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Post by WhiteTyAffair on Apr 29, 2024 10:00:40 GMT -4
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Post by pong on Apr 29, 2024 10:30:53 GMT -4
That’s exciting, but reaching out and landing him are 2 very different things. Fingers crossed 🤞
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Post by Captain Obvious on Apr 29, 2024 11:09:44 GMT -4
That’s exciting, but reaching out and landing him are 2 very different things. Fingers crossed 🤞 Winning with a powerhouse university team and developing teenagers are two very different things. I'm sure money could make him leave the comforts of UNB and their deep pockets.
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Post by WhiteTyAffair on Apr 29, 2024 11:11:42 GMT -4
Even if Gardiner was presented with a blank cheque, I just can't see him leaving UNB.
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Post by Captain Obvious on Apr 29, 2024 11:36:36 GMT -4
Even if Gardiner was presented with a blank cheque, I just can't see him leaving UNB. Money is probably a pretty big factor plus it's a spring board to a pro job if he wants one.
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Post by Jack Bauer on Apr 29, 2024 11:39:01 GMT -4
Even if Gardiner was presented with a blank cheque, I just can't see him leaving UNB. I don't even think its a money thing. He wouldn't have enough control with a CHL team. Too many variables. He has himself in the 1 league in the country where he can spend money and stack a team and everyone pats him on the back for it because the league itself doesn't actually care about the results because there's not the same perception around pro careers as there is at other levels. He gets to only enjoy all the positives that come with that. Why would he ever give that up for a CHL cycle?
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Post by jimmy on Apr 29, 2024 12:00:43 GMT -4
Even if Gardiner was presented with a blank cheque, I just can't see him leaving UNB. I don't even think its a money thing. He wouldn't have enough control with a CHL team. Too many variables. He has himself in the 1 league in the country where he can spend money and stack a team and everyone pats him on the back for it because the league itself doesn't actually care about the results because there's not the same perception around pro careers as there is at other levels. He gets to only enjoy all the positives that come with that. Why would he ever give that up for a CHL cycle? A new challenge? To prove to himself (and any doubters, whether real or self-imagined) that he can do without the UNB advantage built-in? Not saying he will ... but those could be motivating factors.
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Post by Jack Bauer on Apr 29, 2024 12:06:03 GMT -4
I don't even think its a money thing. He wouldn't have enough control with a CHL team. Too many variables. He has himself in the 1 league in the country where he can spend money and stack a team and everyone pats him on the back for it because the league itself doesn't actually care about the results because there's not the same perception around pro careers as there is at other levels. He gets to only enjoy all the positives that come with that. Why would he ever give that up for a CHL cycle? A new challenge? To prove to himself (and any doubters, whether real or self-imagined) that he can do without the UNB advantage built-in? Not saying he will ... but those could be motivating factors. Yeah but he could make that jump to pro and get paid more and prove himself at the highest levels is what i'm thinking. Why take that step down and risk 1 kids attitude blowing up a teams season and potentially part of your reputation.
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Post by hal on Apr 29, 2024 12:14:14 GMT -4
Even if Gardiner was presented with a blank cheque, I just can't see him leaving UNB. I don't even think its a money thing. He wouldn't have enough control with a CHL team. Too many variables. He has himself in the 1 league in the country where he can spend money and stack a team and everyone pats him on the back for it because the league itself doesn't actually care about the results because there's not the same perception around pro careers as there is at other levels. He gets to only enjoy all the positives that come with that. Why would he ever give that up for a CHL cycle? Why would he give that up for a CHL Cycle ? ........Enough Zero's just might change his mind .
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Post by countryboy on Apr 29, 2024 12:20:56 GMT -4
If I am Gardiner MacDougall, every move I'd make would be with the goal of hoisting the Stanley Cup over my head.
Does taking the Wildcats job make him more likely to be hired as an NHL head coach? The answer to that is not a clear "yes" or "no". Coaching in the NHL is a highly competitive business. There are lots of fired coaches who would love to get back in the job. Some (Turk for example) are selective with their choice and look for just the right opportunity.
