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Post by JEagle on Jun 21, 2023 15:15:24 GMT -4
The Eagles Recap version of the town hall.
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Post by eagleeye on Jun 21, 2023 17:06:07 GMT -4
how long can you stay in mode trading, cause there has to be an end ,with nothing in the cupboards .
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Post by hal on Jun 21, 2023 17:14:01 GMT -4
OK so it has MacDonald pegged as the #1 Center , I took that it they needed one so they were going out to get one .............obviously that was Pre Draft and not Post Draft Talk . As far as the Cupboards being bare .....we have some pile of Picks and Prospects that other Teams may or may not desire . He did mention that there were 3 - 17 year old Defencemen ready to play in the Q ........but is there Room for 3 and the fact that 16 Year Old Murphy from PEI is Highly touted .
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Post by eagle78 on Jun 21, 2023 17:48:59 GMT -4
So reading the article it seems the eagles got there coach just going threw negotiations, that was quick , interesting that this potential coach has a reputation for holding players accountable, any idea who it may be ? No leaks yet but this person must know the league then .
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Post by Deleted on Jun 21, 2023 19:16:23 GMT -4
So reading the article it seems the eagles got there coach just going threw negotiations, that was quick , interesting that this potential coach has a reputation for holding players accountable, any idea who it may be ? No leaks yet but this person must know the league then . Accountable, that word keeps coming up with Sly these days. Louis Robitaille = Accountability
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Post by jamesnorris on Jun 21, 2023 19:34:49 GMT -4
I do hope that 30-35 less practices is misquoted or a bit of over-exaggeration by Couturier.
I know Bathurst is more central but jesus, there's only 34 away games and most of them are in the Atlantic.
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Post by eagle78 on Jun 21, 2023 19:36:17 GMT -4
So reading the article it seems the eagles got there coach just going threw negotiations, that was quick , interesting that this potential coach has a reputation for holding players accountable, any idea who it may be ? No leaks yet but this person must know the league then . Accountable, that word keeps coming up with Sly these days. Louis Robitaille = Accountability ya i heard Robitaille name circling around on social media , I guess we will find out sooner rather then later
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Post by MJNICK44 on Jun 22, 2023 10:11:41 GMT -4
Has anyone heard any other names for a potential new head coach? I would think that any head coach that is renowned would want input into player personnel during the entry draft. Am I missing something here? I know if it was me I would want a say in the type of player(s) we draft and build the team around. (FYI I am not a coach in any way)
Anyone who attended the open house was the fact that we have never done a proper rebuild asked?
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Post by hal on Jun 22, 2023 14:52:59 GMT -4
Has anyone heard any other names for a potential new head coach? I would think that any head coach that is renowned would want input into player personnel during the entry draft. Am I missing something here? I know if it was me I would want a say in the type of player(s) we draft and build the team around. (FYI I am not a coach in any way) Anyone who attended the open house was the fact that we have never done a proper rebuild asked? That was asked at another Town Hall and he said that he had his core of young players and that he brought in the amount of 19 year olds that he did because he wanted someone to show them what it takes to play in this League . I don't agree with him but that is Sly's Style .
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Post by MJNICK44 on Jun 22, 2023 16:02:28 GMT -4
Has anyone heard any other names for a potential new head coach? I would think that any head coach that is renowned would want input into player personnel during the entry draft. Am I missing something here? I know if it was me I would want a say in the type of player(s) we draft and build the team around. (FYI I am not a coach in any way) Anyone who attended the open house was the fact that we have never done a proper rebuild asked? That was asked at another Town Hall and he said that he had his core of young players and that he brought in the amount of 19 year olds that he did because he wanted someone to show them what it takes to play in this League . I don't agree with him but that is Sly's Style . Thanks Hal. I do not agree either. We have never completed a proper rebuild. I think the majority of fans understand that junior hockey is cyclical in nature. You lose some average fans but the ones who support the team through thick and thin deserve a leadership that will stop trying to take shortcuts that are proven not to work in this league.
