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Post by Citris on Mar 9, 2016 20:35:16 GMT -4
Hilarious. I want players who would make the team if their birth certificate said Canada. Because Resop and Moynihan wouldn't have. The only good thing about Connor making the team is he brought Danny with him, who ended up being great. Look at some of the US born players other teams are bringing in. Halifax hasn't been strong here. The players they've convinced to come wouldn't have made the team if they weren't American. Simple as that. Yea, they would have. You have no evidence to suggest otherwise. Both players were drafted fairly low, they may not have met your expectations, but the majority of our drafting has been pretty poor outside of 2013 and 2015. We didn't have a lot of picks to work with. We drafted Marino but he never showed up. I'm not saying Halifax has been exceptional at convincing Americans to come, but, name 5 other teams that have done better? I can name one, and that's Moncton, possibly Saint John. Darcy was luck for CB, he decided to show up at 19, Jones is good for Baie-Commeau, but, what other Americans have they snagged in the past? Moynihan and Resop were better than anyone who would have made the team over them, with better tool kits to refine. Resop has played some bad games, but recently he's been pretty outstanding. He should be able to start 50 games for us next year no problem. Moynihan is frustrating because of his lack of consistency, but his work ethic and physicality are there, he's fine as a bottom 6 guy, even at 19.
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Post by Citris on Mar 11, 2016 22:40:17 GMT -4
Tank complete!
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Post by Reesor on Mar 11, 2016 23:32:36 GMT -4
Moose won the lottery back in 2009, but Val d'Or had their 1st rounder. Moose lost the lottery in 2010 and picked Ciampini (Dillon Fournier went 1st). Hopefully, regardless of the pick, the Moose have better luck with either Groulx or MacIssac this time around.
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Post by Kingrat on Mar 12, 2016 1:37:01 GMT -4
Moose will win the coin Flip
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Post by Reesor on Mar 13, 2016 18:46:51 GMT -4
I believe Victo's win and Quebec's loss this afternoon means Quebec is cemented in the 12th seed, meaning their 1st round pick will be 7th overall.
Shawinigan's 1st round pick can still be anywhere between 14th and 17th overall depending on where they finish and whether or not Cape Breton take a compensation pick at #9 for Bowers.
Bathurst's 2nd round pick can still be anywhere between 21st and 25th depending on where they finish and again, whether or not CB take the comp pick.
I'm still not entirely sure about the 2nd rounder we're getting back from RN. They have 3 of them: Drummondville (Currently 22nd overall), Sherbrooke (Currently 23rd overall), and Charlottetown (Currently 28th overall). Lets pretend the Moose get the best one (Unless someone knows for sure which one they get). That would be Drummondville at 22nd overall (or if CB gets comp pick, 23rd).
So best case scenario right now, the Moose would be picking at #1, #7 (confirmed), #14, #20, #21 and #22.
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Post by Kingrat on Mar 13, 2016 19:02:07 GMT -4
good shape to also package picks for younger players etc
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Post by Murph on Mar 13, 2016 23:54:18 GMT -4
Moose won the lottery back in 2009, but Val d'Or had their 1st rounder. Moose lost the lottery in 2010 and picked Ciampini (Dillon Fournier went 1st). Hopefully, regardless of the pick, the Moose have better luck with either Groulx or MacIssac this time around. I believe Halifax won the first ever lottery also, which saw the Eagles select James Sheppard 1st overall, and Bathurst drop to 2nd overall where they look Alex Lamontagne.
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Post by devinm on Mar 16, 2016 2:04:31 GMT -4
I'm pretty sure either way we are getting MacIssac, ideally we can get a Goalie with one of our next 2 picks. Then Forwards, including the Euro pick as a forward. Moose love the idea of having Top end local talent too much not to take MacIssac and I think he fits us pretty well in terms of need. Our Defense as a whole outside of 2 guys and hopefully Flower, is bad. Add MacIssac into that mix that is potentially 4 deep then 2 of the others or 1 of the others and another drafted player.
The way I see it 4 players are going to lose their spots for next season for sure if we make all of top picks. We have 6 picks and 3 players leaving and I think we can assume maybe another one will crack the squad at least out of this draft.
Forwards
1st line Durandeau, Soppi, Fortier 2nd Line Euro Pick, Sorrentino, Putintsev 3rd Line 1st rounder, Bishop, Moynihan 4th line Dachyshyn, 2nd rounder, 2nd rounder (could be defense), Watt, Shewfelt, Crossley
Defense 1st pair Chainey, Ford 2nd pair McIssac, Taillefer 3rd pair Flower, 2nd Rounder, Jones, Nauss
Goalies 1st Rounder, Resop
All for cutting watt and shewfelt if they can get better over agers using like 4-6th round picks. Or hell just keep Sorrentino, I see no reason to not let players with more upside play over watt and Shewfelt. Crossley, and Nauss I think too little too late. Crossley I give him credit he actually started playing again, but its not really enough. Nauss I had big hopes for when he came into the league, but as far as I can tell he has not improved at all since the time he first put the jersey on.
