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Post by bobislesfan on Apr 4, 2024 11:49:55 GMT -4
I’m excited to watch the Butler Shields show next year. In the last two months of the regular season Shields had 14 points in 18 games which would put him at a 52 point pace. Butler had an unreal rookie season, one can only assume that they both have a strong offseason training and come back even stronger next season. Along with the other young core, it will be exciting to watch!
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Post by davo1997 on Apr 4, 2024 12:32:05 GMT -4
my biggest concern with Michaud is the ability to stay healthy aside from that I agree he looks to be a kid who can be a PPG sniper at 19.... not sure he takes that big a step next year just yet he played 53 games year 1 and 63 year 2 hes pretty much been there and he will take the ppg step next year for sure
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Post by jangle on Apr 4, 2024 12:40:44 GMT -4
I’m excited to watch the Butler Shields show next year. In the last two months of the regular season Shields had 14 points in 18 games which would put him at a 52 point pace. Butler had an unreal rookie season, one can only assume that they both have a strong offseason training and come back even stronger next season. Along with the other young core, it will be exciting to watch! This. 💯 percent this. I am so excited for that pairing. Butler is unreal.
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Post by Naomi on Apr 4, 2024 13:00:36 GMT -4
One thing that doesn't get noticed from Butler is he'll be out there yapping at the other team. He'll follow the goalie around the net and he'll be chirping him the whole time. Imagine how effective he'll be if he continues that as well. I can see him turning into a Brad Marchand type of player (just please don't lick any players).
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Post by bois on Apr 4, 2024 14:16:10 GMT -4
Rimouski could offer 1st and a 3rd and Tyson Goguen as foundation for a Kearsay at the draft
Moncton Carrier a 2nd and a future first perhaps
just spitballing
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Post by kyle52 on Apr 4, 2024 14:21:16 GMT -4
my biggest concern with Michaud is the ability to stay healthy aside from that I agree he looks to be a kid who can be a PPG sniper at 19.... not sure he takes that big a step next year just yet Yes, I agree, his rookie year his health was a concern, but he only had one stint this year where he missed time and it was after a knee-on-knee. I'd say the biggest concern with Michaud is his skating. It's improved since last year but still needs work. His playmaking has gotten a lot better as the season went along as well.
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Post by bois on Apr 4, 2024 14:23:30 GMT -4
my biggest concern with Michaud is the ability to stay healthy aside from that I agree he looks to be a kid who can be a PPG sniper at 19.... not sure he takes that big a step next year just yet Yes, I agree, his rookie year his health was a concern, but he only had one stint this year where he missed time and it was after a knee-on-knee. I'd say the biggest concern with Michaud is his skating. It's improved since last year but still needs work. His playmaking has gotten a lot better as the season went along as well. i admit i was wrong lol i thought he missed way more time this year than he did... my bad
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Post by kyle52 on Apr 4, 2024 14:23:41 GMT -4
I personally admire Michaud's talent and believe he has the potential to become a high point producer in the upcoming three seasons. He achieved an impressive 23 points at the age of 16 and 40 points at the age of 17. Considering the skills of Conrad and Plamondon, I can see Hulton looking at offers on Kearsey. As good of a return Kearsey would pull, Hulton has been quoted as saying Kearsey is the future captain of this team. I think his impact in the locker room and in the community is too much for him to consider moving on from Kearsey. Plus, in the draft, Kearsey pretty much only wanted to go to Charlottetown if I do recall correctly. Still though, I like the way you think.
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Post by Jack Bauer on Apr 4, 2024 14:23:46 GMT -4
Why wouldn't an all-in team go after Kearsey? They would have him for their run, and then as a trade-able asset at 19 to restart their rebuild, or as a future in their all-in year. It will cost everything they have to bring him in when you go all in you need to fill in the gaps. Kearsey will be picked up by a team who can keep him for two years and be really good next year and contend the year after not to many teams add an 18 year old the year they go for it again BLB makes most sense Acquiring an 18yr old just gives you options the following season. You don't have to be locked into buying or selling for that next season. The reason his value is so high at 18 is because he takes up no special spots, he's elite, and you can fully expect him back at 19. But moving him at the 2024 draft means you can walk away with a top end 2024 draft pick plus other picks and roster players which really helps Charlottetown's rebuild more then a top 18yr old would right now.
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Post by dutchinc on Apr 4, 2024 15:01:01 GMT -4
I personally admire Michaud's talent and believe he has the potential to become a high point producer in the upcoming three seasons. He achieved an impressive 23 points at the age of 16 and 40 points at the age of 17. Considering the skills of Conrad and Plamondon, I can see Hulton looking at offers on Kearsey. As good of a return Kearsey would pull, Hulton has been quoted as saying Kearsey is the future captain of this team. I think his impact in the locker room and in the community is too much for him to consider moving on from Kearsey. Plus, in the draft, Kearsey pretty much only wanted to go to Charlottetown if I do recall correctly. Still though, I like the way you think. Kearsey is going nowhere. He just turned 18. What sense is it to trade an 18yr old with 3 years left. For a draft pick(s) that may bust. That’s right, no sense. His value will be at 19 @ Xmas time at the earliest. Unless the team is shit at that time, he’s staying put.