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Post by Jack Bauer on Jun 23, 2023 10:27:31 GMT -4
Has anyone heard any other names for a potential new head coach? I would think that any head coach that is renowned would want input into player personnel during the entry draft. Am I missing something here? I know if it was me I would want a say in the type of player(s) we draft and build the team around. (FYI I am not a coach in any way) Anyone who attended the open house was the fact that we have never done a proper rebuild asked? There's no point. The way this is setup the GM will tell you his rebuild was done after his first real day on the job at the 2022 draft. He will also tell you that 2 more years of "not winning" would cost him his job as the owner dictates the direction, ultimately. If they win everyone gets what they want...until the rebuild starts again. The interesting part is what happens either way here. If we lose to a better team in a round 2...I'd hate to be the person trying to sell tickets that off-season. If we win and are not returning much from the core...does the owner understand that losing just throws you right back into this cycle or sub 2000 crowds? Based on his comments there is almost this mythical thing that happens here if we win. Suddenly there's 4000 every night and governments are falling over themselves trying to spend money to improve the arena and its amenities. The path to 3000 every night (lets make the goal attainable) was a rebuild that was not rushed. This setup will get them 3000 for some playoff games. Maybe a few late season games vs other contenders. This market hasn't touched 3000 for a non-Halifax game in a while now which shows how much interest has died off.
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Post by Briwhel on Jun 23, 2023 10:39:29 GMT -4
I get that CB has plenty of resources to buy, but how many teams in the division is Cape Breton better than today?
I ask because Cape Breton's rebuild is over, but a team like Moncton has a very strong young base while Halifax has an older base (basically covering any period that this Cape Breton team could "compete" with a better set up for each part of it)
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Post by Jack Bauer on Jun 23, 2023 11:20:20 GMT -4
I get that CB has plenty of resources to buy, but how many teams in the division is Cape Breton better than today? I ask because Cape Breton's rebuild is over, but a team like Moncton has a very strong young base while Halifax has an older base (basically covering any period that this Cape Breton team could "compete" with a better set up for each part of it) They're not looking at anything but the opinion that winning=selling tickets so go win. Doesn't matter who we have. Doesn't matter who our competition may have. Go spend to win. If/When it blows up we're sold more shit about how Irwin's paying the bills yet he's crying when we're not buying tickets. Forget how many scouts you have. Coaches you have. Business people you have. Win and sell tickets. All you need is a GM with draft picks to do that apparently. Great news if it works for us...everyone else can copy Cape Breton by running a Q team with 6 people.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 23, 2023 11:39:41 GMT -4
JB, let's assume Squires, Houde, Shields, Patterson, Fullerton, Daigle, Lavoie, Ruccia, Campbell, Desjardins, Waugh, Euro Goalie, Ricard, Foley, etc. all show solid progression this year. Combined with players added like Newcombe, Schmidt, Shortall, Roy, Biggar, MacDonald, etc..
If this group can achieve 36-40 wins, is that not considered a solid rebuild?
No two rebuilds are the same, especially when you factor in the 2021 pandemic draft, do we not have to give it this season to fully say it was, shitty, decent, good or great?
I look thru teams in similar situations and I can't find one that has nailed it over the past 2 drafts (2021-2022) or has a rebuild going that I am envious of. Some will say Halifax, but the 2020 draft was soooo good it helps the 2021 look even better.
I don't know, maybe I am out to lunch, but I think we are 7-9 months out from fully understanding this current re-build.
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Post by Jack Bauer on Jun 23, 2023 12:58:23 GMT -4
JB, let's assume Squires, Houde, Shields, Patterson, Fullerton, Daigle, Lavoie, Ruccia, Campbell, Desjardins, Waugh, Euro Goalie, Ricard, Foley, etc. all show solid progression this year. Combined with players added like Newcombe, Schmidt, Shortall, Roy, Biggar, MacDonald, etc.. If this group can achieve 36-40 wins, is that not considered a solid rebuild? No two rebuilds are the same, especially when you factor in the 2021 pandemic draft, do we not have to give it this season to fully say it was, shitty, decent, good or great? I look thru teams in similar situations and I can't find one that has nailed it over the past 2 drafts (2021-2022) or has a rebuild going that I am envious of. Some will say Halifax, but the 2020 draft was soooo good it helps the 2021 look even better. I don't know, maybe I am out to lunch, but I think we are 7-9 months out from fully understanding this current re-build. A solid rebuild ends in a peak year where you have a solid group of veterans, some of which are good NHL prospects, and a great set of overagers. The point is that if you trade to bring it all in...there's no connection for the fans. They get 3 months of a good team and hopefully 4 rounds of playoffs. But then its right back to the rebuild. If you bring it slowly...last year build around those kids...keep your picks and draft one of those "top 5 that separated themselves" accordingly to Sly you start this year with that core but instead of 19yr olds like Newcombe and Schmitt you have a 17yr old Desruisseaux, a 16yr old top 5 pick, plus what other young assets you could have added by not doing those other deals or focusing on 16/17yr old kids vs 18 and 19yr olds.
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