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Post by yesisaiditfirst on Apr 10, 2024 6:30:00 GMT -4
So then what would it look like if the owner was just leaving the GM alone to make the moves and not "influencing"? You wouldn't be able to tell the difference. This looks the same as most of Cam Russell's approach year to year regardless of owner. When it was Bobby Smith as owner anytime a move didn't make sense to "fans" everyone opined "Smith told Cam he preferred this player to that one...or this coach wa hired because he is a friend of Bobby." This owner has enough money to be part of a bid in the past for an NBA team and in the current an NHL team. He has billions of $ and has less motivation to chase potential losses in a Q team. I really think the marketing part of the game is at its furthest degree of separation from the hockey department that it's ever been in this organization. This is all Cam Russell and his choices. It actually helps Simon's bid for his pro ventures if he doesn't interfere in the area he isn't an expert. You don't make that type of money by second guessing experts in all your businesses. My apologies for this late response; but owners can be involved (kept up to date as to what the GM wants to do, but should not be making personnel/coaching decisions. The best run organizations are when the owner allows his sports personnel people do what they need to do; give them the tools to do it and stay out of the way. Most owners have no idea about personnel; they know business/marketing/branding, etc. They should stick to their area of expertise. Obviously, the owner would have to approve what the personnel people want to do, but if there is a long standing trust between them, this should not be an issue. The Simons are new to the QMJHL; Cam Russell has been a GM in the QMJHL for about 15ish years. I don't care about the Simon's other sports ventures, or potential sports ventures. In this case my only interest is the Mooseheads. so then we agree...?? Simon has no motive or reason to stand in way of any of Russell's decisions because Russell with 15 years as GM knows what he is doing. And the track record has not hurt the franchise financially doing it that way. That's what I see. An owner letting/trusting the GM call the shots. One with no real motive to do otherwise. One who surrounds his businesses with experts and trusts them. In fact there is less interference in the hockey side now than there was under the last owner (who had preferences)
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Post by Joe Burrow on Apr 10, 2024 9:19:55 GMT -4
Anyone heard of when the annual fan farewell to the players is? I haven’t heard anything from the team about it and maybe it’s not happening because of the playoff debacle.
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Post by hfxfan09 on Apr 10, 2024 11:52:19 GMT -4
Anyone heard of when the annual fan farewell to the players is? I haven’t heard anything from the team about it and maybe it’s not happening because of the playoff debacle. There hasn't been one in a few years I think as far as I know, the last one I think was before the Pandemic, to my knowledge all the non-local boys went home the day after they were eliminated. (Not sure how that works, considering some of the high school ones would have to stay till June till school is over)
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Post by Joe Burrow on Apr 10, 2024 11:57:03 GMT -4
Anyone heard of when the annual fan farewell to the players is? I haven’t heard anything from the team about it and maybe it’s not happening because of the playoff debacle. There hasn't been one in a few years I think as far as I know, the last one I think was before the Pandemic, to my knowledge all the non-local boys went home the day after they were eliminated. (Not sure how that works, considering some of the high school ones would have to stay till June till school is over) Plus the university ones are just starting exams
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Post by Joe Burrow on Apr 10, 2024 19:47:21 GMT -4
Everything that's gone on the last few weeks is making me paranoid. Is Scott just avoiding the FB & Insta accounts because he's sick of facing all the toxic fans, or is there some other crap about to drop? Mathieu Cataford is playing his first AHL game tonight, you'd think they would want to tell people. And dumais will probably make a miraculous recovery and play this weekend
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Post by moosefan1994 on Apr 10, 2024 21:29:18 GMT -4
Everything that's gone on the last few weeks is making me paranoid. Is Scott just avoiding the FB & Insta accounts because he's sick of facing all the toxic fans, or is there some other crap about to drop? Mathieu Cataford is playing his first AHL game tonight, you'd think they would want to tell people. The Mooseheads haven’t even acknowledged that Nathan Mackinnon is the first alumni to score 50 goals in an NHL season , they did show his hat trick goal from last night on Twitter/ X but that was it, it’s like this organization is getting more Mickey Mouse by the day.
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Post by nsvees on Apr 10, 2024 22:11:42 GMT -4
My apologies for this late response; but owners can be involved (kept up to date as to what the GM wants to do, but should not be making personnel/coaching decisions. The best run organizations are when the owner allows his sports personnel people do what they need to do; give them the tools to do it and stay out of the way. Most owners have no idea about personnel; they know business/marketing/branding, etc. They should stick to their area of expertise. Obviously, the owner would have to approve what the personnel people want to do, but if there is a long standing trust between them, this should not be an issue. The Simons are new to the QMJHL; Cam Russell has been a GM in the QMJHL for about 15ish years. I don't care about the Simon's other sports ventures, or potential sports ventures. In this case my only interest is the Mooseheads. so then we agree...?? Simon has no motive or reason to stand in way of any of Russell's decisions because Russell with 15 years as GM knows what he is doing. And the track record has not hurt the franchise financially doing it that way. That's what I see. An owner letting/trusting the GM call the shots. One with no real motive to do otherwise. One who surrounds his businesses with experts and trusts them. In fact there is less interference in the hockey side now than there was under the last owner (who had preferences) Probably we pretty much agree.
