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Post by berner on Aug 17, 2007 11:35:47 GMT -4
I see were you get your handle  It actually makes me laugh to think Halifax even wants Sparling. I'm having a hard time rationalizing any trades between us. The only player I can think of that would help you, that we'd bewilling to give up, is Fullerton, but he's not proven enough to convince anyone. Fullerton is worse than the two goalies Halifax has now (well, maybe not Kennedy, but certainly worse than Yetman) plus with Pelletier coming in, Fullerton wouldn't even dress. When the Pelletier deal is completed, there is another player heading to Drummondville, and if it's PJ Corsi, then I could see the need for Sparling. They are pretty similkar players, and Sparling's bashers here, say the same things about him, that were said about Corsi when he came to Halifax, and Corsi was able to round out his game in the 2nd half last year. If the deal goes through, and Saint John recieves a player for Sparling, it would likely be Justin Pender. Pender would be you #4 defenceman, behind Grant, Sauve, and Stich. Play ahead of Rioux and probably knock McNeil off your team (I'd assume Amyot would be getting regular minutes. If Pender isn't the guy, and the deal does happen than I would think it'll be a draft pick for Sparling. I honesly think that if Sparling was dealt on his own JB would be looking for a pick. The only way I could see another body coming this way is if the Dogs packaged Sparling with something else for more of an impact player. Another DMan the Dogs really don't need imo. As another poster said earlier, I too have a hard time rationalizing any kind of a trade between Halifax and SJ that involves Sparling. |
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Post by dogbert on Aug 17, 2007 11:54:42 GMT -4
I think Fullerton played really solid last year or was it that Joyal and Barton were just that bad that it made Fullerton look better He played great and for a full game. IMO he's a step up on both Halifax keepers, but as I said, he has the reputation of a career backup. We have all kinds of bodies that can play. I'd trade Sparling for a 2nd pick. |
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Post by Smiley on Aug 17, 2007 12:03:21 GMT -4
How about you come down to reality. I am still laughing my ass off at this!  I see were you get your handle It actually makes me laugh to think Halifax even wants Sparling. I'm having a hard time rationalizing any trades between us. The only player I can think of that would help you, that we'd bewilling to give up, is Fullerton, but he's not proven enough to convince anyone. The only scenario where Halifax acquiring Sparling could make sense if Corsi is dealt in the Pelletier trade. Halifax has an extremely good offensive lineup already, with a lot of depth. Although I wouldn't complain if Halifax acquired another offensive player...because the offense becomes that more potent, and they wouldn't need to sacrifice the future to get a player like Marchand. I am not comparing Sparling to Marchand, just saying if Halifax is solid from lines 1-4 there wouldn't be the need to add him. It would be a hard lineup to match up against. If you put your checkers against Voracek, Hillier and Swan can light you up. You can put your top 4 D against the top 2 lines, but line 3 has a few players with the potential to score 20 goals. |
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Post by dogbert on Aug 17, 2007 14:01:22 GMT -4
I see were you get your handle It actually makes me laugh to think Halifax even wants Sparling. I'm having a hard time rationalizing any trades between us. The only player I can think of that would help you, that we'd bewilling to give up, is Fullerton, but he's not proven enough to convince anyone. The only scenario where Halifax acquiring Sparling could make sense if Corsi is dealt in the Pelletier trade. Halifax has an extremely good offensive lineup already, with a lot of depth. Although I wouldn't complain if Halifax acquired another offensive player...because the offense becomes that more potent, and they wouldn't need to sacrifice the future to get a player like Marchand. I am not comparing Sparling to Marchand, just saying if Halifax is solid from lines 1-4 there wouldn't be the need to add him. It would be a hard lineup to match up against. If you put your checkers against Voracek, Hillier and Swan can light you up. You can put your top 4 D against the top 2 lines, but line 3 has a few players with the potential to score 20 goals. I know what you are talking about. We have the exact same problem. |
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Post by lalalaprise on Aug 17, 2007 17:34:08 GMT -4
I see were you get your handle It actually makes me laugh to think Halifax even wants Sparling. I'm having a hard time rationalizing any trades between us. The only player I can think of that would help you, that we'd bewilling to give up, is Fullerton, but he's not proven enough to convince anyone. The only scenario where Halifax acquiring Sparling could make sense if Corsi is dealt in the Pelletier trade. Halifax has an extremely good offensive lineup already, with a lot of depth. Although I wouldn't complain if Halifax acquired another offensive player...because the offense becomes that more potent, and they wouldn't need to sacrifice the future to get a player like Marchand. I am not comparing Sparling to Marchand, just saying if Halifax is solid from lines 1-4 there wouldn't be the need to add him. It would be a hard lineup to match up against. If you put your checkers against Voracek, Hillier and Swan can light you up. You can put your top 4 D against the top 2 lines, but line 3 has a few players with the potential to score 20 goals. And from what ive heard Corsi isnt part of the Pelletier deal. And I agree...if Sparling is added to the Mooseheads roster, he is likely their 8th forward...him and Corsi are similar type players so adding him wouldnt really make sense. Agreed about Marchand...there is always room for a top line player...so if Marchand is added than great...but when you're adding a 3rd line player who is no better than your current 3rd liner players it doesnt make sense  |
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Post by lalalaprise on Aug 17, 2007 17:36:25 GMT -4
Sorry but Fullerton is better then Yetman to, right now anyway IMO. Debateable...Yetman's only played 20 Q games...plus hes a year younger...at worst its a wash anyway and Yetman doesnt take a 20 spot. |
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Post by Y Ddraig Goch on Aug 17, 2007 17:44:20 GMT -4
Sorry but Fullerton is better then Yetman to, right now anyway IMO. Fullerton is not better than Yetman and the fact he's 20 makes it an even more absured statement. |
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Post by LiskeIsMyHero on Aug 17, 2007 18:03:38 GMT -4
Id much rather have Fullerton then Yetman as a 20. Yetman didnt prove much. Fullerton was an awesome back up goalie for Lewy. People have different oppinions. Some say the dogs will come last, 6th, 5th, one guy even said 2nd.
