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Post by Captain Obvious on Nov 21, 2018 8:01:31 GMT -4
MacLellan out Ken Hitchcock in for the Oilers Should have been Chiarelli to go first. Yeah, weird move. Why fire the coach and not the GM with it? Chiarelli has turned their roster into a dumpster fire, horrible trades and terrible UFA signings.
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Post by Captain Obvious on Nov 26, 2018 9:31:21 GMT -4
Pretty big trade between Chicago and Phoenix...Perlini and Strome for N.Schmaltz.
Strome is the big wild card here, he could be the best player in the trade or end up a depth guy/PP specialist. like his brother, he isn't the fastest or hardest working player on the ice but has very good skills. Schmaltz is a safer player, strong 2 way guy who can put up 50 points(though he did it with Kane) and has had a slow start this year. Perlini seems to be more of a depth guy, has not progressed much since being drafted in the 1st round.
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Post by Score on Nov 26, 2018 11:55:06 GMT -4
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Post by Captain Obvious on Dec 10, 2018 18:31:21 GMT -4
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Post by Score on Dec 17, 2018 17:07:23 GMT -4
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Post by Captain Obvious on Jan 13, 2019 8:56:19 GMT -4
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Post by Captain Obvious on Jan 15, 2019 7:22:04 GMT -4
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Post by moosefan1994 on Jan 23, 2019 9:43:34 GMT -4
He won't get the chance to do so... finally fired by the Oilers. Too bad that Kevin Lowe or Craig McTavish will step in, Lowe is the main reason that franchise is in purgatory.
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Post by Jack Bauer on Jan 23, 2019 10:24:08 GMT -4
He won't get the chance to do so... finally fired by the Oilers. Too bad that Kevin Lowe or Craig McTavish will step in, Lowe is the main reason that franchise is in purgatory. It's amazing that just by doing this is shows how clueless they are as it means they had no plan on doing this about 40 hours ago when he registered a 3 year contract extension with Koskinen on the teams behalf. Why do you let the guy re-sign players if you have no intention on letting him see out the week let alone the season? You really have to feel for McDavid. But he let the PA and his agent convince him to stay their for 8 years for $100 mil "for the good of the PA" I am sure. In reality a 5 year extension would have probably been the best case for both as it would have forced the Oilers to turn it around much quicker to keep him content and he would have had some light at the end of the tunnel if they continued to be a tire fire.
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Post by bois on Jan 23, 2019 11:00:22 GMT -4
He won't get the chance to do so... finally fired by the Oilers. Too bad that Kevin Lowe or Craig McTavish will step in, Lowe is the main reason that franchise is in purgatory. It's amazing that just by doing this is shows how clueless they are as it means they had no plan on doing this about 40 hours ago when he registered a 3 year contract extension with Koskinen on the teams behalf. Why do you let the guy re-sign players if you have no intention on letting him see out the week let alone the season? You really have to feel for McDavid. But he let the PA and his agent convince him to stay their for 8 years for $100 mil "for the good of the PA" I am sure. In reality a 5 year extension would have probably been the best case for both as it would have forced the Oilers to turn it around much quicker to keep him content and he would have had some light at the end of the tunnel if they continued to be a tire fire. In fairness........ if you think Peter Chiarelli signed Koskinen himself without the support of the management team/ownership group.... i've got a bridge to sell you that contract had no bearing in this decision......... the timing is actually as good as it can be when firing a GM midseason... as it comes with the team having the all star plus leage mandated 5 day break starting after their game last night.... what better time is there to make a change when doing so midseason? but yeah the entire organization has done nothing to make itself look any better than the joke it had become leading up to the Mcdavid draft....... sad really
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Post by Jack Bauer on Jan 23, 2019 11:04:18 GMT -4
It's amazing that just by doing this is shows how clueless they are as it means they had no plan on doing this about 40 hours ago when he registered a 3 year contract extension with Koskinen on the teams behalf. Why do you let the guy re-sign players if you have no intention on letting him see out the week let alone the season? You really have to feel for McDavid. But he let the PA and his agent convince him to stay their for 8 years for $100 mil "for the good of the PA" I am sure. In reality a 5 year extension would have probably been the best case for both as it would have forced the Oilers to turn it around much quicker to keep him content and he would have had some light at the end of the tunnel if they continued to be a tire fire. In fairness........ if you think Peter Chiarelli signed Koskinen himself without the support of the management team/ownership group.... i've got a bridge to sell you that contract had no bearing in this decision......... the timing is actually as good as it can be when firing a GM midseason... as it comes with the team having the all star plus leage mandated 5 day break starting after their game last night.... what better time is there to make a change when doing so midseason? but yeah the entire organization has done nothing to make itself look any better than the joke it had become leading up to the Mcdavid draft....... sad really Oh you're right that there was definitely input from everyone on that. But the optics of it still don't look great but lets face it nothing therehas for a long time. I guess my thinking is that if i'm about to go in a different route with a new guy i'd rather get his input and let him make that call. Now the new GM is forced to come in with Koskinen as a #1 whether he wants it or not. But considering it's Edmonton that probably doesn't hurt them with anyone as the higher end executives won't want to live there or be a part of the clusterfuck of a front office so they're probably looking at someone younger in an assistant role somewhere else who wants to try to make a name for themselves and will happily start with a team led by McDavid....and Lucic cause he ain't going anywhere either lol
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Post by Jack Bauer on Jan 23, 2019 13:20:46 GMT -4
Peter Chiarelli was fired during the second intermission of last night's game, according to Bob Nicholson.