Gardiner is not your typical hire for an NHL coach.... but I think he would be an awesome NHL coach. So, does coaching major junior improve his resume so that if the opportunity arises where he might coach an NHL team, he is then a more qualified candidate than if he just sticks with UNB.... that I don't know?
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Post by hal on Apr 29, 2024 12:25:45 GMT -4
If Money is not the thing and getting a Pro Job is .....Why wouldn't he just by pass the CHL and go right to the AHL ? No NHL Team is gonna ask him to go do an Apprenticeship in Junior first , they would hire him as their Minor League / Head Coach in Waiting of the Big Club .
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Post by Jack Bauer on Apr 29, 2024 12:38:26 GMT -4
I don't even think its a money thing. He wouldn't have enough control with a CHL team. Too many variables. He has himself in the 1 league in the country where he can spend money and stack a team and everyone pats him on the back for it because the league itself doesn't actually care about the results because there's not the same perception around pro careers as there is at other levels. He gets to only enjoy all the positives that come with that. Why would he ever give that up for a CHL cycle? Why would he give that up for a CHL Cycle ? ........Enough Zero's just might change his mind . So go professional. What CHL team is going to give him the perfect situation and pay more then the pro's? I just don't see it even if an Irving stopped by with a Brinks truck and the keys to the Moncton Wildcats. There's more money and upside in the pro's. Almost no downside. Lots of that in the CHL and less money as compared to the pro route.
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Post by Captain Obvious on Apr 29, 2024 12:40:52 GMT -4
Even if Gardiner was presented with a blank cheque, I just can't see him leaving UNB. I don't even think its a money thing. He wouldn't have enough control with a CHL team. Too many variables. He has himself in the 1 league in the country where he can spend money and stack a team and everyone pats him on the back for it because the league itself doesn't actually care about the results because there's not the same perception around pro careers as there is at other levels. He gets to only enjoy all the positives that come with that. Why would he ever give that up for a CHL cycle? That's why he's been there so long, but money and career advancement is out there for most people. I'm sure the WC can double his income if he has both jobs.
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Post by Captain Obvious on Apr 29, 2024 12:43:06 GMT -4
If I am Gardiner MacDougall, every move I'd make would be with the goal of hoisting the Stanley Cup over my head. Does taking the Wildcats job make him more likely to be hired as an NHL head coach? The answer to that is not a clear "yes" or "no". Coaching in the NHL is a highly competitive business. There are lots of fired coaches who would love to get back in the job. Some (Turk for example) are selective with their choice and look for just the right opportunity. Gardiner is not your typical hire for an NHL coach.... but I think he would be an awesome NHL coach. So, does coaching major junior improve his resume so that if the opportunity arises where he might coach an NHL team, he is then a more qualified candidate than if he just sticks with UNB.... that I don't know? There is is no chance he gets an NHL HC job out of CIS. In terms of an NHL HC job, junior is closer to NHL than CIS.
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Post by Jack Bauer on Apr 29, 2024 13:35:22 GMT -4
If I am Gardiner MacDougall, every move I'd make would be with the goal of hoisting the Stanley Cup over my head. Does taking the Wildcats job make him more likely to be hired as an NHL head coach? The answer to that is not a clear "yes" or "no". Coaching in the NHL is a highly competitive business. There are lots of fired coaches who would love to get back in the job. Some (Turk for example) are selective with their choice and look for just the right opportunity. Gardiner is not your typical hire for an NHL coach.... but I think he would be an awesome NHL coach. So, does coaching major junior improve his resume so that if the opportunity arises where he might coach an NHL team, he is then a more qualified candidate than if he just sticks with UNB.... that I don't know? There is is no chance he gets an NHL HC job out of CIS. In terms of an NHL HC job, junior is closer to NHL than CIS. I think he could get an NHL assistant coaching job tomorrow if he wanted one. Thats closer then junior and CIS.
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