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Post by CrazyJoeDavola on Mar 12, 2010 13:20:17 GMT -4
Yeah this year Bathurst is a better team than us. Thats the nature of the Q you have building years, and you have years you make a run. In years like this we have to take credit in we are one of the best Organizations in the Q. That is not really something up for debate. You take out Bathrurst and Pei(or any other team besides Quebec) and the Q would still survive. You take out the Remapart and Mooseheads, and the Q is nothing but a fancy Midget league. We are the not here to win every year we are here to be one of the most stable organization year after year. Even when the team suck we still do ok at the gates. At the gates is about the only place for the Mooseheads where credit is due this season.....it has been a very harsh rebuilding for your team and the light is still not on at the end of the tunnel....the Titan did much worse at the gate, but better in their rebuilding. While the losing has worn out its welcome at this point, you didnt see too much complaining here. The team was exciting and hardworking and were competitive in many games they probably shouldnt have been. Many of our 16-17 years olds played big roles for us especially on defense. Next year we will have pretty solid goaltending whether we stick with delmas or corbeil. We will have a #1/2 draft pick and a top euro pick in the lineup (worst case scenario being Knotek stays, whos had a very good year being `the`guy, and the euro pick is moved). What will Bathurst do without Faille`s 58 minutes a game? Will be interesting...
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Post by defresh101 on Mar 12, 2010 13:35:25 GMT -4
No light at the end of the Tunnel. Wow. like Crazy said about our draft picks already. Plus we have 2 goalies and not sure which one to go with. One is already drafted, and the other is expected to go very high compared to his peers(goalie peers). We have Gabe D, Andrews and Gelinas who have just shown slim glimmers to what their capable of. We are losing less talent than any other team in the Q before the Draft. We are the worst team this year, but what are we losing Linden Bahm, and guess Knotek(thats a loss but yet debatable for many reasons). I have not complained much if at all during our rebuild. Never been so happy for our future. I do get annoyed with Bathurst fans going on about us. Like I said yes you are better. But your organization is truly in bad shape. And the only reason we argue you with you as for the last 2 years we have been the worst rebuilding team. Which makes us the team worst than the Titan. Hopefully in 2 years from now you will be arguing with fans of another rebuilding bottom dweller, and Halifax fans will have forgot all about a useless Titan organization.
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Post by chsb on Mar 12, 2010 15:29:20 GMT -4
No light at the end of the Tunnel. Wow. like Crazy said about our draft picks already. Plus we have 2 goalies and not sure which one to go with. One is already drafted, and the other is expected to go very high compared to his peers(goalie peers). We have Gabe D, Andrews and Gelinas who have just shown slim glimmers to what their capable of. We are losing less talent than any other team in the Q before the Draft. We are the worst team this year, but what are we losing Linden Bahm, and guess Knotek(thats a loss but yet debatable for many reasons). I have not complained much if at all during our rebuild. Never been so happy for our future. I do get annoyed with Bathurst fans going on about us. Like I said yes you are better. But your organization is truly in bad shape. And the only reason we argue you with you as for the last 2 years we have been the worst rebuilding team. Which makes us the team worst than the Titan. Hopefully in 2 years from now you will be arguing with fans of another rebuilding bottom dweller, and Halifax fans will have forgot all about a useless Titan organization. Again, how can you say that your team is the one losing the least players for next season? You have 1 OA Bahm who is gone and you have 7 of 19YO: Delmas,Stoddard,Knotek,Grant,Bety,Amyot,Dimitruk.....only 3 of these can be back. The Titan, on the other hand, have 2 OAs in Faille and McKiernan and 4 of 19 YO in Malka,Malouin,Tanel and Lambke. I would submit that you are spreading a myth here which is inaccurate.
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Post by CrazyJoeDavola on Mar 12, 2010 15:32:24 GMT -4
No light at the end of the Tunnel. Wow. like Crazy said about our draft picks already. Plus we have 2 goalies and not sure which one to go with. One is already drafted, and the other is expected to go very high compared to his peers(goalie peers). We have Gabe D, Andrews and Gelinas who have just shown slim glimmers to what their capable of. We are losing less talent than any other team in the Q before the Draft. We are the worst team this year, but what are we losing Linden Bahm, and guess Knotek(thats a loss but yet debatable for many reasons). I have not complained much if at all during our rebuild. Never been so happy for our future. I do get annoyed with Bathurst fans going on about us. Like I said yes you are better. But your organization is truly in bad shape. And the only reason we argue you with you as for the last 2 years we have been the worst rebuilding team. Which makes us the team worst than the Titan. Hopefully in 2 years from now you will be arguing with fans of another rebuilding bottom dweller, and Halifax fans will have forgot all about a useless Titan organization. Again, how can you say that your team is the one losing the least players for next season? You have 1 OA Bahm who is gone and you have 7 of 19YO: Delmas,Stoddard,Knotek,Grant,Bety,Amyot,Dimitruk.....only 3 of these can be back. The Titan, on the other hand, have 2 OAs in Faille and McKiernan and 4 of 19 YO in Malka,Malouin,Tanel and Lambke. I would submit that you are spreading a myth here which is inaccurate. He said less `talent`... meaning the core of our best players will still be here, plus a top euro and midget pick.
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Post by defresh101 on Mar 12, 2010 15:48:26 GMT -4
CrazyJoe is once again right. Not players Talent. Costello McGuiggan etc they could even not come back. Dont care how many players go. Its the Talent. And so far only talent to go is Bahm and Knotek.
