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Post by Deleted on May 5, 2010 19:56:18 GMT -4
My bad...still irrelevant when he was picked...Greer was a bust...it doesn't have any relation to Matheson. I know- the question is this, is Matheson a 4 year player or could he be in the NHL at 19?
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Post by lalalaprise on May 5, 2010 20:04:46 GMT -4
My bad...still irrelevant when he was picked...Greer was a bust...it doesn't have any relation to Matheson. I know- the question is this, is Matheson a 4 year player or could he be in the NHL at 19? Too early to say. My pet peeve is when someone watches a 15 year old player and says 'this kid is going to play in the nhl' let alone play there at 19. Making it to the show is extremely rare, so you cant really make drafting decisions based on whether you feel the kid is going to jump to the pro game early. A good example is Pierre-Marc Bouchard. When he was drafted back in 2000, im sure people felt he would be a 5 year player based on his size and he ende dup making the NHL at 18.
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Post by sharrow on May 5, 2010 20:12:05 GMT -4
It clearly states in my post OUR FIRST PICK IN THE SECOND ROUND, and I'm more concerned that we did not address our major NEED which was a goalie than Richard Greer being a bust. As far As Gilbert goes it was YOU that gave bad reviews on Gilbert advising that he was soft and was overrated at # 10 in the 1st round, now I ask you how do you like him now, Sly is waiting for your call.
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Post by lalalaprise on May 5, 2010 20:24:10 GMT -4
It clearly states in my post OUR FIRST PICK IN THE SECOND ROUND, and I'm more concerned that we did not address our major NEED which was a goalie than Richard Greer being a bust. As far As Gilbert goes it was YOU that gave bad reviews on Gilbert advising that he was soft and was overrated at # 10 in the 1st round, now I ask you how do you like him now, Sly is waiting for your call. I was bang on with Gilbert...I was way wrong on Greer... Youre good at bringing up old posts...bring up the post after the 2007 draft...i was bang on with Gilbert, Randell and Corbeil...yet you decided to quote the section on Greer... Dont expect less from you....this thread is filled with lots of ammo for you in case someone doesnt develop as planned...im sure you have it bookmarked.
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Post by howitzer on May 5, 2010 20:25:24 GMT -4
It clearly states in my post OUR FIRST PICK IN THE SECOND ROUND, and I'm more concerned that we did not address our major NEED which was a goalie than Richard Greer being a bust. As far As Gilbert goes it was YOU that gave bad reviews on Gilbert advising that he was soft and was overrated at # 10 in the 1st round, now I ask you how do you like him now, Sly is waiting for your call. It wasn't just lala saying he was lazy and lacked work ethic. Most, if not all the reviews on Gilbert going into the draft said he had all the talent, but lacked work ethic.
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Post by lalalaprise on May 5, 2010 20:28:42 GMT -4
It clearly states in my post OUR FIRST PICK IN THE SECOND ROUND, and I'm more concerned that we did not address our major NEED which was a goalie than Richard Greer being a bust. As far As Gilbert goes it was YOU that gave bad reviews on Gilbert advising that he was soft and was overrated at # 10 in the 1st round, now I ask you how do you like him now, Sly is waiting for your call. It wasn't just lala saying he was lazy and lacked work ethic. Most, if not all the reviews on Gilbert going into the draft said he had all the talent, but lacked work ethic. And those reviews proved to be right....ill take 2.5 years of hockey over 0.5 anyday...
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Post by howitzer on May 5, 2010 20:29:52 GMT -4
It clearly states in my post OUR FIRST PICK IN THE SECOND ROUND, and I'm more concerned that we did not address our major NEED which was a goalie than Richard Greer being a bust. As far As Gilbert goes it was YOU that gave bad reviews on Gilbert advising that he was soft and was overrated at # 10 in the 1st round, now I ask you how do you like him now, Sly is waiting for your call. I was bang on with Gilbert...I was way wrong on Greer... Youre good at bringing up old posts...bring up the post after the 2007 draft...i was bang on with Gilbert, Randell and Corbeil...yet you decided to quote the section on Greer... Dont expect less from you....this thread is filled with lots of ammo for you in case someone doesnt develop as planned...im sure you have it bookmarked. Just to let you know, Greer will forever haunt you, because if sharrow ever forgets (will never happen, but) I'll make sure to hold you accountable for that blunder lol ;D Seriously though, you were right on Randall, Gilbert and Corbeil. In actual fact it seems like you liked Corbeil more back then, then you do now.
