2nd team in the HRM would have a better chance for success than a team going to any other open market in the Maritimes.
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Post by hal on Jul 26, 2022 16:37:04 GMT -4
Next time they try the Northeast US, I think they need to try with multiple teams ... minimum two and perhaps as many as four to have some built in rivalries, buzz, and means to keep travel costs reasonable. But I don't think there is any strong demand for the product in that region, and I don't see it happening in the short to mid-term. Fredericton feels like it could happen some day, but likely only when the time comes to replace the Aitken Centre. Edmundston, as Captain Obvious suggests - I could see someone wanting to try it, but it would be changing 4 quarters for a dollar - best case it is the equivalent of a Bathurst/Baie-Comeau/Val d'Or type market. I imagine St. John's will come along at some point, probably once the Growlers run their course ... The league is already watered down enough, there’s really not room to add 4 teams to the US unless they can make roots in that market and draw in talent from a NCAA hotbed.. now maybe relocation works if you could relocate a couple teams there but definitely not through expansion. The depth of the league just isn’t there. Fredericton seems interesting but it’s a very UNB town.. can they draw the 2500+ out to the Q on a regular basis? Especially when there’s going to be down years? Currently their hockey product doesn’t experience that. St. John’s I agree will probably be back in the fold, it’s logistically a bit of a pain in the ass so they have to figure that out but I feel like the league needs a team in Newfoundland. Maybe Cornerbrook ? |
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Post by jordo999 on Jul 26, 2022 21:06:11 GMT -4
He will continue to say that until he puts together plans for an arena in Quebec on Montreals South Shore. He bought the team knowing it would be years before he gets an arena built in Quebec. So why say anything otherwise when the plan is to just hope to lose as little as possible until that happens? The RDS article from before he was announced as owner lays it all out if you read between the lines a bit. yeah that's fair. At first it seemed we would only have about 3 seasons left, now it's more likely 5. I'm just wondering where exactly would be the ideal move in Quebec as a lot of the places considered like Longueil are super close to some of the Quebec teams already and within travelling distance (50-100km). I just hope during this time we see a couple of good seasons and some more high end talent come through our team like Kidney, Dobson, Morand, etc. and go out with a bang. Writing has been on the wall for a long time sadly. And as mentioned before the Morrissette era really ruined the future of this team. Even when new management took over they still couldn't bring all those same dedicated fans back. definitely lots of great memories at that rink |
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??) or even into New Hampshire/Maine?
