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Post by qmaniac on Sept 13, 2007 17:14:59 GMT -4
Wasn't it Clem Jodoin himself that mentionned that last years edition of the Mainiacs main problem at the Mem Cup was size?It was quite obvious that they were no match physically for the other teams participating.  I agree that you don't want a whole team of 6'3 220lbs gorillas,but its two sides to a coin....you don't want too many guys that can't win one on one battles either. Anaheim had lots of size last year.....Vancouver had lots of size last year......and we all know how those teams did last year  Guys like MacDonald Selanne Neidermayer Beauchemin Kunitz were among the top players on Anaheim and they are relatively small(or play small) by NHL standards. Pronger and Pender are the only 2 "key" players that are much bigger than average. I'd probably have to add Getzlaf to that |
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Post by MikeC on Sept 13, 2007 21:31:35 GMT -4
Guys like MacDonald Selanne Neidermayer Beauchemin Kunitz were among the top players on Anaheim and they are relatively small(or play small) by NHL standards. Pronger and Pender are the only 2 "key" players that are much bigger than average. I'd probably have to add Getzlaf to that Perry is 6'3" and Moen is 6'2". They were both pretty good in the playoffs. |
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Post by Porkchop on Sept 13, 2007 22:47:31 GMT -4
Right now the only comparable between Perreault and MacAusland is their size.... The rest(skillwise) is your crap until MacAusland develops into a Perreault.... MacAusland was rated top 5 in the draft after his 15 year old season while Perreault went undrafted, MacAusland is a year ahead of Perreault development wise...the Canada games show pretty clearly that he has a lot of talent. MacAusland has showed absolutely nothing in this league yet......potential is there, but nothing else.........we will have to wait and see with this one........are you starting the use the "street clothes" way of judging new players now? |
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Post by Captain Obvious on Sept 14, 2007 7:47:19 GMT -4
MacAusland was rated top 5 in the draft after his 15 year old season while Perreault went undrafted, MacAusland is a year ahead of Perreault development wise...the Canada games show pretty clearly that he has a lot of talent. MacAusland has showed absolutely nothing in this league yet......potential is there, but nothing else.........we will have to wait and see with this one........are you starting the use the "street clothes" way of judging new players now? This league is not the only league in the world. Just because a player hasn't played in the league yet doesn't make him a nobody. |
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Post by Porkchop on Sept 14, 2007 8:11:34 GMT -4
MacAusland has showed absolutely nothing in this league yet......potential is there, but nothing else.........we will have to wait and see with this one........are you starting the use the "street clothes" way of judging new players now? This league is not the only league in the world. Just because a player hasn't played in the league yet doesn't make him a nobody. Just another flip flop by Billy........If I had some time I'd go back and see where you said exactly the same thing I did above.........right now he is POTENTIAL only. |
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Post by SteveUL on Sept 14, 2007 8:14:42 GMT -4
This league is not the only league in the world. Just because a player hasn't played in the league yet doesn't make him a nobody. Just another flip flop by Billy........If I had some time I'd go back and see where you said exactly the same thing I did above.........right now he is POTENTIAL only. MacAusland is 16 ... he is not expected to contribute in any way other than development ... this year. His 30-40 goals this year will just be gravy. |
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Post by chsb on Sept 14, 2007 8:25:25 GMT -4
Speaking about size, one player that I see rising up at 17 YO this season is Samuel Morneau....too bad the Titan traded him because he should be dominant at 19.....
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Post by Captain Obvious on Sept 14, 2007 8:41:06 GMT -4
This league is not the only league in the world. Just because a player hasn't played in the league yet doesn't make him a nobody. Just another flip flop by Billy........If I had some time I'd go back and see where you said exactly the same thing I did above.........right now he is POTENTIAL only. How is that a flip flop? Just because a player hasn't yet played in the league doesn't make him a flop. Just look at Madsen Voracek Yandle MacDonald the last 2 years. I'm not saying MacAusland will have that kind of impact because he is 16 and starting at the bottom on the Cats lineup, but he's already proven a lot. |
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Post by juniorhockeyfan86 on Sept 14, 2007 9:03:27 GMT -4
Just another flip flop by Billy........If I had some time I'd go back and see where you said exactly the same thing I did above.........right now he is POTENTIAL only. How is that a flip flop? Just because a player hasn't yet played in the league doesn't make him a flop. Just look at Madsen Voracek Yandle MacDonald the last 2 years. I'm not saying MacAusland will have that kind of impact because he is 16 and starting at the bottom on the Cats lineup, but he's already proven a lot. In the pre-season?? We were talking in another thread about how great players can look in pre-season and then flop. (eg. Kristopher Schmidt). I doubt MacAusland is going to turn out like that, but don't jump the gun either. The only thing he's proven is that he's good enough to play on the Cat's 4th line. |
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Post by Captain Obvious on Sept 14, 2007 9:07:32 GMT -4