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Post by Joe Burrow on Apr 11, 2024 5:12:08 GMT -4
Everything that's gone on the last few weeks is making me paranoid. Is Scott just avoiding the FB & Insta accounts because he's sick of facing all the toxic fans, or is there some other crap about to drop? Mathieu Cataford is playing his first AHL game tonight, you'd think they would want to tell people. The Mooseheads haven’t even acknowledged that Nathan Mackinnon is the first alumni to score 50 goals in an NHL season , they did show his hat trick goal from last night on Twitter/ X but that was it, it’s like this organization is getting more Mickey Mouse by the day. Yup it seems as if PR doesn’t care anymore
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Post by rbchimp on Apr 11, 2024 7:40:16 GMT -4
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Post by Jack Bauer on Apr 11, 2024 8:10:27 GMT -4
That article would concern the hell out of me if I was a Halifax fan. A proper rebuild should have nothing to do with how much you win early on in a market with educated fans. Mediocrity taking you to a forced rebuild just guts a fan base. An organic rebuild coming out of a period of success should be a natural thing with a down year or maybe even 2 to restock the cupboards. Fan support proper direction. Halifax can set itself up for a 3-4 year solid window with 2 good drafts. But not if it repeats past mistakes (Desnoyers) in the name of being competitive. I wonder if these owners understand how a deal with Moncton to sell off veteran assets was a big catalyst for this playoff run. Might be a question you get answered if a real journalist with a sports background was asking questions rather than a rapper who went through journalism school. But Global news and their pool of children reporters is a topic for another day.
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Post by moosefan1994 on Apr 11, 2024 8:32:40 GMT -4
That article would concern the hell out of me if I was a Halifax fan. A proper rebuild should have nothing to do with how much you win early on in a market with educated fans. Mediocrity taking you to a forced rebuild just guts a fan base. An organic rebuild coming out of a period of success should be a natural thing with a down year or maybe even 2 to restock the cupboards. Fan support proper direction. Halifax can set itself up for a 3-4 year solid window with 2 good drafts. But not if it repeats past mistakes (Desnoyers) in the name of being competitive. I wonder if these owners understand how a deal with Moncton to sell off veteran assets was a big catalyst for this playoff run. Might be a question you get answered if a real journalist with a sports background was asking questions rather than a rapper who went through journalism school. But Global news and their pool of children reporters is a topic for another day. Here is the thing- as a fan who wants a complete scorched earth, trade all our vets except for Braedan Macphee rebuild, I don’t expect Simon to come out and say that in an interview. He has business considerations to take into account, I don’t. I’m somewhat hopeful the fact that the word rebuild actually came up in his vocabulary in that interview.
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Post by Jack Bauer on Apr 11, 2024 8:39:38 GMT -4
That article would concern the hell out of me if I was a Halifax fan. A proper rebuild should have nothing to do with how much you win early on in a market with educated fans. Mediocrity taking you to a forced rebuild just guts a fan base. An organic rebuild coming out of a period of success should be a natural thing with a down year or maybe even 2 to restock the cupboards. Fan support proper direction. Halifax can set itself up for a 3-4 year solid window with 2 good drafts. But not if it repeats past mistakes (Desnoyers) in the name of being competitive. I wonder if these owners understand how a deal with Moncton to sell off veteran assets was a big catalyst for this playoff run. Might be a question you get answered if a real journalist with a sports background was asking questions rather than a rapper who went through journalism school. But Global news and their pool of children reporters is a topic for another day. Here is the thing- as a fan who wants a complete scorched earth, trade all our vets except for Braedan Macphee rebuild, I don’t expect Simon to come out and say that in an interview. He has business considerations to take into account, I don’t. I’m somewhat hopeful the fact that the word rebuild actually came up in his vocabulary in that interview. Oh 100%. You're definitely right that there's no benefit to saying it could be a long process. Luckily for you teams will be sniffing around because some of the assets you have should be among the most in demand for contending teams. Bringing in serviceable vets in return should be an easy part of that process as usually teams looking to add want to find a home for players they have no room for.
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Post by scrappycocoa on Apr 11, 2024 10:32:11 GMT -4
Here is the thing- as a fan who wants a complete scorched earth, trade all our vets except for Braedan Macphee rebuild, I don’t expect Simon to come out and say that in an interview. He has business considerations to take into account, I don’t. I’m somewhat hopeful the fact that the word rebuild actually came up in his vocabulary in that interview. Oh 100%. You're definitely right that there's no benefit to saying it could be a long process. Luckily for you teams will be sniffing around because some of the assets you have should be among the most in demand for contending teams. Bringing in serviceable vets in return should be an easy part of that process as usually teams looking to add want to find a home for players they have no room for. He said nothing that concerned me. There will be trades at the draft, trades at Christmas, anything they can get value for, Kilfoil, and Levesque will be the younger talent. Probably an okay vet or two added from Ontario or somewhere. The cycle begins anew. Usually they hang on too a few guys until Christmas, to give them a good enough record to get them through the season and make the playoffs. Cataford should fetch a monster haul of draft pics, Videcek should net a couple decent ones as well.
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Post by trueblue on Apr 11, 2024 10:53:49 GMT -4
Guess we will find out Midgely's fate next week. Will be interesting to see what happens with MacKenzie and Heelis too as I don't think they can skip by without blame for what happened down the stretch.
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Post by scrappycocoa on Apr 11, 2024 11:03:14 GMT -4
Guess we will find out Midgely's fate next week. Will be interesting to see what happens with MacKenzie and Heelis too as I don't think they can skip by without blame for what happened down the stretch. Special teams are usually on the assistants. The PP sucked all year, they gave up what 3 or 4 short handed goals in the first round loss. They should be gone too I would think. Air the place right out.
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