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Post by zombieregdunlop on Jan 23, 2019 13:42:20 GMT -4
So many teams and GM's were furious when the Oilers won the draft lottery to get McDavid that they must be loving the shitshow in Edmonton right now.
I use to say this about the Leafs all the time when John Ferguson Jr. left them for dead. You can't end up with a zero sum game when you lose a trade. 10 years late Tuuka Rask is still the #1 goalie for the Boston Bruins. Exactly 2 years to the day after that trade, Andrew Raycroft was put on waivers and bought out. Boston wins the cup 3 years later.
I thought of this 2 days ago. Jordan Eberle is traded for Ryan Strome. Ryan Strome gets flipped for Ryan Spooner. And 48 hours ago Ryan Spooner is placed on waivers. I don't think Eberle has the value of a Tuuka Rask, but you get the idea. Trades can't be for "all the marbles" when you get none. It's how teams stay bad for a very long time.
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Post by Jack Bauer on Jan 23, 2019 13:55:21 GMT -4
So many teams and GM's were furious when the Oilers won the draft lottery to get McDavid that they must be loving the shitshow in Edmonton right now. I use to say this about the Leafs all the time when John Ferguson Jr. left them for dead. You can't end up with a zero sum game when you lose a trade. 10 years late Tuuka Rask is still the #1 goalie for the Boston Bruins. Exactly 2 years to the day after that trade, Andrew Raycroft was put on waivers and bought out. Boston wins the cup 3 years later. I thought of this 2 days ago. Jordan Eberle is traded for Ryan Strome. Ryan Strome gets flipped for Ryan Spooner. And 48 hours ago Ryan Spooner is placed on waivers. I don't think Eberle has the value of a Tuuka Rask, but you get the idea. Trades can't be for "all the marbles" when you get none. It's how teams stay bad for a very long time. Almost everything they've tried since Pronger asked to leave has blown up in their face. And yet here we are with an Oilers front office featuring failed past executives like Bob Nicholson, Kevin Lowe, and Craig McTavish with a couple Gretzky brothers and some other random 80's Oilers lingering around and still making the decisions. It's unbelievable really. Toronto had an issue for years with ownership driving management to achieve 6 playoff victories a year as they were trying to achieve profits for the teachers pension fund driven by those playoff dates. So a JFJ had a gun to his head to make the awful goaltending decisions. Chiarelli and the next GM have a gun to their head that isn't going away in that nobody wants to live there so they're forced to overpay for almost anything that's available. Even with McDavid they've all managed to keep Edmonton as a have not team when if anything now is the time players should want to go play there similar to how the Leafs moves finally convinced a star FA to want to play there. Unless Katz is willing to say "screw the 80's" and start fresh with new people with no connection to their past then I don't see how anything changes there. NHL executives work within a team just like the teams they're building do so firing a GM but keeping everyone else and say things like "the water here is off" or some bullshit means the whole lot of them need to be replaced in order to move forward. And yes moving forward means far away from the glory years of the 80's and those who keep letting them down now.
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Post by yesisaiditfirst on Jan 23, 2019 14:13:50 GMT -4
I think the Oilers are being too loyal to some people. They needed someone president on down that can thrive within todays reality not stuck in yesteryear. They really need to hire hockey people with no attachment to the old culture of Oilers hockey of 25 years ago.
I still sceatch my head about the Hitchcock hiring. The only fit is he is from the area. But that move smacked of having blinders on about how the game has evolved.
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