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Post by WHEELsnipePARTY on Apr 25, 2023 17:45:53 GMT -4
rangers also don’t technically have to sign barbashev till after next season
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Post by lirette on Apr 25, 2023 18:38:49 GMT -4
rangers also don’t technically have to sign barbashev till after next season It seems unlikely but I would use 2 slots on Barbashev in a heartbeat given the unlikelihood of actually getting 2 impact euros. |
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Post by WHEELsnipePARTY on Apr 25, 2023 21:32:13 GMT -4
rangers also don’t technically have to sign barbashev till after next season It seems unlikely but I would use 2 slots on Barbashev in a heartbeat given the unlikelihood of actually getting 2 impact euros. Agreed, imo if barbashev was to be back. With the way Plandowski played after coming here(If the wings don’t sign him either and put him in the A) would easily be another 20. I think the 3rd spot comes down to if there’s a coaching change or not tbh. Lacroix probably prefers Daniel to trenholm who might have more value in a trade anyway and another coach might think differently |
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Post by lirette on Apr 25, 2023 21:41:24 GMT -4
It seems unlikely but I would use 2 slots on Barbashev in a heartbeat given the unlikelihood of actually getting 2 impact euros. Agreed, imo if barbashev was to be back. With the way Plandowski played after coming here(If the wings don’t sign him either and put him in the A) would easily be another 20. I think the 3rd spot comes down to if there’s a coaching change or not tbh. Lacroix probably prefers Daniel to trenholm who might have more value in a trade anyway and another coach might think differently Daniel was basically invisible during the playoffs. His skating really holds him back and he has poor discipline. They've sunk a lot of cost into Trenholm and Ritchie seems to like him. I'd imagine they are hoping he takes another step forward next season and try and stick with him in the first half, obviously it'd be weird to trade your Captain though, but it's not like he's Christian Gaudet heart and soul type guy. He's done well for where he was drafted though. I really don't want them moving assets for another 20 at this point. |
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Post by WHEELsnipePARTY on Apr 25, 2023 21:55:41 GMT -4
Agreed, imo if barbashev was to be back. With the way Plandowski played after coming here(If the wings don’t sign him either and put him in the A) would easily be another 20. I think the 3rd spot comes down to if there’s a coaching change or not tbh. Lacroix probably prefers Daniel to trenholm who might have more value in a trade anyway and another coach might think differently Daniel was basically invisible during the playoffs. His skating really holds him back and he has poor discipline. They've sunk a lot of cost into Trenholm and Ritchie seems to like him. I'd imagine they are hoping he takes another step forward next season and try and stick with him in the first half, obviously it'd be weird to trade your Captain though, but it's not like he's Christian Gaudet heart and soul type guy. He's done well for where he was drafted though. I really don't want them moving assets for another 20 at this point. That’s also fair, hopefully next season we can at least start off with a top line of barbashev and loshing and likely lounsbury up the middle unless they can find a euro that’ll bring an impact right away but id expect it to be a 17 year old that’ll hopefully be an impact player at 19 |
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Post by Penguins23® on Apr 26, 2023 6:46:37 GMT -4
Daniel was basically invisible during the playoffs. His skating really holds him back and he has poor discipline. They've sunk a lot of cost into Trenholm and Ritchie seems to like him. I'd imagine they are hoping he takes another step forward next season and try and stick with him in the first half, obviously it'd be weird to trade your Captain though, but it's not like he's Christian Gaudet heart and soul type guy. He's done well for where he was drafted though. I really don't want them moving assets for another 20 at this point. That’s also fair, hopefully next season we can at least start off with a top line of barbashev and loshing and likely lounsbury up the middle unless they can find a euro that’ll bring an impact right away but id expect it to be a 17 year old that’ll hopefully be an impact player at 19 If there's an 18 year old out there that can be an impact at 19 then that would be great as well considering they're hoping to go for it then. |
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Post by Captain Obvious on Apr 26, 2023 7:34:07 GMT -4
rangers also don’t technically have to sign barbashev till after next season They can sign him to an AHL deal like Montreal did with Pinard Dube and Simoneau. |
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Post by hockeyfanatic on Apr 26, 2023 10:19:15 GMT -4
I would love to see us go for it in 2025 , but looking at the roster we have now , 2026 looks more realistic, no offence to the players but we would be lucky to be a .500 club next year and a contender the next year ? the core is too old (not much trade value also), not enough 17 year old players, Morin will probably be gone as well as loshing.