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Post by Score on Apr 4, 2024 15:05:46 GMT -4
As good of a return Kearsey would pull, Hulton has been quoted as saying Kearsey is the future captain of this team. I think his impact in the locker room and in the community is too much for him to consider moving on from Kearsey. Plus, in the draft, Kearsey pretty much only wanted to go to Charlottetown if I do recall correctly. Still though, I like the way you think. Kearsey is going nowhere. He just turned 18. What sense is it to trade an 18yr old with 3 years left. For a draft pick(s) that may bust. That’s right, no sense. His value will be at 19 @ Xmas time at the earliest. Unless the team is shit at that time, he’s staying put. So what do you think Hulton should do?
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Post by bd on Apr 4, 2024 15:09:51 GMT -4
I think they have to make an "unpopular" move to gain back some assets. I don't know if they build around the 17's or the 16's but either way something needs to be done. Like what? I think it's been covered in the post that have happened since last night. Some kind of move/trade to recoup some picks so that can be used to make a run for it around one of those groups. I am by no means a hockey expert, in fact only really been paying attention in the last 8 yrs, so what do I know
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Post by dutchinc on Apr 4, 2024 16:38:15 GMT -4
Kearsey is going nowhere. He just turned 18. What sense is it to trade an 18yr old with 3 years left. For a draft pick(s) that may bust. That’s right, no sense. His value will be at 19 @ Xmas time at the earliest. Unless the team is shit at that time, he’s staying put. So what do you think Hulton should do? That’s just it. Very good question. I think he puts a lot of effort into the free agency market in hopes of finding a couple diamonds. I think his options are very limited. That’s why the only name that has come up in this thread is Kearsey. Cause that’s all there is.
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Post by countryboy on Apr 4, 2024 16:59:56 GMT -4
I really like Rimouski as a trade partner on a deal like this. They will have a very strong team to host the Memorial Cup. They need some help on the blueline to make sure they are icing a veteran group. PO Roy from Victoriaville is rumored to be heading there and will be a top notch 20. Luke Coughlin will be 19 and is NHL drafted. He's been injured most of the last 2 years but they will be counting on him to have a big season for them. After that they've got some so-so 05 players, plus Spencer Gill, who's a study and will be 18. For the Memorial Cup run, will they want both Kearsey and Gill, who will both be 18 y/o players in top 4 roles. They are not going to pay the piper to bring in Kearsey for the 3rd pairing. Gill will for sure be there. Does a Memorial Cup host have two 18 y/o's in their top 4 with say Coughlin and Roy. I'm not sure that's enough of a juggernaut for a Memorial Cup team. Rimouski is a club that historically isn't too concerned with age and really just seeks great hockey players. What about the Eagles as a landing spot for Kearsey? They should be strong again next year and will be building nicely off of a good playoff run this year. Can a package involving Kearsey have enough in it to pry away the SJ 1st in this year's draft. That gets us a top 5 pick immediately. Rimouski could offer 1st and a 3rd and Tyson Goguen as foundation for a Kearsay at the draft Moncton Carrier a 2nd and a future first perhaps just spitballing
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Post by countryboy on Apr 4, 2024 17:31:17 GMT -4
And on the topic of trading Kersey.... it's confusing, because some of this talk is in the GDT and other talk is in the off season thread. I'll keep going here....
For me, I'd like to hold off on drafting Kearsey until after we know what happens with him in the upcoming NHL draft. If he's selected in the draft (I think he will be) then he's got two more years in the Q and likely turns pro at 20. But there is a chance he does not get selected.... there's a lot of chaos in his game, lots of offense, but he's small and scouts will have questions about his ability to defend at the pro level. If he goes undrafted there's a great chance he plays junior at 18, 19, and 20 and then we have the possibility of using him as a 20 with 19 y/o talent among our 2007 born players. Kearsey as a 20 and Conrad at 19 would be aweseome. But it is a sloooow build to that one good season.
How does the trade value for Kearsey compare at the draft vs. midseason. Do we lose significant value by dealing him mid-way through the 24-25 season? Will the Memorial Cup in the Q drive up prices and maybe we get someone to pay a premium for his services at Christmas? All questions that no one knows the answer to.
That being said, there are some guys that Hulton likes to keep as "lifers"... players who just wear the Islanders logo for the duration of their major junior career and don't end up being part of trade chatter.... Welsh, Budgell, Cormier. Does Kearsey fit in the mix with that sort of group? Maybe he does have a deal where he controls where he is moved to. It definitely helps his pro career to get moved to a contender and then maybe moved again at 19 to another winning team. But if there's an agreement in place maybe he just wants to stay in Charlottetown. We are starting to have good luck getting guys like this to come here and you don't want to start burning deals. So maybe Kearsey has first right of refusal where he could end up getting dealt to.
Lots and lots and lots of questions.
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