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Post by MikeC on May 30, 2010 19:30:35 GMT -4
I am not that bored but I took a quick look at the 05 to 07 drafts. 2005 Tomy Joly 3rd round #51 2006 Kelsey Tessier 4th round #66 2007 Jake Allen 3rd round #40 I lot of players who end up being Q stars did not get drafted early. Drafting midget age players is tougher then making a pick at the NHL draft, IMO. Good scouts are not always right on every pick, but I think if they hit a homerun every few years they are good at what they do. I'm not sure what you did there, and I'm not sure that's what I meant. Say Halifax drafted 'by the book' in 2005 (and no other team did). With their 1st round pick, 17th overall, they would have taken Brad Malone as he was the highest ranked player left. With their 2nd round pick, 34th overall, they would have taken Simon Danis-Pepin. If you eliminate him because of his clear NCAA intentions, they would have taken Bruno Desjardins.
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Post by Deleted on May 30, 2010 20:10:07 GMT -4
Sorry MikeC, My point was different then yours, should not have quoted you. I was not referring to the rankings moreso how the teams picked.
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Post by sharrow on May 30, 2010 22:17:48 GMT -4
The Moose have had the most extensive and expensive scouting dept in the whole CHL and hardly had any picks in the last ten years so what was your point again ??
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Post by howitzer on May 30, 2010 23:09:56 GMT -4
The Moose have had the most extensive and expensive scouting dept in the whole CHL and hardly had any picks in the last ten years so what was your point again ?? Why do you have to argue every topic on this board? Every team in the CHL has a scouting staff, every team in the NHL has a scouting staff. Hell, most teams in any competitive league around the world will employ a scouting staff. They obviously serve a purpose. But yet you'll come on here and argue about their importance for the next 4-5 days.
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Post by canucklehead on May 31, 2010 8:27:13 GMT -4
thechronicleherald.ca/Sports/1184949.htmlRussell is excited about the draft apparently ... go figure lol Seems pretty positive on everyone's points whether it be goal scorer, playmaker, defenseman ... He's not gonna drop to far down if he does trade down and it seems to me he's going to draft the best player available according to their list ... Not the CSR List!
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Post by lalalaprise on May 31, 2010 8:31:22 GMT -4
Whats interesting is all the hoopla surrounding this years draft for Halifax...its really not that uncommon for teams to have 5 picks in the top 3 rounds...but I guess when you're used to have 2 max it adds some added flair to draft day I hope some people are patient with these kids...even 2nd rd picks need time to develop...I dont like seeing wording such as: 'People are anxious to find out what elite prospect they can look forward to following during the 2010-11 season and beyond' I wouldnt consider 2nd rd picks elite...perhaps some folks are setting the bar a tad high.
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Post by sharrow on May 31, 2010 9:03:14 GMT -4
They can be if you pick right don't you remember Alex Tanquay or Brandon Reid and hopefully we pick right this time around.
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Post by lalalaprise on May 31, 2010 9:05:29 GMT -4
They can be if you pick right don't you remember Alex Tanquay or Brandon Reid and hopefully we pick right this time around. And 12th rd picks can be elite picks too if you pick Jonathan Audy-Marchesseault... Any pick can end up being elite if you pick the right guy and he develops as planned or even better than planned... But my point was you shouldnt consider a 2nd rd pick as elite..
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Post by fireball on May 31, 2010 9:30:45 GMT -4
Hopefully the Mooseheads did their homework and maybe get lucky with some late round picks.
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Post by Gman on May 31, 2010 10:56:14 GMT -4
Whats interesting is all the hoopla surrounding this years draft for Halifax...its really not that uncommon for teams to have 5 picks in the top 3 rounds...but I guess when you're used to have 2 max it adds some added flair to draft day I hope some people are patient with these kids...even 2nd rd picks need time to develop...I dont like seeing wording such as: 'People are anxious to find out what elite prospect they can look forward to following during the 2010-11 season and beyond' I wouldnt consider 2nd rd picks elite...perhaps some folks are setting the bar a tad high. I think he was just referring to the 2nd overall pick with that statement. Ideally, a pick that high should be an elite player for a few seasons, but obviously they need time to adjust to the league. They aren't going to be elite right away, or maybe not at all (Dannick Jasmin-Riel)
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Post by Jack Bauer on May 31, 2010 10:57:54 GMT -4
Whats interesting is all the hoopla surrounding this years draft for Halifax...its really not that uncommon for teams to have 5 picks in the top 3 rounds...but I guess when you're used to have 2 max it adds some added flair to draft day I hope some people are patient with these kids...even 2nd rd picks need time to develop...I dont like seeing wording such as: 'People are anxious to find out what elite prospect they can look forward to following during the 2010-11 season and beyond' I wouldnt consider 2nd rd picks elite...perhaps some folks are setting the bar a tad high. I think he was just referring to the 2nd overall pick with that statement. Ideally, a pick that high should be an elite player for a few seasons, but obviously they need time to adjust to the league. They aren't going to be elite right away, or maybe not at all (Dannick Jasmin-Riel) Don't forget Alex Lamontagne
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Post by crash on May 31, 2010 11:08:53 GMT -4
thechronicleherald.ca/Sports/1184949.htmlRussell is excited about the draft apparently ... go figure lol Seems pretty positive on everyone's points whether it be goal scorer, playmaker, defenseman ... He's not gonna drop to far down if he does trade down and it seems to me he's going to draft the best player available according to their list ... Not the CSR List! Russell talked about every possibility except one, trading up with BC. He seemed not to be interested in specifically in what BC was going to do, that the Mooseheads would adjust after BC made their pick. Given that GM's at this time of year try to throw the dogs off the scent, maybe he is actually considering it. Go Moose.
