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Post by Jacques Strap on Apr 13, 2015 13:05:25 GMT -4
If Ehlers is coming back, and with Meier I don't think we have to do a complete rebuild. We can have a solid team next year especially with all the young D getting older. Plus the draft picks from this year and next year, maybe we can do more of a Gatineau/Quebec model.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 13, 2015 16:54:23 GMT -4
Ehlers will be in the NHL next season - Book it folks!
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Post by Reesor on Apr 13, 2015 17:02:20 GMT -4
Ehlers will be in the NHL next season - Book it folks! Consider it booked. Thanks!
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Post by statsman18 on Apr 16, 2015 10:16:20 GMT -4
I don't think Ehlers has much else to prove by playing in Major Junior. Send him back here would likely stunt his development. I would think the Jets would give him every opportunity to make their team out of training camp. The Jets don't have any dymanic offensive skill players, so he'd give them an element they don't really have and make their top line forwards better. If by some chance he is sent back, I still think the Moose should trade him and help the rebuild. As for Brassard, his market value will never be better than it is now, so if they work out a deal for him (if they haven't already), I'd be for it. Moynihan is the only upcoming 20 year old I'd keep. I haven't had a chance to comment on this post and been meaning to. The part where you say Jets need a dynamic player like Ehlers. Yes he's a dynamic Jr player at 18 yo but so was Drouin. He didn't exactly light it up like a lot thought he could have. He had a good rookie year but he's not even in the Calder talks. He has player in T-Bay that should help his stats too. The Jets don't have such players. Plus Ehlers will not have the time on puck as he does now in the Q on the NHL. The other thing that people need to understand about the Jets and Ehlers case isn't going to come down to just skill. They are a small market team that try's to get the most for their buck. The current CBA gives a team 6 years of control on players. So if Nik is 19 in the NHL at 26 he can become a free agent . Where as if they wait till he's 20 then he won't be a free agent until 27. And they get him a little more mature in all aspects of the word. I know his skill is there but I think he just got drafted to the wrong team to play in the show next year.
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Post by mooseinfo on Apr 16, 2015 11:07:22 GMT -4
I don't think Ehlers has much else to prove by playing in Major Junior. Send him back here would likely stunt his development. I would think the Jets would give him every opportunity to make their team out of training camp. The Jets don't have any dymanic offensive skill players, so he'd give them an element they don't really have and make their top line forwards better. If by some chance he is sent back, I still think the Moose should trade him and help the rebuild. As for Brassard, his market value will never be better than it is now, so if they work out a deal for him (if they haven't already), I'd be for it. Moynihan is the only upcoming 20 year old I'd keep. I haven't had a chance to comment on this post and been meaning to. The part where you say Jets need a dynamic player like Ehlers. Yes he's a dynamic Jr player at 18 yo but so was Drouin. He didn't exactly light it up like a lot thought he could have. He had a good rookie year but he's not even in the Calder talks. He has player in T-Bay that should help his stats too. The Jets don't have such players. Plus Ehlers will not have the time on puck as he does now in the Q on the NHL. The other thing that people need to understand about the Jets and Ehlers case isn't going to come down to just skill. They are a small market team that try's to get the most for their buck. The current CBA gives a team 6 years of control on players. So if Nik is 19 in the NHL at 26 he can become a free agent . Where as if they wait till he's 20 then he won't be a free agent until 27. And they get him a little more mature in all aspects of the word. I know his skill is there but I think he just got drafted to the wrong team to play in the show next year. No matter what happens or people think I just hope Russell uses at least his 1st round Import pick. It could be complicated but certainly the best option for adding assets in either case.
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Post by statsman18 on Apr 16, 2015 11:30:55 GMT -4
I agree 100%. Which brings up another interesting thought. Who do you trade Meier or Ehlers, if he comes back? I think I would trade Meier. Then we can ride out another playoff run on Ehlers back alone. Both player would bring back good returns but Ehlers would likely be a higher return but the tickets he sells alone would out weigh the assets I would think.
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Post by Jacques Strap on Apr 16, 2015 12:05:09 GMT -4
I agree 100%. Which brings up another interesting thought. Who do you trade Meier or Ehlers, if he comes back? I think I would trade Meier. Then we can ride out another playoff run on Ehlers back alone. Both player would bring back good returns but Ehlers would likely be a higher return but the tickets he sells alone would out weigh the assets I would think. I don't know I really enjoy Meier's game. North-South run over people over or go through them. Strong solid big guy with skill. I am hoping the Flyers draft him.