How is that a flip flop? Just because a player hasn't yet played in the league doesn't make him a flop. Just look at Madsen Voracek Yandle MacDonald the last 2 years. I'm not saying MacAusland will have that kind of impact because he is 16 and starting at the bottom on the Cats lineup, but he's already proven a lot. In the pre-season?? We were talking in another thread about how great players can look in pre-season and then flop. (eg. Kristopher Schmidt). I doubt MacAusland is going to turn out like that, but don't jump the gun either. The only thing he's proven is that he's good enough to play on the Cat's 4th line. It has nothing to do with preseason because he's been out with a groin injury and hasn't played a preseason game. He was one of the top players at the Canada Games last year at 15 with the best 16 year olds from across Canada(including Pietrangelo Tessier Poulin Sauve Stamkos Tavarez etc). |
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Post by chsb on Sept 14, 2007 9:58:03 GMT -4
In the pre-season?? We were talking in another thread about how great players can look in pre-season and then flop. (eg. Kristopher Schmidt). I doubt MacAusland is going to turn out like that, but don't jump the gun either. The only thing he's proven is that he's good enough to play on the Cat's 4th line. It has nothing to do with preseason because he's been out with a groin injury and hasn't played a preseason game. He was one of the top players at the Canada Games last year at 15 with the best 16 year olds from across Canada(including Pietrangelo Tessier Poulin Sauve Stamkos Tavarez etc). It still does not mean squat as he was playing against 16 YO defensemen and goaltenders..... WE are talking here of a League dominated by 19 YOs and OAs.... MacAusland will probably be good down the road, but he has not proven squat so far in this League. |
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Post by Captain Obvious on Sept 14, 2007 10:05:45 GMT -4
It has nothing to do with preseason because he's been out with a groin injury and hasn't played a preseason game. He was one of the top players at the Canada Games last year at 15 with the best 16 year olds from across Canada(including Pietrangelo Tessier Poulin Sauve Stamkos Tavarez etc). It still does not mean squat as he was playing against 16 YO defensemen and goaltenders..... WE are talking here of a League dominated by 19 YOs and OAs.... MacAusland will probably be good down the road, but he has not proven squat so far in this League. As I said "this league" is not the only place a player can prove himself. I even gave you a pile of examples. |
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Post by Porkchop on Sept 14, 2007 10:46:06 GMT -4
It still does not mean squat as he was playing against 16 YO defensemen and goaltenders..... WE are talking here of a League dominated by 19 YOs and OAs.... MacAusland will probably be good down the road, but he has not proven squat so far in this League. As I said "this league" is not the only place a player can prove himself. I even gave you a pile of examples. Forget the whole "this league" thing then and change it to "this level"...... |
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Post by Porkchop on Sept 14, 2007 10:49:46 GMT -4
Just another flip flop by Billy........If I had some time I'd go back and see where you said exactly the same thing I did above.........right now he is POTENTIAL only. How is that a flip flop? Just because a player hasn't yet played in the league doesn't make him a flop. Just look at Madsen Voracek Yandle MacDonald the last 2 years. I'm not saying MacAusland will have that kind of impact because he is 16 and starting at the bottom on the Cats lineup, but he's already proven a lot. I never said he'd be a flop did I?.......your flip flop comes from a while back when we were talking about some of the new young guys coming up through the Titan ranks.......at that time guys like Dorion, Clendenning, Labrie, etc., that we were saying would be good players in this league, you were saying that they had the potential, but hadn't proved anything at this level yet.......now the tables have turned, we're talking about a Moncton player and all of a sudden, he has already proved himself in a lower level, without even playing an exhibition game at this level......... I'm not saying nothing bad about your guy.......all I'm saying is that he has the potential to be a very good Q player, but has yet to prove it. |
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Post by Captain Obvious on Sept 14, 2007 10:58:17 GMT -4
How is that a flip flop? Just because a player hasn't yet played in the league doesn't make him a flop. Just look at Madsen Voracek Yandle MacDonald the last 2 years. I'm not saying MacAusland will have that kind of impact because he is 16 and starting at the bottom on the Cats lineup, but he's already proven a lot. I never said he'd be a flop did I?.......your flip flop comes from a while back when we were talking about some of the new young guys coming up through the Titan ranks.......at that time guys like Dorion, Clendenning, Labrie, etc., that we were saying would be good players in this league, you were saying that they had the potential, but hadn't proved anything at this level yet.......now the tables have turned, we're talking about a Moncton player and all of a sudden, he has already proved himself in a lower level, without even playing an exhibition game at this level......... I'm not saying nothing bad about your guy.......all I'm saying is that he has the potential to be a very good Q player, but has yet to prove it. You're making up crap to back up your shit disturbing posts. I never doubted that Labrie and Clendenning would be good Q players, I liked both in MAAA and said they had the necessary tools and character. I never said anything about the Q, I said that there were no 6'3" guys with equal talent where he was drafted. You are so caught up in shit disturbing you overlook what my original point was. |
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