We have some good support players but not enough scoring or a mobile D-core besides Morin. I like the upside AFG and grenier bring and they seem to be getting better and had a lot of experience this year but I think losing Hamel will have a big impact also.
We had better draft another Pelletier/ L'Heureux and Morin this year if we have a hope to go for it in 2026 not 2025 IMO . I hope Moncton moves at least one of their first round picks at this years draft to get an Impact 17/18 year old.
The Wildcats should have traded for Doucet/Lawrence looking at the cost we could have gone for it this year instead Halifax pulled the trigger first.
The only reason to go for it in 2025 would be knowing that your team was hosting the Memorial Cup.
Does anyone really believe that the QMJHL will allow another Maritime team to host the cup after the last 2 were in Halifax and St. John , not trying to be negative but I see a team from Quebec getting the next one. I believe that's why we were given the CHL top prospects game in 2024
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Post by Penguins23® on Apr 26, 2023 11:23:45 GMT -4
I would love to see us go for it in 2025 , but looking at the roster we have now , 2026 looks more realistic, no offence to the players but we would be lucky to be a .500 club next year and a contender the next year ? the core is too old (not much trade value also), not enough 17 year old players, Morin will probably be gone as well as loshing. We have some good support players but not enough scoring or a mobile D-core besides Morin. I like the upside AFG and grenier bring and they seem to be getting better and had a lot of experience this year but I think losing Hamel will have a big impact also. We had better draft another Pelletier/ L'Heureux and Morin this year if we have a hope to go for it in 2026 not 2025 IMO . I hope Moncton moves at least one of their first round picks at this years draft to get an Impact 17/18 year old. The Wildcats should have traded for Doucet/Lawrence looking at the cost we could have gone for it this year instead Halifax pulled the trigger first. The only reason to go for it in 2025 would be knowing that your team was hosting the Memorial Cup. Does anyone really believe that the QMJHL will allow another Maritime team to host the cup after the last 2 were in Halifax and St. John , not trying to be negative but I see a team from Quebec getting the next one. I believe that's why we were given the CHL top prospects game in 2024 Your post is confusing. How can you say we can't contend in 2025 but think we could have gone for it this year? What elite players did we have this year? Our vets were decent but nothing game breaking. Odds of Morin being here in 2025 must be 99%. I'm his biggest fan but if Brandt Clarke was sent back then surely Morin will be as well. Loshing has the possibility of being gone but he's small and currently undrafted so at the moment it's more likely that he's here than not. Obviously the Wildcats to be smart and lucky but it's not unreasonable to assume that with our 3 first round picks, towards the 2025 team, we could get a very impactful player, an impactful player and a good player. Heck, Morin was drafted 2 years ago in the second round. A quick look at the draft 2 years ago shows 3 out of the top 6 guys playing huge roles for the final 4 teams. Gauthier in Sherbooke Mackinnon and Cataford in Halifax You do make a great poing on the possibility of Moncton not hosting but with or without it, Morin at 19 should be the top D in the league. Loshing if he's back should be one of the best forwards in the league. Why not build around that? |
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Post by Captain Obvious on Apr 26, 2023 11:38:05 GMT -4
I would love to see us go for it in 2025 , but looking at the roster we have now , 2026 looks more realistic, no offence to the players but we would be lucky to be a .500 club next year and a contender the next year ? the core is too old (not much trade value also), not enough 17 year old players, Morin will probably be gone as well as loshing. We have some good support players but not enough scoring or a mobile D-core besides Morin. I like the upside AFG and grenier bring and they seem to be getting better and had a lot of experience this year but I think losing Hamel will have a big impact also. We had better draft another Pelletier/ L'Heureux and Morin this year if we have a hope to go for it in 2026 not 2025 IMO . I hope Moncton moves at least one of their first round picks at this years draft to get an Impact 17/18 year old. The Wildcats should have traded for Doucet/Lawrence looking at the cost we could have gone for it this year instead Halifax pulled the trigger first. The only reason to go for it in 2025 would be knowing that your team was hosting the Memorial Cup. Does anyone really believe that the QMJHL will allow another Maritime team to host the cup after the last 2 were in Halifax and St. John , not trying to be negative but I see a team from Quebec getting the next one. I believe that's why we were given the CHL top prospects game in 2024 Your post is confusing. How can you say we can't contend in 2025 but think we could have