Sean
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Post by Sean on Mar 4, 2023 21:59:33 GMT -4
Season tix holders Adult playoff games are $14 each if you get all 16 and auto-renew for next year. $14, that is lower than what? 15-20 years ago? Have to wonder if the new owner had any influence on that!
As for future prices, nobody knows what will happen. Maybe season tix holders get more discounts, and others pay more, it's pure speculation at this point. It's not like ticket prices will increase BIG TIME, like someone said earlier, that's is doubtful.
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Post by coleminer on Mar 5, 2023 14:41:01 GMT -4
Will likely be incremental, but bigger jumps than we were accustomed to in years past, perhaps could see bigger playoff ticket increases in the future as well compared to past seasons. You can't do the majority of the jacking in prices within one year, then people would boycot. Perhaps even spread it out with bigger increases than usual in merchandise.
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Post by trueblue on Mar 5, 2023 17:51:33 GMT -4
Did the new ownership just buy us a new t-shirt gun? lol
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Post by Jacques Strap on Mar 5, 2023 17:55:49 GMT -4
Will likely be incremental, but bigger jumps than we were accustomed to in years past, perhaps could see bigger playoff ticket increases in the future as well compared to past seasons. You can't do the majority of the jacking in prices within one year, then people would boycot. Perhaps even spread it out with bigger increases than usual in merchandise. Does it matter that this owner is a billionaire? Maybe I am wrongly under the impression that they can afford tickets to stay at the same price. I guess the Irvings and McCain's don't seem to generous with their money when it comes to their teams do they? Maybe the fans of those teams can correct me. |
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Post by statsman18 on Mar 6, 2023 14:12:19 GMT -4
I want to say this before I get to deep down this issue. I’m totally throw shit at a wall here buuuuuuut I wonder if Bobby Smith selling the team and Gilles Courteau resigning might have a connection? I know this is a huge accusation but once again this sale happened way to fast and fully out of the blue.
Before anyone jumps down my throat and argues this think about it, The team is at its highest value. There’s an international tournament that sells his venue and fan base for free basically. The team itself is a contender and playoff tickets are going to be a prime. Is it possible Bobby knew a shit storm was coming and sold before his teams value took a high hit?
Once again I know nothing on the matter but man it sure seems fishy when you start putting the puzzle pieces together.
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Post by Jack Bauer on Mar 6, 2023 14:17:14 GMT -4
I want to say this before I get to deep down this issue. I’m totally throw shit at a wall here buuuuuuut I wonder if Bobby Smith selling the team and Gilles Courteau resigning might have a connection? I know this is a huge accusation but once again this sale happened way to fast and fully out of the blue. Before anyone jumps down my throat and argues this think about it, The team is at its highest value. There’s an international tournament that sells his venue and fan base for free basically. The team itself is a contender and playoff tickets are going to be a prime. Is it possible Bobby knew a shit storm was coming and sold before his teams value took a high hit? Once again I know nothing on the matter but man it sure seems fishy when you start putting the puzzle pieces together. Of course he sold while he believes he's at a peak. There's a reason there's been ownership changes in smaller markets in the region over the last few years...inflation alone is making these businesses much harder to run....never mind other factors that come with owning a Q team. People have been wondering for a decade when things were going to give in some markets. |
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Post by statsman18 on Mar 6, 2023 15:15:27 GMT -4
I want to say this before I get to deep down this issue. I’m totally throw shit at a wall here buuuuuuut I wonder if Bobby Smith selling the team and Gilles Courteau resigning might have a connection? I know this is a huge accusation but once again this sale happened way to fast and fully out of the blue. Before anyone jumps down my throat and argues this think about it, The team is at its highest value. There’s an international tournament that sells his venue and fan base for free basically. The team itself is a contender and playoff tickets are going to be a prime. Is it possible Bobby knew a shit storm was coming and sold before his teams value took a high hit? Once again I know nothing on the matter but man it sure seems fishy when you start putting the puzzle pieces together. Of course he sold while he believes he's at a peak. There's a reason there's been ownership changes in smaller markets in the region over the last few years...inflation alone is making these businesses much harder to run....never mind other factors that come with owning a Q team. People have been wondering for a decade when things were going to give in some markets. I’m pretty sure you didn’t get the point I was trying to lead everyone to. I was trying to suggest that did Bobby sell thinking some of the dirt that Gilles Courteau is getting covered with might be coming his way? Let’s say something is coming Halifax’s way from this law suit that also kills the value this team just gained. This is what I’m saying. I’m not saying pure dollars and cents here. |
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Post by Jack Bauer on Mar 6, 2023 15:37:53 GMT -4
