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Post by Captain Obvious on Feb 17, 2023 11:36:06 GMT -4
I'll remind you again Chicoutimi has two compensation picks in the 1st round (12th and 16th). Sherbrooke's pick would currently be 18th. I just like talking draft and prospects, but I'm no authority. If the Wildcats have picks 3, 10 and 18 - it would give them a realistic chance at hometown star Zachary Wheeler (ranked 6th); Cole Chandler (11th) and Brady Peddle (16th). If any team comes out of the 1st round with Wheeler, Chandler and Peddle - wow - that it's even possible is reason for Wildcats' fans to drool a bit. Zachary Wheeler and Cole Chandler both came on really strong over the past month or two. It isn't up to me - but I would think that the Wildcats' brass is very likely to go with Wheeler (6'1"-165 lbs.) if they have the 3rd, 4th or 5th pick overall. In no way am I saying that the Wildcats should go with the Maritime kids over the Quebec kids, but IMO - where they might pick places those names directly in the mix. I could see them trading one of the three picks for a kid that will help right away, 18 or 19 year old high end forward. Without knowing all the other kids, I would be thrilled if they took Wheeler with the VD pick, I think he will be a 1st line C in the Q, plus he has a winning pedigree, Telus cup last year, and almost singlehandedly bringing Moncton up the standings this year as a 15 year old. |
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Post by jimmy on Feb 17, 2023 11:48:48 GMT -4
I just like talking draft and prospects, but I'm no authority. If the Wildcats have picks 3, 10 and 18 - it would give them a realistic chance at hometown star Zachary Wheeler (ranked 6th); Cole Chandler (11th) and Brady Peddle (16th). If any team comes out of the 1st round with Wheeler, Chandler and Peddle - wow - that it's even possible is reason for Wildcats' fans to drool a bit. Zachary Wheeler and Cole Chandler both came on really strong over the past month or two. It isn't up to me - but I would think that the Wildcats' brass is very likely to go with Wheeler (6'1"-165 lbs.) if they have the 3rd, 4th or 5th pick overall. In no way am I saying that the Wildcats should go with the Maritime kids over the Quebec kids, but IMO - where they might pick places those names directly in the mix. I could see them trading one of the three picks for a kid that will help right away, 18 or 19 year old high end forward. Without knowing all the other kids, I would be thrilled if they took Wheeler with the VD pick, I think he will be a 1st line C in the Q, plus he has a winning pedigree, Telus cup last year, and almost singlehandedly bringing Moncton up the standings this year as a 15 year old. I think it will depend on who is available at the draft ... I think if the right 18 or 19 year old is being dangled, we could definitely move a first round pick (ideally we keep the VD pick since that player is likely closer to being able to contribute next season, and trade from the other two picks); but if not, I can see drafting all three and then using the players as trade bait next Xmas. |
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Post by lirette on Feb 17, 2023 11:55:29 GMT -4
I think SJ will eventually pass Val Dor just looking at their schedule. Theyve been playing well enough even if they go 500 in the games against CHA they should pass them. Bathurst I dont have much hope for, theyve barely won any games in the 2nd half.