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Post by Murph on May 31, 2010 13:43:57 GMT -4
Whats interesting is all the hoopla surrounding this years draft for Halifax...its really not that uncommon for teams to have 5 picks in the top 3 rounds...but I guess when you're used to have 2 max it adds some added flair to draft day I hope some people are patient with these kids...even 2nd rd picks need time to develop...I dont like seeing wording such as: 'People are anxious to find out what elite prospect they can look forward to following during the 2010-11 season and beyond' I wouldnt consider 2nd rd picks elite...perhaps some folks are setting the bar a tad high. I think he was just referring to the 2nd overall pick with that statement. Ideally, a pick that high should be an elite player for a few seasons, but obviously they need time to adjust to the league. They aren't going to be elite right away, or maybe not at all (Dannick Jasmin-Riel) Jasmin-Riel quit for personal reasons though, not because he sucked and couldn't have played. He was just under a ppg as an 18 year old (half a season). Just looking at the last 10, 2nd overall picks though: 2000- Pierre-Marc Bouchard- awesome player, no question. However so good, that he only played two years. From Chicoutimi's perspective, they would have been better off with say, Maxime Talbot, who went 8th. 2001- Danick Jasmin-Riel- seemed to project as a quality power forward, however quit half way through his 18 year old season after his parents were both killed in a car crash. 2002- Brent Aubin- Solid pick. 5 year player. 2003- Guillaume Latendresse- Never really blossomed in the Q. Went to the NHL early, and was really a bust of a pick for Drummondville, in terms of what they recieved. You kind of expect more than 1 big year out of an elite player. 2004- Alex Lamontagne- solid player, but more of a 3rd or 4th rounder. Never turned into anything better than a #4 defenceman. 2005- Mathieu Perrault- High end player.... however, if you go by sharrow's assessment of the CSR lists, Perrault was a "reach" at #2 for Bathurst. Good thing they have their own scouts. 2006- Phillippe Cornet- quality 4 year player. 2007- Phillippe Lefevbre- Still hard to judge, but last season wasn't overly great for him. Will need big years at 19 and 20 to justify the pick. 2008- Sean Couturier- Great pick. Will give at least 2 high end years. Likely to leave early. 2009- Yannick Veilleux- hard to judge as of yet. Thus far, not overly impressive. In terms of elite level player, there have been (IMO) 6 of that type of player taken out of 10 picks (jury still out of two, but doesn`t look good as of now for both) and three of those 6 elite guys, will or will likely leave early. Only Aubin, Perrault (close with K. Marshall) and Couturier appear to have been the best choices out of those 10 picks.
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Post by Qfan69 on May 31, 2010 20:06:40 GMT -4
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Post by howitzer on May 31, 2010 20:55:21 GMT -4
With Lewiston shipping Roy to Bathurst (have no idea why, but whatever) I'm wondering does that bring the Lewy into the picture as potential trade partners for Corbeil?
Couple reasons why I think it might:
1) They still need a goalie, and with Roy done in the Q after this season, they might look to Corbeil as an option as he's got a better chance to play as a 20.
2) They have a glut of good young forwards that would be of interst to us.
3) Along with needing a goalie they are thin on the backend. Beyond Finn and Carrier they have a bunch of no names. We happen to have some defensive depth, and young guys too, who would fit with their young core.
4) I think Cam would be more motivated in trading out of division. That's not to say if a good deal is there with a divisional team he wouldn't make it, but all things being equal, you'd rather trade out of division with any signifigant deal.
Some food for thought anyway.
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