Of course he sold while he believes he's at a peak. There's a reason there's been ownership changes in smaller markets in the region over the last few years...inflation alone is making these businesses much harder to run....never mind other factors that come with owning a Q team. People have been wondering for a decade when things were going to give in some markets. I’m pretty sure you didn’t get the point I was trying to lead everyone to. I was trying to suggest that did Bobby sell thinking some of the dirt that Gilles Courteau is getting covered with might be coming his way? Let’s say something is coming Halifax’s way from this law suit that also kills the value this team just gained. This is what I’m saying. I’m not saying pure dollars and cents here. And i'm just saying that yes, Bobby weighed every factor to determine now was the time to get out. Was it dirt? Economics? Not wanting to keep spending so much time in Halifax? I think it all weighed in because as a multi million business owner there's no 1 factor that weighs in....there's dozens. I'd say his spouses opinion meant more then whatever was happening in the QMJHL offices with the only caveat there being Bobby himself going to be commissioner which I cant see happening. But nothing in a QMJHL lawsuit will significantly damage the brand or potential of the Mooseheads in Halifax. They're a profit generating business thats only going to keep making money even if there's a significant shift in the league and how it does business because there is no CHL if cities like Halifax can't absolutely make the best go of it. I think if Bobby was nervous about lawsuits effecting his bottom line he could have got out when the minimum wage stuff was going through the courts. This is just someone selling at the right time for them in a post-pandemic world where perhaps international business travel for a team thats done everything isnt quite the motivating factor it was before covid and championship wins. |
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Post by yesisaiditfirst on Mar 6, 2023 19:40:19 GMT -4
I’m pretty sure you didn’t get the point I was trying to lead everyone to. I was trying to suggest that did Bobby sell thinking some of the dirt that Gilles Courteau is getting covered with might be coming his way? Let’s say something is coming Halifax’s way from this law suit that also kills the value this team just gained. This is what I’m saying. I’m not saying pure dollars and cents here. And i'm just saying that yes, Bobby weighed every factor to determine now was the time to get out. Was it dirt? Economics? Not wanting to keep spending so much time in Halifax? I think it all weighed in because as a multi million business owner there's no 1 factor that weighs in....there's dozens. I'd say his spouses opinion meant more then whatever was happening in the QMJHL offices with the only caveat there being Bobby himself going to be commissioner which I cant see happening. But nothing in a QMJHL lawsuit will significantly damage the brand or potential of the Mooseheads in Halifax. They're a profit generating business thats only going to keep making money even if there's a significant shift in the league and how it does business because there is no CHL if cities like Halifax can't absolutely make the best go of it. I think if Bobby was nervous about lawsuits effecting his bottom line he could have got out when the minimum wage stuff was going through the courts. This is just someone selling at the right time for them in a post-pandemic world where perhaps international business travel for a team thats done everything isnt quite the motivating factor it was before covid and championship wins. Need to figure the right offer may not have been on the table when the minimum wage issue was before the courts. The value of the business, the brand all vary due to circumstance. I'm sure there were always buyers but he probably had some boxes to check to agree to sale: 1) the money - This has to be a high point in the franchise value having weathered the last 10 years post championship and the pandemic fallout. The fact that other franchises recently transfered to new owners: Quebec a few years ago, Portland recently all would set the market. 2) Reputation of the new owner and maintain legacy trust of those dependent on him selling to the right buyer. Confidence that others will embrace the new guy. 3) Family - a big factor for sure When the right time cones on something big like that you just know. |
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Post by statsman18 on Mar 6, 2023 20:06:14 GMT -4
I’m pretty sure you didn’t get the point I was trying to lead everyone to. I was trying to suggest that did Bobby sell thinking some of the dirt that Gilles Courteau is getting covered with might be coming his way? Let’s say something is coming Halifax’s way from this law suit that also kills the value this team just gained. This is what I’m saying. I’m not saying pure dollars and cents here. And i'm just saying that yes, Bobby weighed every factor to determine now was the time to get out. Was it dirt? Economics? Not wanting to keep spending so much time in Halifax? I think it all weighed in because as a multi million business owner there's no 1 factor that weighs in....there's dozens. I'd say his spouses opinion meant more then whatever was happening in the QMJHL offices with the only caveat there being Bobby himself going to be commissioner which I cant see happening. But nothing in a QMJHL lawsuit will significantly damage the brand or potential of the Mooseheads in Halifax. They're a profit generating business thats only going to keep making money even if there's a significant shift in the league and how it does business because there is no CHL if cities like Halifax can't absolutely make the best go of it. I think if Bobby was nervous about lawsuits effecting his bottom line he could have got out when the minimum wage stuff was going through the courts. This is just someone selling at the right time for them in a post-pandemic world where perhaps international business travel for a team thats done everything isnt quite the motivating factor it was before covid and championship wins. Once again missing my point. I’m not saying it will affect money coming in. I’m saying that the Mooseheads might find them in a law suit themselves. Because this Quebec lawsuit might not be only a Quebec lawsuit. Maybe he knows some in house issues might come to light. I know of a few issues that were definitely buried. The things I know aren’t sexual assault stuff but I heard other things that got swept under the rug that are pretty serious things. |
