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Post by WhiteTyAffair on Jan 14, 2023 10:35:18 GMT -4
The Foreurs are currently 12th overall (38 points) with 26 games left.
Their remaining schedule is as follows:
5 vs Rouyn
4 vs Drummondville
3 vs Baie-Comeau, Victoriaville and Chicoutimi
2 vs Gatineau, Blainville and Sherbrooke
1 vs Saint John and Cape Breton
I don't think Charlottetown (29 points) and Saint John (28 points) can make up the ground so I see Val d'Or finishing in 16th overall which would give the Wildcats 3 balls in the lottery and a 14% chance at the 1st overall pick.
Would anyone be willing to trade the pick for immediate help?
Example: At the draft, a package including Val d'Or's 1st and Sherbrooke's 1st is traded to the Phoenix for Ethan Gauthier.
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Post by hockeyfanatic on Jan 14, 2023 14:44:28 GMT -4
Thanks for posting this, wasn't even aware that we had a chance in the lottery for the first pick, but will be following now. Maybe 2023-2024 season will be moncton's year to get the first overall pick ? we haven't had much luck in the lottery since I've been following the cats ( since 2009-2010 season) have to think that next year is moncton's go for it year. Does anyone think Barbashev will be back ?
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Post by chootoi on Jan 14, 2023 15:38:35 GMT -4
I mean depending what the package is, sure. If the ultimate goal is a championship then I think they are a bit forced to go all in either next year and/or possibly 2024-25, or wait through a whole new rebuild cycle. Someone like Gauthier would give you 2 years. But it would be a steep price and I'm not convinced they are just one guy away. They'd would still need to empty the cupboards for 1 or 2 more impact players. Barbashev will not be back as a 20 so you're already down one but you'll have a mid-round euro pick to try and replace him.
I feel it's inevitable that at least 2 of those 3 first rd picks get moved one way or another for the next big run. The question is do they trade the picks at the draft or trade the players next Christmas period. Do they make the decision in the summer or wait the first bit of next season and see where they are at? Which has more value?
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Post by Captain Obvious on Jan 14, 2023 15:40:14 GMT -4
The Foreurs are currently 12th overall (38 points) with 26 games left. Their remaining schedule is as follows: 5 vs Rouyn 4 vs Drummondville 3 vs Baie-Comeau, Victoriaville and Chicoutimi 2 vs Gatineau, Blainville and Sherbrooke 1 vs Saint John and Cape Breton I don't think Charlottetown (29 points) and Saint John (28 points) can make up the ground so I see Val d'Or finishing in 16th overall which would give the Wildcats 3 balls in the lottery and a 14% chance at the 1st overall pick. Would anyone be willing to trade the pick for immediate help? Example: At the draft, a package including Val d'Or's 1st and Sherbrooke's 1st is traded to the Phoenix for Ethan Gauthier. I think it would be dumb to trade a top 5 pick for a 1 year player. |
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Post by WhiteTyAffair on Jan 14, 2023 16:00:21 GMT -4
The Foreurs are currently 12th overall (38 points) with 26 games left. Their remaining schedule is as follows: 5 vs Rouyn 4 vs Drummondville 3 vs Baie-Comeau, Victoriaville and Chicoutimi 2 vs Gatineau, Blainville and Sherbrooke 1 vs Saint John and Cape Breton I don't think Charlottetown (29 points) and Saint John (28 points) can make up the ground so I see Val d'Or finishing in 16th overall which would give the Wildcats 3 balls in the lottery and a 14% chance at the 1st overall pick. Would anyone be willing to trade the pick for immediate help? Example: At the draft, a package including Val d'Or's 1st and Sherbrooke's 1st is traded to the Phoenix for Ethan Gauthier. I think it would be dumb to trade a top 5 pick for a 1 year player. Two year player. |
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Post by catzfans on Jan 14, 2023 17:55:27 GMT -4
I think it would be dumb to trade a top 5 pick for a 1 year player. Two year player. Is it a weak draft year? |
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Post by WhiteTyAffair on Jan 14, 2023 19:56:09 GMT -4
I mean depending what the package is, sure. If the ultimate goal is a championship then I think they are a bit forced to go all in either next year and/or possibly 2024-25, or wait through a whole new rebuild cycle. Someone like Gauthier would give you 2 years. But it would be a steep price and I'm not convinced they are just one guy away. They'd would still need to empty the cupboards for 1 or 2 more impact players. Barbashev will not be back as a 20 so you're already down one but you'll have a mid-round euro pick to try and replace him. I feel it's inevitable that at least 2 of those 3 first rd picks get moved one way or another for the next big run. The question is do they trade the picks at the draft or trade the players next Christmas period. Do they make the decision in the summer or wait the first bit of next season and see where they are at? Which has more value? I feel the Wildcats are aiming for 2024/2025 as an all-in year. I think you'll see the Wildcats bid for the Memorial Cup. I wouldn't be opposed to the Wildcats making the deal in June. That will have people talking with the live draft in Sherbrooke. As of right now, the Phoenix don't have a pick until the 6th round. |
