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Post by Captain Obvious on May 25, 2023 7:38:50 GMT -4
I assume they’ll trade Fillion before the season so that he can get some more ice time, so the backup job should be wide open. It will be an interesting competition. I agree that Eli James seems like the front runner now, but I would count out Warren because he had a very good season in junior A. Moncton has been AWFUL at drafting goalies for the last 10 years. The only guy that was a Q calibre player was Lavallee and they traded him when he was 17. A lot of the past drafts were awful overall (Shannon years). Well their goalie scout is the GM's son so I doubt it's gonna get better anytime soon. Honestly at this point I'm fine with them just taking late round fliers on goalies and just trading and hitting the free agent market for them. Just seems like a waste to use any top 5 round picks when it seems like they cant project them out well. In the last 15 years(since Domingue), they have used ONE top 4 pick on a goalie and he had a good career(Lavallee). They did trade for Filion and he flopped, but this is more about not drafting young goalies early than not having them pan out. I'm not saying draft one early every year, but every 2-3 years you should draft a good young goalie in the top 3 rounds. |
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Post by Briwhel on May 25, 2023 7:46:45 GMT -4
Well their goalie scout is the GM's son so I doubt it's gonna get better anytime soon. Honestly at this point I'm fine with them just taking late round fliers on goalies and just trading and hitting the free agent market for them. Just seems like a waste to use any top 5 round picks when it seems like they cant project them out well. In the last 15 years(since Domingue), they have used ONE top 4 pick on a goalie and he had a good career(Lavallee). They did trade for Filion and he flopped, but this is more about not drafting young goalies early than not having them pan out. I'm not saying draft one early every year, but every 2-3 years you should draft a good young goalie in the top 3 rounds. I'm not a scout but this seems like one of the best drafts for goalies in recent memory. Getting your hands on a Lacelle (who has a short list of teams he'd report to) or a Meloche could do wonders for your team going forward (assuming that they pan out). |
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Post by nsvees on May 25, 2023 18:18:59 GMT -4
I would imagine Eli James is probably the front runner for the #2 position as a 17yo. I wouldn't be surprised if they bring in another free agent from Ontario as the backup. Thanks for the clarifications; I was curious. |
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Post by joehockey on May 26, 2023 13:49:51 GMT -4
Another poster mentioned a rumour that Moncton has traded 2 of the first round picks and that names could include Henneberry from Bathurst and Mann from Chicoutimi (both 19 year olds this upcoming season). Anyone hear that?
If it’s true, I’m just done paying attention to the team. They don’t ever seem to have a direction and just always make short-term / short sighted moves.
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Post by Briwhel on May 26, 2023 13:52:15 GMT -4
Another poster mentioned a rumour that Moncton has traded 2 of the first round picks and that names could include Henneberry from Bathurst and Mann from Chicoutimi. Anyone hear that? If it’s true, I’m just done paying attention to the team. They don’t ever seem to have a direction and just always make short-term / short sighted moves. I'm of the opinion that one of those two should be a goalie assuming that one or both are still on the board. |
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Post by catzfans on May 26, 2023 14:56:09 GMT -4
Another poster mentioned a rumour that Moncton has traded 2 of the first round picks and that names could include Henneberry from Bathurst and Mann from Chicoutimi (both 19 year olds this upcoming season). Anyone hear that? If it’s true, I’m just done paying attention to the team. They don’t ever seem to have a direction and just always make short-term / short sighted moves. These deals don't even fit with where the team is at. They absolutely should not be moving any of these 3 1st round picks for anything but an 18 year old |
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Post by WhiteTyAffair on May 27, 2023 3:57:03 GMT -4
Another poster mentioned a rumour that Moncton has traded 2 of the first round picks and that names could include Henneberry from Bathurst and Mann from Chicoutimi (both 19 year olds this upcoming season). Anyone hear that? If it’s true, I’m just done paying attention to the team. They don’t ever seem to have a direction and just always make short-term / short sighted moves. There’s no way. Those are Roger Shannon moves. |
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Post by WhiteTyAffair on May 27, 2023 17:15:28 GMT -4
Just spitballing an idea here.
Let’s say it’s true 13th and 18th are traded but it’s to move up in the draft.