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Post by lirette on Feb 17, 2023 12:04:45 GMT -4
I could see them trading one of the three picks for a kid that will help right away, 18 or 19 year old high end forward. Without knowing all the other kids, I would be thrilled if they took Wheeler with the VD pick, I think he will be a 1st line C in the Q, plus he has a winning pedigree, Telus cup last year, and almost singlehandedly bringing Moncton up the standings this year as a 15 year old. I think it will depend on who is available at the draft ... I think if the right 18 or 19 year old is being dangled, we could definitely move a first round pick (ideally we keep the VD pick since that player is likely closer to being able to contribute next season, and trade from the other two picks); but if not, I can see drafting all three and then using the players as trade bait next Xmas. I'd be interested in Fauchon from BBA if they were going to add a 19 year old next year, but I am unsure if he'll get drafted, I'd really only like seeing a late 1st moved if its for a 2 year guy otherwise stock up on prospects and see where things are at in December. We've seen in recent seasons 16 year olds can be impact guys on your team. I'd imagine itd be hard to get an 18 year old impact player without moving that lottery pick and I have no interest in that. I'm hoping where Ritchie comes from a scouting background his intention as a GM is to draft rather than trade picks. |
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Post by WhiteTyAffair on Feb 17, 2023 12:05:26 GMT -4
I'll remind you again Chicoutimi has two compensation picks in the 1st round (12th and 16th). Sherbrooke's pick would currently be 18th. I just like talking draft and prospects, but I'm no authority. If the Wildcats have picks 3, 10 and 18 - it would give them a realistic chance at hometown star Zachary Wheeler (ranked 6th); Cole Chandler (11th) and Brady Peddle (16th). If any team comes out of the 1st round with Wheeler, Chandler and Peddle - wow - that it's even possible is reason for Wildcats' fans to drool a bit. Zachary Wheeler and Cole Chandler both came on really strong over the past month or two. It isn't up to me - but I would think that the Wildcats' brass is very likely to go with Wheeler (6'1"-165 lbs.) if they have the 3rd, 4th or 5th pick overall. In no way am I saying that the Wildcats should go with the Maritime kids over the Quebec kids, but IMO - where they might pick places those names directly in the mix. I’d be willing to take Wheels with the 10th pick, not the 3rd. Assuming Desnoyers and Lecompte go 1-2 respectively, Moncton cannot pass up on Alex Huang with the 3rd pick. |
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Post by Captain Obvious on Feb 17, 2023 12:07:40 GMT -4
I think SJ will eventually pass Val Dor just looking at their schedule. Theyve been playing well enough even if they go 500 in the games against CHA they should pass them. Bathurst I dont have much hope for, theyve barely won any games in the 2nd half. Yeah, Bathurst will finish 18th barring a massive turnaround. Losing Kidney and Melanson crippled them. |
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Post by Captain Obvious on Feb 17, 2023 14:52:24 GMT -4
I’d be willing to take Wheels with the 10th pick, not the 3rd. Assuming Desnoyers and Lecompte go 1-2 respectively, Moncton cannot pass up on Alex Huang with the 3rd pick. I think that could be an interesting topic a couple of months from now heading towards the draft. I don't know why, but I have a feeling that the Wildcats' followers will want Wheeler. It's just too good of a fit to pass by. JMO. In a rare situation - I also have Wheeler in at number 6 on my own list. Whether they would try to trade down from 3rd to 6th or 7th - who knows? I'd guess he's long gone by 10th though. He ran away with the scoring race in U18 as a 15 year-old. He's already 6'1" and 165 lbs. and is only going to get better as he gets bigger. I'm not claiming he's a generational player, but he and Morin are ticket sellers. I think they (Wildcats) need to land him - even at 3rd. That's just my opinion. I think he'll be gone by 5th if they pass him at 3rd. His stock is on the upswing. Huang is referred to as the best skater in the draft by a couple of scouts. I have him ranked a bit lower - but Hockey Prospects really know their stuff. If they have him in at #3 - he deserves to be there. The Hockey Prospect people are really on the ball and very thorough. They're amazing - really. I see your point in taking the BPA at 3rd overall. Hard to argue against that. I'd guess Desnoyers - Lecompte 1-2. William Lacelle is the top ranked goalie. His numbers are over the top - 20-3 W-L; 1.55 GAA; .945 Sv% (WTF). Wow - who knows what the Wildcats will do? One thing about Moncton I've always found is that no matter what I think - they always seem to do the exact opposite. I'm not a fan of trading back from #3(or #1 if they win the lottery) if there are guys head and shoulders better. If they want to go get Wheeler and he is there at 6 or 7 they could possibly trade their two other 1sts and get the #6/7 pick plus a late 2nd rounder or 3rd plus 5th. It also depends if they like somebody a lot in the 15-20 range as well. |
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Post by jimmy on Feb 17, 2023 15:07:38 GMT -4
