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Post by Captain Obvious on Oct 23, 2018 12:05:14 GMT -4
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Post by Captain Obvious on Oct 23, 2018 16:54:59 GMT -4
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Post by Captain Obvious on Oct 25, 2018 7:57:14 GMT -4
Weird move by Las Vegas, Schmidt just got a big doping suspension, but let's give him a 36 million dollar extension...not a great message to kids that PED's don't pay...
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Post by Jack Bauer on Oct 25, 2018 9:09:15 GMT -4
Weird move by Las Vegas, Schmidt just got a big doping suspension, but let's give him a 36 million dollar extension...not a great message to kids that PED's don't pay... He was a pending UFA at the end of the year. You would have let him leave? Based on the info from his case that's out there I have no issue with them wanting to keep him long term and re-signing him. What message are major league sports sending to kids paying millions to women beaters like Osuna? Or treating people who smoke/use Marijuana like they're using anabolic steroids? You're already making a mistake as a parent if you're letting your kids messages be sent by major league sports leagues only concerned with making more money in the future then they've made in the past. How many kids could even identify Schmidt as an NHL player or know who he is?
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Post by Captain Obvious on Oct 25, 2018 10:01:05 GMT -4
Weird move by Las Vegas, Schmidt just got a big doping suspension, but let's give him a 36 million dollar extension...not a great message to kids that PED's don't pay... He was a pending UFA at the end of the year. You would have let him leave? Based on the info from his case that's out there I have no issue with them wanting to keep him long term and re-signing him. What message are major league sports sending to kids paying millions to women beaters like Osuna? Or treating people who smoke/use Marijuana like they're using anabolic steroids? You're already making a mistake as a parent if you're letting your kids messages be sent by major league sports leagues only concerned with making more money in the future then they've made in the past. How many kids could even identify Schmidt as an NHL player or know who he is? I don't have an issue with re signing him, but the timing of it is a bit strange. I would have at least waited until he was back. The optics just seem bad to me.
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Post by Jack Bauer on Oct 25, 2018 10:13:11 GMT -4
He was a pending UFA at the end of the year. You would have let him leave? Based on the info from his case that's out there I have no issue with them wanting to keep him long term and re-signing him. What message are major league sports sending to kids paying millions to women beaters like Osuna? Or treating people who smoke/use Marijuana like they're using anabolic steroids? You're already making a mistake as a parent if you're letting your kids messages be sent by major league sports leagues only concerned with making more money in the future then they've made in the past. How many kids could even identify Schmidt as an NHL player or know who he is? I don't have an issue with re signing him, but the timing of it is a bit strange. I would have at least waited until he was back. The optics just seem bad to me. Many players won't negotiate during their season. So their options could have been to sign him now before he comes back...or wait until the off-season where they risk him going to July 1 at that point. What do the optics of when he signs have to do with kids and sending them a message?
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Post by Captain Obvious on Oct 25, 2018 10:18:08 GMT -4
I don't have an issue with re signing him, but the timing of it is a bit strange. I would have at least waited until he was back. The optics just seem bad to me. Many players won't negotiate during their season. So their options could have been to sign him now before he comes back...or wait until the off-season where they risk him going to July 1 at that point. What do the optics of when he signs have to do with kids and sending them a message? They can get a deal done whenever, but I would have held off announcing it at least until he was back a couple of weeks. Kids will get these messages regardless of parents...they watch sports and social media.
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Post by Jack Bauer on Oct 25, 2018 10:27:18 GMT -4
Many players won't negotiate during their season. So their options could have been to sign him now before he comes back...or wait until the off-season where they risk him going to July 1 at that point. What do the optics of when he signs have to do with kids and sending them a message? They can get a deal done whenever, but I would have held off announcing it at least until he was back a couple of weeks. Kids will get these messages regardless of parents...they watch sports and social media. What messages? And kids don't watch sports like they used to. Especially games featuring expansion teams in new markets in the mountain time zone. They might watch the baseball playoffs though and see Osuna out there pitching. Or Braun out there hitting. The message kids take from those situations needs to come from their parents. It's a chance to teach your kids a very important life lesson if you're the parent on the other end of it. You don't let the image of an Osuna pitching go by without explaining to them why they never want to be in the same situation he was in.
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Post by Captain Obvious on Oct 25, 2018 10:32:25 GMT -4
They can get a deal done whenever, but I would have held off announcing it at least until he was back a couple of weeks. Kids will get these messages regardless of parents...they watch sports and social media. What messages? And kids don't watch sports like they used to. Especially games featuring expansion teams in new markets in the mountain time zone. They might watch the baseball playoffs though and see Osuna out there pitching. Or Braun out there hitting. The message kids take from those situations needs to come from their parents. It's a chance to teach your kids a very important life lesson if you're the parent on the other end of it. You don't let the image of an Osuna pitching go by without explaining to them why they never want to be in the same situation he was in. The message that cheating pays.
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Post by bois on Oct 25, 2018 10:40:41 GMT -4
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Post by Jack Bauer on Oct 25, 2018 10:46:19 GMT -4
What messages? And kids don't watch sports like they used to. Especially games featuring expansion teams in new markets in the mountain time zone. They might watch the baseball playoffs though and see Osuna out there pitching. Or Braun out there hitting. The message kids take from those situations needs to come from their parents. It's a chance to teach your kids a very important life lesson if you're the parent on the other end of it. You don't let the image of an Osuna pitching go by without explaining to them why they never want to be in the same situation he was in. The message that cheating pays. So that message isn't sent if he waits until July 1 and signed for even more money as a UFA with a lot more fan fare? Unless you want to ban all these guys for life....every one of them that signs any other contract can be argued as a lesson to kids that cheating pays. In reality, in this situation especially, simple environmental factors could be what you're calling this guy a cheater for. I'd rather my kid learn that some minuscule amount of a banned substance in a players system shouldn't ruin their lives and career vs them learning that if their women agrees to leave the country and not testify that they can beat the shit out of her and still try and win a World Series a few months later. Blanketing Nate Schmidt as a cheater without looking into the context isn't something I agree with. Ryan Braun? He cheated but wasn't even penalized due to a technicality. The lesson to learn from all of this? That life is unfair and at times just makes no sense. If your kid is taking a lesson from a Schmidt situation that cheating pays then you're doing a bad job as a parent by not educating them and using the other examples of how there are much worse situations out there and are way more unfair and have real human victims on the other end.
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Post by Jack Bauer on Oct 25, 2018 10:47:57 GMT -4
It does in that they were both suspended for incidents. Completely different incidents for sure. But if a parent is going to let Nate Schmidt set some awful precedent for their kids...there are players like Osuna who have set way worse precedents to educate your kids on if they're not into sports that Nate Schmidt has them thinking that cheating pays.
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Post by scotiahockey on Oct 25, 2018 11:29:45 GMT -4
Jake Gardiner is licking his chops after seeing this deal.
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Post by Jack Bauer on Oct 25, 2018 11:32:31 GMT -4
Jake Gardiner is licking his chops after seeing this deal. For sure. Personally i'd rather let him go and pay the price for a Trouba and give him the money.
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Post by Captain Obvious on Oct 25, 2018 18:10:07 GMT -4
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