Moncton packages Vincent Filion, 13th overall and 18th overall to Rimouski for 5th overall.
Thoughts?
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Post by catzfans on May 27, 2023 17:39:01 GMT -4
Just spitballing an idea here. Let’s say it’s true 13th and 18th are traded but it’s to move up in the draft. Moncton packages Vincent Filion, 13th overall and 18th overall to Rimouski for 5th overall. Thoughts? I'd much prefer that and it also makes much more sense given where we are at. I guess it really depends on what they are thinking at 5th overall? Lecompte/Nobert? Maybe if Huang drops because of US concerns If we want to bring an older player I'd rather use one of the import picks on a NHL drafted older player like a Jaskin/Axel rather than trade valuable assets |
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Post by statsman18 on May 27, 2023 20:26:31 GMT -4
Just spitballing an idea here. Let’s say it’s true 13th and 18th are traded but it’s to move up in the draft. Moncton packages Vincent Filion, 13th overall and 18th overall to Rimouski for 5th overall. Thoughts? I know it’s just spitballing but why bother putting Filion in this trade? I see that Rimouski needs a goalie but let’s be honest if they want Filion they could get him for next to nothing. I bet if Rimouski called and offered the 50th pick Thibeau might be pretty tempted. The picks your talking about sure why not kick tires but who do you have in mind for the pick? |
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Post by WhiteTyAffair on May 28, 2023 8:42:16 GMT -4
Just spitballing an idea here. Let’s say it’s true 13th and 18th are traded but it’s to move up in the draft. Moncton packages Vincent Filion, 13th overall and 18th overall to Rimouski for 5th overall. Thoughts? I know it’s just spitballing but why bother putting Filion in this trade? I see that Rimouski needs a goalie but let’s be honest if they want Filion they could get him for next to nothing. I bet if Rimouski called and offered the 50th pick Thibeau might be pretty tempted. The picks your talking about sure why not kick tires but who do you have in mind for the pick? I’m thinking Alex Huang. Very possible he falls because of his college options. At the same time, I can’t see him getting past Blainville at 3rd overall. If Rimouski has 13th and 18th, it will give them the chance to select two local players from the Notre-Dame Albatros program; Louis-Francois Belanger and Justin Blais. |
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Post by WildcatMapleLeafs on May 28, 2023 12:07:34 GMT -4
I could see sending a 1st to Victoriaville for Justin Gendron. He would fit in our cycle well
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Post by joehockey on May 29, 2023 23:19:13 GMT -4
I could see sending a 1st to Victoriaville for Justin Gendron. He would fit in our cycle well I wouldn’t be opposed to that. It would make sense with the cycle |
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Post by catzfans on May 29, 2023 23:47:28 GMT -4
As we've seen from the leagues 2 finalists Halifax and Quebec you build your team through the draft. And you wait until you know you are only 1 or 2 pieces away to make major moves as Halifax (Lawrence/Doucet) and Quebec (Robidas/Langlois) did.
The Wildcat Way building the whole roster via Trades when you aren't ready to compete is not sustainable as we've witnessed while watching the other Maritime teams win Memorial Cups.
Imagine our 3 1sts turn into a player like Dumais, Vidicek and McKinnon
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Post by statsman18 on May 30, 2023 8:18:39 GMT -4
As we've seen from the leagues 2 finalists Halifax and Quebec you build your team through the draft. And you wait until you know you are only 1 or 2 pieces away to make major moves as Halifax (Lawrence/Doucet) and Quebec (Robidas/Langlois) did. The Wildcat Way building the whole roster via Trades when you aren't ready to compete is not sustainable as we've witnessed while watching the other Maritime teams win Memorial Cups. Imagine our 3 1sts turn into a player like Dumais, Vidicek and McKinnon Here’s the problem with you guys though. If you guys win the bud to host next year these 3 1st will only be 17yo. Desnoyers by all accounts looks great and should be fine but the other 2 PTBNL are they going to be game changers at 17? The comparison of Dumais is a huge hope. He was the 18th pick and no one really expected him to be a 100 point guy at 17. I wouldn’t even expect that from Desnoyers as a 17yo. You guys are in a tight spot where maybe trading one of those picks now for an 18yo might make more sense. In this case maybe look at Bolduc and how he became a Rampart. |
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