Anyway that is more or less what I'm expecting to see or rather what "I" think should happen. Which means no chance in hell.
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Post by Reesor on Mar 30, 2016 14:14:38 GMT -4
Just a random thought with nothing better to do in a non-playoff year.
I know there are casual fans out there that don't really follow the off-ice goings on in Moose country. A lot of these fans were the ones that want the Moose to win win win and get into the playoffs no matter what it does to their draft going forward. But seeing how Rouyn Noranda has out-scored Drummondville 27-1 in their first three games, the whole "Any playoff experience is good experience" argument gets thrown out the window. I doubt very much that Drummondville will win a playoff game this year because of the valuable experience gains by getting the crap beat out of them in 4 straight games.
It doesn't make it wrong to cheer for your team no matter what. But when people say "How can you hope for your team to lose?", this is a good example of why. Drummondville will end up with the 3rd overall pick instead of a shot at #1, along with the 9th overall Euro pick instead of #6. But they get rewarded with a shelling at the hands of what should be the eventual Presidents Cup champs.
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Post by Jack Bauer on Mar 30, 2016 14:29:10 GMT -4
Just a random thought with nothing better to do in a non-playoff year. I know there are casual fans out there that don't really follow the off-ice goings on in Moose country. A lot of these fans were the ones that want the Moose to win win win and get into the playoffs no matter what it does to their draft going forward. But seeing how Rouyn Noranda has out-scored Drummondville 27-1 in their first three games, the whole "Any playoff experience is good experience" argument gets thrown out the window. I doubt very much that Drummondville will win a playoff game this year because of the valuable experience gains by getting the crap beat out of them in 4 straight games. It doesn't make it wrong to cheer for your team no matter what. But when people say "How can you hope for your team to lose?", this is a good example of why. Drummondville will end up with the 3rd overall pick instead of a shot at #1, along with the 9th overall Euro pick instead of #6. But they get rewarded with a shelling at the hands of what should be the eventual Presidents Cup champs. Experience at this level has been proven countless times to be irrelevant for the teams at the bottom. There's so much turnover from year to year that the core getting killed for Drummondville today will not all still be there in 2-3 years when their turn to be competitive comes around again. In a league with a maximum of a 5 year career where most players play for 3 or 4 years 1 bad week against a powerhouse isn't going to be the difference between eventually being a strong team or not.
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Post by moosefan1994 on Mar 30, 2016 14:35:09 GMT -4
Missing the playoffs in 2010 didn't hurt Andrews or Lewis as far as development goes.
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Post by Jack Bauer on Mar 30, 2016 14:38:38 GMT -4
Missing the playoffs in 2010 didn't hurt Andrews or Lewis as far as development goes. And sitting through those games as a fan is brutal. In 03 when we played Halifax and didn't even score until game 4 the games were pathetic. But still had to be played. I'd almost rather half the league get eliminated and go right to a 1 vs 8 playoff system then see scores like Rouyn vs Drummondville. Make regular season actually mean something and a playoff berth be an actual accomplishment.
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Post by moosefan1994 on Mar 30, 2016 14:50:31 GMT -4
Missing the playoffs in 2010 didn't hurt Andrews or Lewis as far as development goes. And sitting through those games as a fan is brutal. In 03 when we played Halifax and didn't even score until game 4 the games were pathetic. But still had to be played. I'd almost rather half the league get eliminated and go right to a 1 vs 8 playoff system then see scores like Rouyn vs Drummondville. Make regular season actually mean something and a playoff berth be an actual accomplishment. Then 8 teams don't get playoff revenue. Besides I am quite sure Voltigeur fans were excited for that brief moment when their actually scored and were winning the game
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Post by Jack Bauer on Mar 30, 2016 15:00:13 GMT -4
And sitting through those games as a fan is brutal. In 03 when we played Halifax and didn't even score until game 4 the games were pathetic. But still had to be played. I'd almost rather half the league get eliminated and go right to a 1 vs 8 playoff system then see scores like Rouyn vs Drummondville. Make regular season actually mean something and a playoff berth be an actual accomplishment. Then 8 teams don't get playoff revenue. Besides I am quite sure Voltigeur fans were excited for that brief moment when their actually scored and were winning the game I am aware of the revenue...more incentive for teams to not tank and ice a competitive product. You can even add in a couple byes and get a couple more teams in. Hell do that anyway and let EVERYONE in if it's only about revenue. This setup of let 16 of 18 in for revenue purposes isn't REALLY the reason a Bathurst still has a team. Those extra 2600(1300X2) fans isn't the be all and end all for a small market. If it is, they won't have a team for much longer anyway without some success.
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Post by downthemiddle on Mar 30, 2016 15:17:43 GMT -4
Problem with byes is it doesn't so much work in a best of 7 tournament.
Maybe something radical like have 5 play 12, 6 play 11, etc while the top 4 have a tournament of shorter series length to redetermine seeding. Would hurt the meaning of the regular season though.
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