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Post by Jacques Strap on Mar 12, 2010 15:50:34 GMT -4
Yeah this year Bathurst is a better team than us. Thats the nature of the Q you have building years, and you have years you make a run. In years like this we have to take credit in we are one of the best Organizations in the Q. That is not really something up for debate. You take out Bathrurst and Pei(or any other team besides Quebec) and the Q would still survive. You take out the Remapart and Mooseheads, and the Q is nothing but a fancy Midget league. We are the not here to win every year we are here to be one of the most stable organization year after year. Even when the team suck we still do ok at the gates. At the gates is about the only place for the Mooseheads where credit is due this season.....it has been a very harsh rebuilding for your team and the light is still not on at the end of the tunnel....the Titan did much worse at the gate, but better in their rebuilding. If I were you I would be worried that you will still have a team to watch rebuild in the next couple of years if the attendance stays the way it has been going in Bathurst.
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Post by chsb on Mar 12, 2010 16:11:47 GMT -4
CrazyJoe is once again right. Not players Talent. Costello McGuiggan etc they could even not come back. Dont care how many players go. Its the Talent. And so far only talent to go is Bahm and Knotek. So you keep all your 19 YOs as OAs next season?
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Post by chsb on Mar 12, 2010 16:13:50 GMT -4
At the gates is about the only place for the Mooseheads where credit is due this season.....it has been a very harsh rebuilding for your team and the light is still not on at the end of the tunnel....the Titan did much worse at the gate, but better in their rebuilding. If I were you I would be worried that you will still have a team to watch rebuild in the next couple of years if the attendance stays the way it has been going in Bathurst. What does the attendance have to do with the performance on the ice? What does it have to do with the team that the Titan will ice next season? You are getting boring with that...as fans there is nothing we can do about it and we do not need to be reminded of attendance every time we speak about the team on the ice.
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Post by lalalaprise on Mar 12, 2010 16:14:38 GMT -4
CrazyJoe is once again right. Not players Talent. Costello McGuiggan etc they could even not come back. Dont care how many players go. Its the Talent. And so far only talent to go is Bahm and Knotek. So you keep all your 19 YOs as OAs next season? No...but not all of them are 'talented' You keep ignoring that word...
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Post by chsb on Mar 12, 2010 16:14:50 GMT -4
Again, how can you say that your team is the one losing the least players for next season? You have 1 OA Bahm who is gone and you have 7 of 19YO: Delmas,Stoddard,Knotek,Grant,Bety,Amyot,Dimitruk.....only 3 of these can be back. The Titan, on the other hand, have 2 OAs in Faille and McKiernan and 4 of 19 YO in Malka,Malouin,Tanel and Lambke. I would submit that you are spreading a myth here which is inaccurate. He said less `talent`... meaning the core of our best players will still be here, plus a top euro and midget pick. Sorry but you lose just as much talent.
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Post by lalalaprise on Mar 12, 2010 16:17:12 GMT -4
He said less `talent`... meaning the core of our best players will still be here, plus a top euro and midget pick. Sorry but you lose just as much talent. Thats up for debate, and likely cant be proven because you cant put a finite number on a players 'talent' But one thing is for sure...Nadeau and/or Lacerte is not the answer in goal for Bathurst next year. By the looks of it you guys will have a pretty good 3 line attack ... but you have 2 backup goalies and a defense, while talented, lacks a gamebreaker...and no Blain isnt a gamebreaker.
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Post by defresh101 on Mar 12, 2010 16:25:34 GMT -4
Lala cut the guy a break. He's a Titan fan he is not ignoring the word "talent". Just not a word in their vocbulary. Just joking had to say something, because hes not getting talent versus age, and the difference in the 2.
CHSB hope this helps. A 16 year old Sidney Crosby (talented) A 20 year old Daniel Smith (Over ager not talented) A 20 year old Charles Bety (next year he is Over ager, and somewhat talented for the team he is on, will be be talented enough to be an over ager that depends on who else is available at 20 .
Is this helping
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Post by chsb on Mar 12, 2010 16:32:33 GMT -4
Sorry but you lose just as much talent. Thats up for debate, and likely cant be proven because you cant put a finite number on a players 'talent' But one thing is for sure...Nadeau and/or Lacerte is not the answer in goal for Bathurst next year. By the looks of it you guys will have a pretty good 3 line attack ... but you have 2 backup goalies and a defense, while talented, lacks a gamebreaker...and no Blain isnt a gamebreaker. In all my posts so far, I did say that we would need a veteran D for the PP and I also added that the first priority would be a veteran goaltender. No need to say that I agree with you on these points.
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Post by chsb on Mar 12, 2010 16:36:53 GMT -4
Lala cut the guy a break. He's a Titan fan he is not ignoring the word "talent". Just not a word in their vocbulary. Just joking had to say something, because hes not getting talent versus age, and the difference in the 2. CHSB hope this helps. A 16 year old Sidney Crosby (talented) A 20 year old Daniel Smith (Over ager not talented) A 20 year old Charles Bety (next year he is Over ager, and somewhat talented for the team he is on, will be be talented enough to be an over ager that depends on who else is available at 20 . Is this helping Lala does not need to cut me a break, you are the one who needs it. Compare the losses your team will suffer after this season with what the Titan will lose and it is easily comparable. I am not the one who said your team would lose the least talent, you are and it does not hold as an argument. Now, if the Titan happen to be too talented to keep some players next season, they will trade them and get a return. But 17 of 19 YO on a rebuilding team and no trade at Christmas to get younger (specially NOT trading Knotek) is somewhat bad management.
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Post by qmaniac on Mar 12, 2010 17:00:42 GMT -4
We could have the best young crop of players the Q has ever seen and still Bathurst would have a much better rebuilding plan in place. (Ps- does Bathurst have a plan anyways? Or are they content going horizontal)
Chsb has maybe the worst credentials of anyhody on here to do a talent analysis. He only knows about his beloved titan which was evident when he entered Lefebvre on Quebec's 3rd line.
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