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Post by lalalaprise on Aug 17, 2007 18:06:57 GMT -4
Id much rather have Fullerton then Yetman as a 20. Yetman didnt prove much. Fullerton was an awesome back up goalie for Lewy. People have different oppinions. Some say the dogs will come last, 6th, 5th, one guy even said 2nd. Yeah but Yetman isn't 20 Who knows how he will develop over the course of the season. In January he was ok, but by playoffs he was solid...in 3 months he developed...whos to say he wont keep developing? Fullerton has been in the league for 2 years now and hes kind of regressed if not stayed the same. On one hand you know what you have with Fullerton...Yetman is an unknown because he hasnt had much game action...he could either stay the same or take off with more playing time. |
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Post by Judas In My Mind on Aug 17, 2007 18:13:22 GMT -4
Id much rather have Fullerton then Yetman as a 20. Yetman didnt prove much. Fullerton was an awesome back up goalie for Lewy. People have different oppinions. Some say the dogs will come last, 6th, 5th, one guy even said 2nd. Yeah but Yetman isn't 20 Who knows how he will develop over the course of the season. In January he was ok, but by playoffs he was solid...in 3 months he developed...whos to say he wont keep developing? Fullerton has been in the league for 2 years now and hes kind of regressed if not stayed the same. On one hand you know what you have with Fullerton...Yetman is an unknown because he hasnt had much game action...he could either stay the same or take off with more playing time. You forgot one other possibility. Yetman could also choke hard this year with the pressure of being a starting goalie on a team expected to finish in first place or very near the top if they manage to get one thing...goaltending. I doubt it will come to that though because I can't see Halifax going with a tandem of Yetman/Kennedy. With all the other pieces in place it makes no sense for them to leave goaltending as a question mark. Safe to say they should even overpay if needed to get an established netminder. |
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Post by LiskeIsMyHero on Aug 17, 2007 18:13:32 GMT -4
Fullerton stayed the same true. He was on a bad team. If he was on a good team last year like Lewy as a back up his stats would be amazing. Its just the team he plays for. He stole alot of games for us. allmost every game that he won he was awesome. Got like top 3 stars 3 games in a row and lost 2 of them.
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Post by Y Ddraig Goch on Aug 17, 2007 18:16:45 GMT -4
Id much rather have Fullerton then Yetman as a 20. Yetman didnt prove much. Fullerton was an awesome back up goalie for Lewy. People have different oppinions. Some say the dogs will come last, 6th, 5th, one guy even said 2nd. Yetman's 19, Fullerton is 20. It's a no-brainer. Fullerton's never proved anything either. Everyone says how good Fullerton was last season but .874 isn't exactly a great save percentage and Yetman's was considerably better. Fullerton's only ever shown he is no mor than a back-up goaltender. He's done nothing to show he is better than Yetman, which he isn't. So why on earth would the Mooseheads in a contending year want to go with a 20-year-old backup as their goaltender? |
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Post by Murph on Aug 17, 2007 19:17:06 GMT -4
Id much rather have Fullerton then Yetman as a 20. Yetman didnt prove much. Fullerton was an awesome back up goalie for Lewy. People have different oppinions. Some say the dogs will come last, 6th, 5th, one guy even said 2nd. Fullerton is a career backup. How is this even a debate? The debate would be Fullerton vs Kennedy, and even then, you take Kennedy because he's 19. Any possible argument for Fullerton as the guy is complete homer-ish. To even suggest that Fullerton would be a better fit on the Mooseheads is a joke. Yetman, has half a season experience. He's won a playoff series. Has Fullerton even played a playoff minute in two seasons? How can you say with a straight face the Yetman hasn't accomplished anything in your pro-Fullerton argument. Fullerton has accomplished even less, and Fullerton has 1.5 years more experience in the Q. Yetman was up and down towards the end of last season, but he showed enough potential. He played more games in a short priod of time than he ever has, and he didn't seem to have to conditioning required to play in this league. How many times have you watched Yetman play? Once.... if that. What exactly Are you basing your opinion on? |
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Post by berner on Aug 17, 2007 20:05:09 GMT -4
I'd have to say that Sea Dog fans would be higher on Fullerton than any one else. Mainly because he came in to take over for the Joyal/Barton duo, which imo was easily worse than the Churchill/Whitlock duo we had in our opening year. Fullerton played well most nights for the Dogs, so as a fan it's easy to over-rate him when you're used to seeing soft goals nightly, many nights more than one. Having said that, some nights Fullerton just plain stunk, but more often than not he was steady with the odd great save. A huge improvement in Sea Dog land.
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Post by canucklehead on Aug 17, 2007 20:22:37 GMT -4
If it were up to me and I was on a contending team and wanted to win this year I wouldn't wanna rely on either of them Fullerton or Yetman so I guess it's a safe thing to call it a wash. I agree with the point made that after watching so many soft goals allowed by Joyal and Barton that it would be easy for fans to over rate a guy like Fullerton although he did do a respectable job last year despite the save pct.
If Sparling goes I wouldn't expect much more than a 2nd RD pick from the Mooseheads if the trade happens and it may also be why the Sea Dogs picked up Francis Charland if healthy he'll be better than Sparling.
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