gone for it this year? What elite players did we have this year? Our vets were decent but nothing game breaking. Odds of Morin being here in 2025 must be 99%. I'm his biggest fan but if Brandt Clarke was sent back then surely Morin will be as well. Loshing has the possibility of being gone but he's small and currently undrafted so at the moment it's more likely that he's here than not. Obviously the Wildcats to be smart and lucky but it's not unreasonable to assume that with our 3 first round picks, towards the 2025 team, we could get a very impactful player, an impactful player and a good player. Heck, Morin was drafted 2 years ago in the second round. A quick look at the draft 2 years ago shows 3 out of the top 6 guys playing huge roles for the final 4 teams. Gauthier in Sherbooke Mackinnon and Cataford in Halifax You do make a great poing on the possibility of Moncton not hosting but with or without it, Morin at 19 should be the top D in the league. Loshing if he's back should be one of the best forwards in the league. Why not build around that? I would plan on hosting in 2025, but not go all in on it, use the picks, no shortcuts, get two good young(17/18) Euros and let the current crop of of 2005 and 2006's play. Having good young players developing gives you the option of loading up in December 2024 or waiting a year and maybe moving Morin for a haul. Unfortunately the cupboards are still recovering from the 19-20 run derailed by Covid. With patience they should be in a very good spot in 24-25. |
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Post by lirette on Apr 26, 2023 12:31:44 GMT -4
I would love to see us go for it in 2025 , but looking at the roster we have now , 2026 looks more realistic, no offence to the players but we would be lucky to be a .500 club next year and a contender the next year ? the core is too old (not much trade value also), not enough 17 year old players, Morin will probably be gone as well as loshing. We have some good support players but not enough scoring or a mobile D-core besides Morin. I like the upside AFG and grenier bring and they seem to be getting better and had a lot of experience this year but I think losing Hamel will have a big impact also. We had better draft another Pelletier/ L'Heureux and Morin this year if we have a hope to go for it in 2026 not 2025 IMO . I hope Moncton moves at least one of their first round picks at this years draft to get an Impact 17/18 year old. The Wildcats should have traded for Doucet/Lawrence looking at the cost we could have gone for it this year instead Halifax pulled the trigger first. The only reason to go for it in 2025 would be knowing that your team was hosting the Memorial Cup. Does anyone really believe that the QMJHL will allow another Maritime team to host the cup after the last 2 were in Halifax and St. John , not trying to be negative but I see a team from Quebec getting the next one. I believe that's why we were given the CHL top prospects game in 2024 This team had no chance to contend this season. Their depth isn't anywhere close to Gat/SHE/Que/Halifax nor did they have the assets to make moves to get there. Why would Morin be gone? Morin in the NHL at 19 would be very unlikely. To me you always build your run around your star players being 19/20 in 2024-25 you plan for something like this. 2 years a lot can happen in junior hockey. Keep in mind there will likely be 2-3 trades for veteran players between now and then and new euros added. They need to add 1-2 top 6 guys and a top pairing defenseman. Similar to Sherbrooke who added Melanson/Brabanec/Gaudet Loshing-Trade-2023 1st Trade-Lounsbury-Euro Auger-Smith-Mercier McPhee/Sampson/Legare/Deslauriers/Dumais Morin-Trade AGF/Grenier 2023 1st/Euro Steinman young backup If you want an example, take a look at Sherbrookes roster right now. They only have 5 players that were on the team 2 years ago. |
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Post by catzfans on Apr 26, 2023 13:56:50 GMT -4
If we can get an American to report Cornforth/Eiserman it would expedite the rebuild too
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Post by Captain Obvious on Apr 26, 2023 14:10:52 GMT -4
If we can get an American to report Cornforth/Eiserman it would expedite the rebuild too Eiserman is very unlikely to ever play in the Q and Cornforth doesn't move the needle a lot. |
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Post by joehockey on Apr 26, 2023 14:30:42 GMT -4
If we can get an American to report Cornforth/Eiserman it would expedite the rebuild too Unfortunately, it seems unlikely either will ever play for the cats. Hopefully, they can convince one that they draft this year to show. |
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Post by hockeyfanatic on Apr 26, 2023 16:10:32 GMT -4
about the wildcats coaching situation, would Mario Pouliout be a consideration ? It seems that a coach with back to back Memorial Cups would be on any teams list ? is there something I'm missing ? does he have a history or something , not very familiar with the history of the Q very well . I'm not trying to bash anyone or insult anyone ! Thanks
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