I think that could be an interesting topic a couple of months from now heading towards the draft. I don't know why, but I have a feeling that the Wildcats' followers will want Wheeler. It's just too good of a fit to pass by. JMO. In a rare situation - I also have Wheeler in at number 6 on my own list. Whether they would try to trade down from 3rd to 6th or 7th - who knows? I'd guess he's long gone by 10th though. He ran away with the scoring race in U18 as a 15 year-old. He's already 6'1" and 165 lbs. and is only going to get better as he gets bigger. I'm not claiming he's a generational player, but he and Morin are ticket sellers. I think they (Wildcats) need to land him - even at 3rd. That's just my opinion. I think he'll be gone by 5th if they pass him at 3rd. His stock is on the upswing. Huang is referred to as the best skater in the draft by a couple of scouts. I have him ranked a bit lower - but Hockey Prospects really know their stuff. If they have him in at #3 - he deserves to be there. The Hockey Prospect people are really on the ball and very thorough. They're amazing - really. I see your point in taking the BPA at 3rd overall. Hard to argue against that. I'd guess Desnoyers - Lecompte 1-2. William Lacelle is the top ranked goalie. His numbers are over the top - 20-3 W-L; 1.55 GAA; .945 Sv% (WTF). Wow - who knows what the Wildcats will do? One thing about Moncton I've always found is that no matter what I think - they always seem to do the exact opposite. I'm not a fan of trading back from #3(or #1 if they win the lottery) if there are guys head and shoulders better. If they want to go get Wheeler and he is there at 6 or 7 they could possibly trade their two other 1sts and get the #6/7 pick plus a late 2nd rounder or 3rd plus 5th. It also depends if they like somebody a lot in the 15-20 range as well. I think if you really like the guy ranked 6th ... you go ahead and pick him at 3. If you try and get cute and move down, there is a chance that someone else likes him and takes him 4th or 5th. That said - the Cats never seem to reach for hometown guys - they go with whoever is highest on their board. They have passed on plenty of highly touted Moncton area guys over the years. |
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Post by Captain Obvious on Feb 17, 2023 15:24:08 GMT -4
I'm not a fan of trading back from #3(or #1 if they win the lottery) if there are guys head and shoulders better. If they want to go get Wheeler and he is there at 6 or 7 they could possibly trade their two other 1sts and get the #6/7 pick plus a late 2nd rounder or 3rd plus 5th. It also depends if they like somebody a lot in the 15-20 range as well. I think if you really like the guy ranked 6th ... you go ahead and pick him at 3. If you try and get cute and move down, there is a chance that someone else likes him and takes him 4th or 5th. That said - the Cats never seem to reach for hometown guys - they go with whoever is highest on their board. They have passed on plenty of highly touted Moncton area guys over the years. I think you have respect your list, especially where you have gaps. If you have 3 guys clear cut then a group of 4-5 guys, then it makes no sense to reach for a guy at 3. |
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Post by catzfans on Feb 17, 2023 20:41:35 GMT -4
Interesting Thoughts .... I hadn't even considered us taking a D with the lottery pick with our lack of top end forwards. But the thought of having another high end D to go with Morin,AFG and Grenier is quite a building block
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Post by jimmy on Feb 18, 2023 9:17:07 GMT -4
I think if you really like the guy ranked 6th ... you go ahead and pick him at 3. If you try and get cute and move down, there is a chance that someone else likes him and takes him 4th or 5th. That said - the Cats never seem to reach for hometown guys - they go with whoever is highest on their board. They have passed on plenty of highly touted Moncton area guys over the years. I think you have respect your list, especially where you have gaps. If you have 3 guys clear cut then a group of 4-5 guys, then it makes no sense to reach for a guy at 3. Definitely trust your own board - I am saying if you really like a guy and have him at third, just pick him third - don’t try and trade down to six and hope he is still there because others have him ranked sixth. |
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Post by WhiteTyAffair on Feb 20, 2023 20:36:45 GMT -4
An underwhelming performance so far at the Canada Games from Zach Wheeler.
That will not help his draft stock.
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Post by catzfans on Feb 24, 2023 1:09:41 GMT -4
Val d’Or wins again. Not helping the cause
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Post by Captain Obvious on Feb 24, 2023 8:42:37 GMT -4
Val d’Or wins again. Not helping the cause On the flip side, the cats are tanking, close to dropping their 1st to 8th overall from 10th, just 1 point ahead of Shawinigan and tied with BC. |
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Post by catzfans on Feb 24, 2023 17:58:08 GMT -4
Val d’Or wins again. Not helping the cause On the flip side, the cats are tanking, close to dropping their 1st to 8th overall from 10th, just 1 point ahead of Shawinigan and tied with BC. True. Letting St John win yesterday helps out too. |
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