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Post by sjc on Jul 3, 2015 12:01:32 GMT -4
I would still say no. At this point anyway. They have 2 firsts in the next 2 drafts, and a good group of young guys. Play the first half with what they have, deal Donaghey at the break, maybe Timo if the price is right and they could end up with a few more but keep they core together. Get Bowers at the draft from SJ for '17 first
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Post by statsman18 on Jul 3, 2015 12:22:02 GMT -4
Here's what I'm thinking might do it.
From Halifax: -Durandeau -Halifax's 2016 1st rounder - Charlebois or Argento as throw ins
From CB -Bowers -3rd in 2017
Bowers is better then Durandea and better then Crossley. He would start off as the this line centre over Crossley. Plus if we get him maybe Dachyshyn might commit so he can play with his buddy. It could be a huge win win for Halifax.
Also if why wait for the draft, we already lost out on the big fish. He went this year. There are other guys but the main reason to hope for a good spot in the draft is gone already.
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Post by statsman18 on Jul 3, 2015 12:27:52 GMT -4
Then you might as well say your not interested in getting Bowers. If we're in on him Durandeau will have to be apart of the trade. Also CB will want at lest one of our 1st for this years draft. The fact that this years draft has already happened and the picks are already players might hold more value. Halifax has some interesting players that CB might be interested in. They are more of an asset then a player that will help them now. Guys like Lepage and Charlebois might be of use to them so they can flip them for players now. I don't see it that way. Durandeau to CB makes 0 sense. Not only is he unlikely to report to CB, but even if he does he's going to be a 12-13th forward on that team. Yea they can use him as a trade chip, but he'll be on their active roster so he'll be limited to being moved at Christmas. Lepage and Charlebois may play in midget this year, they are good trade chips, and frankly CB needs defensemen going forward. They have a 1995, 4 1996 players on the blueline, next season they will lose at least 2 of those players, likely more. Also thank you, I forgot about the trade for 5th overall. Where are you getting your info on Durandeau not reporting to CB? Why wouldn't he report? I don't see any reason to think he wouldn't. Him going there adds an asset. It either a trading chip or someone for the future. It's dumb to think CB wouldn't want him. This way they still got something to show for this draft, too.
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Post by mooseinfo on Jul 3, 2015 12:54:52 GMT -4
I'm all for getting Bowers so long as it doesn't cost us either of our 2016 first rounders (both potential lottery picks), Durandeau or Putintsev. Anything else is on the table. Use veterans to get Bowers. The Eagles have a huge hole at center in their top 6. Send Danny Moynihan and Cody Donaghey to Cape Breton. That fills their big hole up front, and Halifax could take Gosselin back who would need to be dropped to make room for DM. Donaghey not only offsets the loss of Gosselin, but upgrades their top 4 which would be very good. If I'm Halifax I don't trade those two for just Bowers and Gosselin but it's decent framework for a trade. It's also the type of deal Saint John can't offer CB, and if the Eagles plan is to contend it might interest them more Exactly, the contending team overpays after the draft and in this case a non_reporting asset(if true) is worth less. It is a high first round pick Halifax is getting and CB is giving up. It being Bowers is less of a factor now and if Halifax and SJ did not offer enough, to get it done at the draft, they are not paying more now. What did CB get for O leary and where is he now, no big package, same can happen. CB can max it more than the first next year but the crazy proposals sound like the trading up ones posted that did not happen at the draft. Russell said he tried so what would it be now, others need to consider that. Take it or leave it.
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Post by Jacques Strap on Jul 3, 2015 14:11:12 GMT -4
You know Cam has got to be on the phone with this one. Too bad we wouldn't hear a leak in July that Bowers was traded to Halifax, like we did with MacKinnon. Wishful thinking I guess. Even if we don't get Bowers, I am happy with the Moosehead's situation as it is for the next couple of drafts.
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Post by Citris on Jul 3, 2015 14:18:55 GMT -4
August second, 2011. That's when we picked up Nathan MacKinnon. I'm not sure if trades can be made in July.
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Post by Jacques Strap on Jul 3, 2015 14:23:34 GMT -4
August second, 2011. That's when we picked up Nathan MacKinnon. I'm not sure if trades can be made in July. Ok. Hmmm. I thought it was leaked out in July. Ok I will settle for early August.
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Post by Y Ddraig Goch on Jul 3, 2015 14:37:38 GMT -4
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Post by Citris on Jul 3, 2015 15:28:53 GMT -4
Huh. Interesting... Q site has the trade officially listed as August second, however, I do recall something about a special case being made in terms of announcing this trade early.
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Post by moosefan1994 on Jul 3, 2015 15:30:31 GMT -4
Huh. Interesting... Q site has the trade officially listed as August second, however, I do recall something about a special case being made in terms of announcing this trade early. The trade couldn't officially be announced until August but the Q gave the teams permission to announce early that year.
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Post by yurireeka on Jul 3, 2015 19:38:37 GMT -4
Huh. Interesting... Q site has the trade officially listed as August second, however, I do recall something about a special case being made in terms of announcing this trade early. pre season Trade period didnt officially open until then even though deal was done - just couldnt get written to books until Aug 2
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Post by bbhatehab on Jul 3, 2015 20:56:46 GMT -4
Besides Timo and Cavan going to SJ camp in Sept, who else from the team will be missing?....Cody going to Leafs?...D. Moynihan heading anywhere?
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Post by statsman18 on Jul 6, 2015 9:15:47 GMT -4
The more I think about it the more I feel Halifax should get Bowers. He just makes this team better now. He's an up grade on Durandeau. He's a centre and that a position that we're thin in as it is. Like I said before it might even help us get Dachyshyn to commit to play here. There just to many positives for a move like this. Now I by no means am saying we need to sell the farm for him but if it's a fair price Cam should pull the trigger.
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Post by Citris on Jul 6, 2015 9:33:25 GMT -4
The more I think about it the more I feel Halifax should get Bowers. He just makes this team better now. He's an up grade on Durandeau. He's a centre and that a position that we're thin in as it is. Like I said before it might even help us get Dachyshyn to commit to play here. There just to many positives for a move like this. Now I by no means am saying we need to sell the farm for him but if it's a fair price Cam should pull the trigger. Bowers would jump-start this rebuild. It would give us that #1 center going forward, hometown kid, seems like a character player. I'm not sure what you man by "upgrade on Durandeau", they play different positions and I have a feeling Durandeau either has a NTC or wouldn't report to CB anyway, so it's not like he's going to be part of a trade.
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Post by johnstrow on Jul 6, 2015 9:47:56 GMT -4
The more I think about it the more I feel Halifax should get Bowers. He just makes this team better now. He's an up grade on Durandeau. He's a centre and that a position that we're thin in as it is. Like I said before it might even help us get Dachyshyn to commit to play here. There just to many positives for a move like this. Now I by no means am saying we need to sell the farm for him but if it's a fair price Cam should pull the trigger. Bowers would jump-start this rebuild. It would give us that #1 center going forward, hometown kid, seems like a character player. I'm not sure what you man by "upgrade on Durandeau", they play different positions and I have a feeling Durandeau either has a NTC or wouldn't report to CB anyway, so it's not like he's going to be part of a trade. That is a couple times I've heard reference to Durandeau not reporting to Cape Breton. What makes you so sure that would be the case? I agree we should go after Bowers. Especially if the rumors were true that Cam coveted Velano for next season. Now with him being gone, maybe one of those 1st for next year becomes a trade chip?
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