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Post by nsvees on Apr 16, 2015 15:30:34 GMT -4
I don't think Ehlers has much else to prove by playing in Major Junior. Send him back here would likely stunt his development. I would think the Jets would give him every opportunity to make their team out of training camp. The Jets don't have any dymanic offensive skill players, so he'd give them an element they don't really have and make their top line forwards better. If by some chance he is sent back, I still think the Moose should trade him and help the rebuild. As for Brassard, his market value will never be better than it is now, so if they work out a deal for him (if they haven't already), I'd be for it. Moynihan is the only upcoming 20 year old I'd keep. I haven't had a chance to comment on this post and been meaning to. The part where you say Jets need a dynamic player like Ehlers. Yes he's a dynamic Jr player at 18 yo but so was Drouin. He didn't exactly light it up like a lot thought he could have. He had a good rookie year but he's not even in the Calder talks. He has player in T-Bay that should help his stats too. The Jets don't have such players. Plus Ehlers will not have the time on puck as he does now in the Q on the NHL. The other thing that people need to understand about the Jets and Ehlers case isn't going to come down to just skill. They are a small market team that try's to get the most for their buck. The current CBA gives a team 6 years of control on players. So if Nik is 19 in the NHL at 26 he can become a free agent . Where as if they wait till he's 20 then he won't be a free agent until 27. And they get him a little more mature in all aspects of the word. I know his skill is there but I think he just got drafted to the wrong team to play in the show next year. I agree that Ehlers won't have the time to make plays in the NHL that he's had in Major Junior. What I meant was the Jets don't really have a forward on their current roster who has Ehlers' skill set. He would make their forwards at least a little better once he gets situated and learns the speed of the game; didn't say he'd make them into All Stars; especially right away when his rookie season starts. They may not put him on the top line right away as they want him to get his feet wet, and would probably put a physical player/less skilled player on his line to try to give him some "protection" (just a guess; I don't know what their plan would be for him). Just my opinion. As for Drouin, Tampa Bay has a deep lineup and therefore he probably hasn't had a lot of time playing on the top line (I haven't seen TB play much this year, so this is only a guess). Every player progresses at their own rate, and I'm guessing they are breaking him in slowly. I would expect next season, he will take the next tep up in his development and produce more than he has this year. He'll be physically stronger, and after going through the grind of an NHL season, he'll know better how to prepare himself for the season.
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Post by SteveUL on Apr 16, 2015 16:07:55 GMT -4
I agree 100%. Which brings up another interesting thought. Who do you trade Meier or Ehlers, if he comes back? I think I would trade Meier. Then we can ride out another playoff run on Ehlers back alone. Both player would bring back good returns but Ehlers would likely be a higher return but the tickets he sells alone would out weigh the assets I would think. I don't know I really enjoy Meier's game. North-South run over people over or go through them. Strong solid big guy with skill. I am hoping the Flyers draft him. I saw him play that physical style last year and part of this year ... but he has become more of a finesse player than a physical forward now. He still has great strength to withstand physical play, but I don't see him dishing out heavy hits now ... when I did see that earlier in his Q career. He does still hit ... should have been suspended for that hit on Malatesta in game 3 (based On Johnson getting suspended for his infraction) ... but not nearly as much as he use to hit. His quick release makes him so dangerous.
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Post by CrazyJoeDavola on Apr 16, 2015 18:15:39 GMT -4
I don't know I really enjoy Meier's game. North-South run over people over or go through them. Strong solid big guy with skill. I am hoping the Flyers draft him. I saw him play that physical style last year and part of this year ... but he has become more of a finesse player than a physical forward now. He still has great strength to withstand physical play, but I don't see him dishing out heavy hits now ... when I did see that earlier in his Q career. He does still hit ... should have been suspended for that hit on Malatesta in game 3 (based On Johnson getting suspended for his infraction) ... but not nearly as much as he use to hit. His quick release makes him so dangerous. His hit was barely a minor penalty, a half-hearted takeout of Malatesta who turned along the boards at the last second. Johnson's play was on an entirely different level. You should change your name to "Mctnfan09" with all this nonsense you are spewing these days.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 16, 2015 18:48:49 GMT -4
I saw him play that physical style last year and part of this year ... but he has become more of a finesse player than a physical forward now. He still has great strength to withstand physical play, but I don't see him dishing out heavy hits now ... when I did see that earlier in his Q career. He does still hit ... should have been suspended for that hit on Malatesta in game 3 (based On Johnson getting suspended for his infraction) ... but not nearly as much as he use to hit. His quick release makes him so dangerous. His hit was barely a minor penalty, a half-hearted takeout of Malatesta who turned along the boards at the last second. Johnson's play was on an entirely different level. You should change your name to "Mctnfan09" with all this nonsense you are spewing these days. Seriously. What part of the brain do they remove to create a Moosehead fan? Are you allowed to have independent thought...or are all events filtered through moose glasses to create the moose reality?
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Post by yesisaiditfirst on Apr 16, 2015 19:04:08 GMT -4
From now on I will call him Zach Majesta - Moncton fans may be in need of more tissue to whine in.
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Post by Jacques Strap on Apr 16, 2015 19:14:30 GMT -4
His hit was barely a minor penalty, a half-hearted takeout of Malatesta who turned along the boards at the last second. Johnson's play was on an entirely different level. You should change your name to "Mctnfan09" with all this nonsense you are spewing these days. Seriously. What part of the brain do they remove to create a Moosehead fan? Are you allowed to have independent thought...or are all events filtered through moose glasses to create the moose reality? Why do u only come on here to talk shit? Don't you think you could be a little more productive and talk about hockey and not all the drama shit that u love to talk about.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 16, 2015 19:18:42 GMT -4
Seriously. What part of the brain do they remove to create a Moosehead fan? Are you allowed to have independent thought...or are all events filtered through moose glasses to create the moose reality? Why do u only come on here to talk shit? Don't you think you could be a little more productive and talk about hockey and not all the drama shit that u love to talk about. You would think that with the outdoor nature and habitat of the moose their fans skin would be much much thicker....my point is that there is reality and Moose reality....it's like being caught in the matrix. Sniff sniff, yup I can definitely smell the fear now...
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Post by Jacques Strap on Apr 16, 2015 19:52:39 GMT -4
Why do u only come on here to talk shit? Don't you think you could be a little more productive and talk about hockey and not all the drama shit that u love to talk about. You would think that with the outdoor nature and habitat of the moose their fans skin would be much much thicker....my point is that there is reality and Moose reality....it's like being caught in the matrix. Sniff sniff, yup I can definitely smell the fear now... You must be pretty young. I don't think anybody with any level of maturity would talk like you. You are really wasting my time and I am done responding to you.
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