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Post by catnut on Mar 6, 2023 20:27:18 GMT -4
And i'm just saying that yes, Bobby weighed every factor to determine now was the time to get out. Was it dirt? Economics? Not wanting to keep spending so much time in Halifax? I think it all weighed in because as a multi million business owner there's no 1 factor that weighs in....there's dozens. I'd say his spouses opinion meant more then whatever was happening in the QMJHL offices with the only caveat there being Bobby himself going to be commissioner which I cant see happening. But nothing in a QMJHL lawsuit will significantly damage the brand or potential of the Mooseheads in Halifax. They're a profit generating business thats only going to keep making money even if there's a significant shift in the league and how it does business because there is no CHL if cities like Halifax can't absolutely make the best go of it. I think if Bobby was nervous about lawsuits effecting his bottom line he could have got out when the minimum wage stuff was going through the courts. This is just someone selling at the right time for them in a post-pandemic world where perhaps international business travel for a team thats done everything isnt quite the motivating factor it was before covid and championship wins. Once again missing my point. I’m not saying it will affect money coming in. I’m saying that the Mooseheads might find them in a law suit themselves. Because this Quebec lawsuit might not be only a Quebec lawsuit. Maybe he knows some in house issues might come to light. I know of a few issues that were definitely buried. The things I know aren’t sexual assault stuff but I heard other things that got swept under the rug that are pretty serious things. Every CHL team is part of that lawsuit and it has been in process since long before the sale. |
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Post by Reesor on Mar 7, 2023 11:44:42 GMT -4
Do I remember correctly in that Scotiabank's naming rights for the Metro Center expire this year? I can't see the new owners wanting to name the Metro Center after their own brand because they don't have many potential clients in this part of the world. But the last time the naming rights were put up for sale the Scotiabank Center got new seats, a new clock, and new washrooms/concessions out of it. Could be some more upgrades coming from naming rights alone.
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Post by Jack Bauer on Mar 7, 2023 11:54:12 GMT -4
Do I remember correctly in that Scotiabank's naming rights for the Metro Center expire this year? I can't see the new owners wanting to name the Metro Center after their own brand because they don't have many potential clients in this part of the world. But the last time the naming rights were put up for sale the Scotiabank Center got new seats, a new clock, and new washrooms/concessions out of it. Could be some more upgrades coming from naming rights alone. Hearing a new owner talk about upgrades to an arena he's leasing always intrigues me in terms of how do you approach that from the teams perspective? Cost shared with the buildings owner? Does the Lacrosse team get involved since they also have a big reason to want the best in-arena atmosphere? In CB we've been hearing nothing but talk from our owner since day 1. From arena upgrades to a winning team...yet if you disappeared for 5 years and didn't know the difference and attended a game right now you'd wonder if there was any ownership at all. |
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Post by coleminer on Mar 8, 2023 10:53:14 GMT -4
Will likely be incremental, but bigger jumps than we were accustomed to in years past, perhaps could see bigger playoff ticket increases in the future as well compared to past seasons. You can't do the majority of the jacking in prices within one year, then people would boycot. Perhaps even spread it out with bigger increases than usual in merchandise. Does it matter that this owner is a billionaire? Maybe I am wrongly under the impression that they can afford tickets to stay at the same price. I guess the Irvings and McCain's don't seem to generous with their money when it comes to their teams do they? Maybe the fans of those teams can correct me. If there is one thing I have learned about rich people, they want to get richer. No different than you or I really. lol |
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Post by yesisaiditfirst on Mar 8, 2023 12:36:07 GMT -4
Does it matter that this owner is a billionaire? Maybe I am wrongly under the impression that they can afford tickets to stay at the same price. I guess the Irvings and McCain's don't seem to generous with their money when it comes to their teams do they? Maybe the fans of those teams can correct me. If there is one thing I have learned about rich people, they want to get richer. No different than you or I really. lol Most richer people compartmentalize their business investment sphere from their philanthropic sphere giving back to community very well. I think many are well aware of their privilege but they also have a duty to their thousands of employees in all their business to not recklessly destroy the business, the brand, gives away all the profits threat to stability/growth. Rich people also have families and things outside of business to dream about. Health & happiness.They probably care more about the same things as the rest of us. Living long, happy and being liked. The real difference with some of these owners (not all as McCain and Irving are living in their community) is they are not physically in the community. The rest of the team employees are though. So everything they do will look like it's for one outcome of lining the wallet. |
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