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Post by lalalaprise on May 5, 2010 20:35:01 GMT -4
I was bang on with Gilbert...I was way wrong on Greer... Youre good at bringing up old posts...bring up the post after the 2007 draft...i was bang on with Gilbert, Randell and Corbeil...yet you decided to quote the section on Greer... Dont expect less from you....this thread is filled with lots of ammo for you in case someone doesnt develop as planned...im sure you have it bookmarked. Just to let you know, Greer will forever haunt you, because if sharrow ever forgets (will never happen, but) I'll make sure to hold you accountable for that blunder lol ;D Seriously though, you were right on Randall, Gilbert and Corbeil. In actual fact it seems like you liked Corbeil more back then, then you do now. I watched Greer at the CSR that year...he was great...wish I had video of it cause its probably the two best games hes ever played in his life. CSR ranked him an A prospect the entire season and he was picked in the top 25... If you were to be flawless on all your projections youd end up with too many players after 3 drafts...
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Post by canbeer on May 5, 2010 22:39:18 GMT -4
I don't think the Greer reports were completely out of left field... he showed he was a great skater at his first camp and played well but you could see he was physically overmatched. The kid barely got any time playing at 16 and was I think injured and sick going into his second season which equaled a slow start and he didn't gain any size. I think if he was healthy and could have put on some weigh that he would have been ok.
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Post by Haligonian on May 6, 2010 7:30:16 GMT -4
Would be nice to see some posters (that have seen some players play) make their own top 18 list just to see where others have the top players ranked.
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Post by Qfan69 on May 6, 2010 8:43:37 GMT -4
The draft is a month away and I'm glad that some posters are not making the decisions at the Moose draft table, Funny everyone else is glad your not calling the shots. Mr. FORWARD, FORWARD FORWARD. Some how you know it all, from who to pick how to get another pick in the first round with out giving up any of the picks we have in the first 3 rounds or any good players but you have yet to say how this can be done? You also seem to think that once get kids who could score in midget AAA can come in and rip it up this year even when you have been here since day one and should be able to tell that, that only happens once and a while. Ie Tanguay, Reid, Troni, Vrana, Picard, Bodnarchuk are only to name a few who came in as rookies and impact the team. If you look at the name i put up only 2 was 16 year old. Didn't put Jake there because well he was said to be one of the best players in the world his age at the time. What I'm getting at here is no one in this draft has that efect besides maybe Matheson, everyone else is maybe next year they'll be good.
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Post by howitzer on May 6, 2010 10:34:27 GMT -4
Would be nice to see some posters (that have seen some players play) make their own top 18 list just to see where others have the top players ranked. That would be nice, but I'm not sure enough people on these boards have seen enough of the top prospects to make lists and compare them. Lala is probably the only one on here who could comment first hand on some of these players, and I don't even know if he's seen them all in person himself.
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Post by Haligonian on May 6, 2010 11:16:41 GMT -4
Would be nice to see some posters (that have seen some players play) make their own top 18 list just to see where others have the top players ranked. That would be nice, but I'm not sure enough people on these boards have seen enough of the top prospects to make lists and compare them. Lala is probably the only one on here who could comment first hand on some of these players, and I don't even know if he's seen them all in person himself. Maybe I shouldn't have nailed it down to 'having seen them play' I'm sure most of us on here can make a somewhat realistic list based on things we've heard/read, stats, size, etc. Would be interesting to see.
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Post by Qfan69 on May 7, 2010 5:28:55 GMT -4
That would be nice, but I'm not sure enough people on these boards have seen enough of the top prospects to make lists and compare them. Lala is probably the only one on here who could comment first hand on some of these players, and I don't even know if he's seen them all in person himself. Maybe I shouldn't have nailed it down to 'having seen them play' I'm sure most of us on here can make a somewhat realistic list based on things we've heard/read, stats, size, etc. Would be interesting to see. I thought of another side of what your asking. From the players that are rated is there any that might slip out of the first round that we can steal at 19 like we did with Bishop last year. Bishop was rated top 10 last year but fell to 19 and Cam was really excited about being able to get him there. I got another follow up question who are good guess and good fits for picks 19,25,28, and 37? We have talk a lot about the 2nd over all pick but not much who might be there for those pick and might be a steal or a sleeper for those picks. Sadly the only one who might be able to do this is Lala I'm sure sharrow will try thou.
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Post by Deleted on May 7, 2010 6:14:22 GMT -4
Maybe I shouldn't have nailed it down to 'having seen them play' I'm sure most of us on here can make a somewhat realistic list based on things we've heard/read, stats, size, etc. Would be interesting to see. I thought of another side of what your asking. From the players that are rated is there any that might slip out of the first round that we can steal at 19 like we did with Bishop last year. Bishop was rated top 10 last year but fell to 19 and Cam was really excited about being able to get him there. I got another follow up question who are good guess and good fits for picks 19,25,28, and 37? We have talk a lot about the 2nd over all pick but not much who might be there for those pick and might be a steal or a sleeper for those picks. Sadly the only one who might be able to do this is Lala I'm sure sharrow will try thou. I have a feeling Sharrow will want defensemen drafted in the 2nd round
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