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Post by catzfans on Jan 14, 2023 20:15:16 GMT -4
I mean depending what the package is, sure. If the ultimate goal is a championship then I think they are a bit forced to go all in either next year and/or possibly 2024-25, or wait through a whole new rebuild cycle. Someone like Gauthier would give you 2 years. But it would be a steep price and I'm not convinced they are just one guy away. They'd would still need to empty the cupboards for 1 or 2 more impact players. Barbashev will not be back as a 20 so you're already down one but you'll have a mid-round euro pick to try and replace him. I feel it's inevitable that at least 2 of those 3 first rd picks get moved one way or another for the next big run. The question is do they trade the picks at the draft or trade the players next Christmas period. Do they make the decision in the summer or wait the first bit of next season and see where they are at? Which has more value? I feel the Wildcats are aiming for 2024/2025 as an all-in year. I think you'll see the Wildcats bid for the Memorial Cup. I wouldn't be opposed to the Wildcats making the deal in June. That will have people talking with the live draft in Sherbrooke. As of right now, the Phoenix don't have a pick until the 6th round. We’ve seen this story too many times though. Shortcuts rarely work unless you have an almost complete team already, which we don’t. If they want to trade one of the later 1sts for an established player that’s fine but moving lottery picks is not a great recipe |
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Post by Captain Obvious on Jan 16, 2023 8:36:22 GMT -4
I think it would be dumb to trade a top 5 pick for a 1 year player. Two year player. Correct, not sure why I was thinking he was a late. |
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Post by jordo999 on Jan 17, 2023 11:27:55 GMT -4
there's also rumors that Gauthier might be going home to Drummondville next season...Which I think they're looking to compete next year having majority of their core returning.
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Post by WhiteTyAffair on Jan 30, 2023 8:28:42 GMT -4
After a regulation loss to Baie-Comeau yesterday, Val d'Or are currently in a lottery spot.  Big game on Wednesday as the Seadogs visit the Foreurs. Other games for Val d'Or this week: Saturday in Victoriaville and Sunday in Blainville. |
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Post by Penguins23® on Jan 30, 2023 8:41:16 GMT -4
3D chess move by the Wildcats to lose to Cape Breton and Saint John this weekend. Heck, at this rate they might end up with two lottery picks.
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Post by WhiteTyAffair on Feb 5, 2023 18:43:33 GMT -4
After a regulation loss to Baie-Comeau yesterday, Val d'Or are currently in a lottery spot. View AttachmentBig game on Wednesday as the Seadogs visit the Foreurs. Other games for Val d'Or this week: Saturday in Victoriaville and Sunday in Blainville. Regulation losses to Victoriaville and Blainville drops Val dOr into 15th overall which gives the Wildcats two balls in the lottery and a 10% chance at 1st overall. Next weeks schedule sees the Foreurs play Victoriaville on Thursday and Rouyn on Sunday. |
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Post by catzfans on Feb 5, 2023 19:37:06 GMT -4
We are also sitting on 2 Top 10 Picks. When's the last time that happened? I don't think ever. I think Bernier/Crawford was close but not both in the Top 10
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Post by Captain Obvious on Feb 6, 2023 8:57:12 GMT -4
After a regulation loss to Baie-Comeau yesterday, Val d'Or are currently in a lottery spot. View AttachmentBig game on Wednesday as the Seadogs visit the Foreurs. Other games for Val d'Or this week: Saturday in Victoriaville and Sunday in Blainville. Regulation losses to Victoriaville and Blainville drops Val dOr into 15th overall which gives the Wildcats two balls in the lottery and a 10% chance at 1st overall. Next weeks schedule sees the Foreurs play Victoriaville on Thursday and Rouyn on Sunday. VD could easily drop to 18th... They have 40 points in 50 games... Cha has 39 points in 48 games Bathurst has 38 points in 49 games SJ has 36 points in 48 games A few wins and those teams pass VD. All three being in the same division means somebody gets 2 or 3 points when they play head to head. Plus CB is at 41 poimnts in 48 games. CB and Bathurst play 3 more times, Cha and CB play three more times. SJ and CB play 4 more times. Cb plays Dru next weekend. Cha plays SJ 5 times, they play Bat twice. they play Dru once. Bathurst has SJ 3 times VD only has 1 Dru game and 1 Cb game |
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