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Post by Jacques Strap on May 17, 2023 22:48:15 GMT -4
Seeing it on TSN again it looks like a bad call for no goal. I think the Q should address it after the game. If you are going to review every goal that is scored the refs should at least get to see the video. Nicolas Dutil, a Q referee, sent a message to Stéphane Leroux to explain even if Truchon touched the puck he has to have control of it for the hand pass call to be waived. It was the right call. Of course he did. Somebody tell Lalancette because he said the Q should have to answer for that call. Watching the video of one crappy angle. Is this the best video they have with all of these high tech camera's they have? Quebec running around having their way with cheap shots with no calls. Gaucher is a clown. Not sure they will be able to do that crap they get away with in the Memorial Cup. This will be one year I won't be cheering for the Q team.
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Post by sc74 on May 17, 2023 23:25:18 GMT -4
I just read about it, went back to watch the replay and it's true... Rochette hits Dumais' left hand and he shook his right hand... he tried to sell the call with the wrong hand. He just gave up on the play to sell a call and got burned doing it.
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Post by dogsfan81 on May 17, 2023 23:34:08 GMT -4
I just read about it, went back to watch the replay and it's true... Rochette hits Dumais' left hand and he shook his right hand... he tried to sell the call with the wrong hand. He just gave up on the play to sell a call and got burned doing it. I actually believe Rochette’s stick hit both hands, with his right hand being lower on the stick it would just hit the fingers. I can tell you from years of playing hockey I would rather be slashed in the hand than the fingers ANY day. Those bones in the hand are small, but the ones in the fingers are even smaller. I believe that’s why he shook his right hand.
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Post by sc74 on May 17, 2023 23:42:31 GMT -4
I just read about it, went back to watch the replay and it's true... Rochette hits Dumais' left hand and he shook his right hand... he tried to sell the call with the wrong hand. He just gave up on the play to sell a call and got burned doing it. I actually believe Rochette’s stick hit both hands, with his right hand being lower on the stick it would just hit the fingers. I can tell you from years of playing hockey I would rather be slashed in the hand than the fingers ANY day. Those bones in the hand are small, but the ones in the fingers are even smaller. I believe that’s why he shook his right hand. I don't see his stick going near his right hand on the live play and they cut just before the slash on the closer replay.
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Post by gtsoc on May 18, 2023 4:39:03 GMT -4
I actually believe Rochette’s stick hit both hands, with his right hand being lower on the stick it would just hit the fingers. I can tell you from years of playing hockey I would rather be slashed in the hand than the fingers ANY day. Those bones in the hand are small, but the ones in the fingers are even smaller. I believe that’s why he shook his right hand. I don't see his stick going near his right hand on the live play and they cut just before the slash on the closer replay. I just went back and watched the replay and slowed it down and I can’t see him hitting his right hand at all
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Post by Reesor on May 18, 2023 7:02:54 GMT -4
Proud of the Moose overall for their effort level. The selling of the call from Dumais / lack of backcheck, and the stupid penalty by Vidicek really annoyed me. To have the team play their hearts out and have those things contribute to losing the game really got to me. They will be our leadership group next season and I'd be counting on them to lead by example.
The injuries are piling up and the boys have to be gassed. The Moose have been resilient all playoffs. We'll see what they have left in the tank on Friday night. Would be an epic comeback if they can pull it off. One game at a time.
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Post by Jacques Strap on May 18, 2023 7:06:00 GMT -4
They just need one win. As Reesor says one game at a time.
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Post by Fryar on May 18, 2023 7:15:50 GMT -4
Seeing it on TSN again it looks like a bad call for no goal. I think the Q should address it after the game. If you are going to review every goal that is scored the refs should at least get to see the video. Nicolas Dutil, a Q referee, sent a message to Stéphane Leroux to explain even if Truchon touched the puck he has to have control of it for the hand pass call to be waived. It was the right call. The problem with the "... has to have control statement..." is that Truchon got to the puck first after Doucet directed the puck with his hand. Truchon had two hands on his stick with the puck on his forehand and was in conctrol by one-timing it away from the net. Dumais's stick intercepted it and it changed direction toward Vidcek. If one timing a puck with a clear purpose is not control then that opens so many scenarios that the rule becomes a crap shoot. For example: If Doucet hand passes it toward a teamate and an opponent intercepts by one-timing it toward their teamate but as the puck travelled 10 feet away a Moose player picks that off and goes in and scores then that would be a hand pass and be called back? So, does the distance a puck from a one timer travel predicate waiving off a hand pass or result in blowing it down? So, the only way this goal would be allowed is if Truchon skated with it, or stickhandled at least backhand to forehand once, or sat there with it on the blade of his stick waiting to figure his next move, before a Moosehead can be allowed to touch it. In this case, that call can't be overturned.
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Post by sc74 on May 18, 2023 8:26:48 GMT -4
All I know is Truchon had to have complete control which to me and the video judge he didn’t. Then I understand we could argue about the complete control part for a long time.
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Post by yesisaiditfirst on May 18, 2023 8:46:12 GMT -4
Many here disagree. It has been explained to me both viewpoints by supposed experts on TV or media. And both make sense. But control varies by what they want to accomplish. Control for a D is to swipe it a few feet to mess up a chance at a pass or shot. They do that all day. Control for a skater is take stride with it. This is why offsides reviews are so hard to tell these days.
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Post by moosefan1994 on May 18, 2023 8:52:18 GMT -4
3 certainties in life
1) Death 2) Taxes 3) The QMJHL fucking over the Mooseheads
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Post by frogmorton2 on May 18, 2023 9:04:49 GMT -4
3 certainties in life 1) Death 2) Taxes 3) The QMJHL fucking over the Mooseheads The QMJHL fucking over the Drakkar.
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Post by CrazyJoeDavola on May 18, 2023 9:27:30 GMT -4
All I know is Truchon had to have complete control which to me and the video judge he didn’t. Then I understand we could argue about the complete control part for a long time. Just accept that you are wrong, and everything will be fine.
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Post by sc74 on May 18, 2023 9:35:44 GMT -4
All I know is Truchon had to have complete control which to me and the video judge he didn’t. Then I understand we could argue about the complete control part for a long time. Just accept that you are wrong, and everything will be fine. I can be wrong all the way to the Memorial Cup, no problem with that.
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Post by sc74 on May 18, 2023 9:39:44 GMT -4
I don't think Favreau will have a 10 years+ career in the Q. One of the best young head coaches in the league in a long time. He deserved the best head coach trophy this year but the league is infatuated with Julien who got both GM/head coach with a loaded team that finished 3rd...
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