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Post by hal on Nov 15, 2023 7:38:18 GMT -4
Bomber .......as an Eagles Fan I wouldn't worry about offending us because we already know that Sly is gonna change the appearance of this Club at Christmas Time . Henneberry would probably be a very good pickup ........but I believe he already might think he has his 20's but if the Price is Right , he may still do it and if he plays his way into the 20's Conversation for Next Year , then that's a Bonus . By the Way , you deserve a Lot of Credit for your Well Thought out Posts . They are very informative as opposed to some of us ( me included ) that sometimes just go on here to Vent .
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Post by Briwhel on Nov 15, 2023 8:47:37 GMT -4
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Rather than posting on one of the team trade period threads and quickly turning the discussion to another team, I thought I'd open a thread where trades can be discussed for all teams - if that's OK. So - what does a list of draft picks have to do with a trade thread? For me personally, figuring out what the small upper echelon of league contenders might do is the easy part. What a draft pick table does is it allows me to look at what teams have to work with - and what the non-contending teams need - and it can even give a glimpse of what they might do. Players selected in the first seven rounds usually play regularly in the Q. Players selected beyond the 7th round usually do not. There are always exceptions. In the table above - there isn't a lot to choose between the teams in the bottom half of the draft. Drummondville (9) is the only team with more than 8 picks in the final 7 rounds. It's in the top 7 rounds where you build your foundation - nothing really new here that I'm saying - but what we can start to do is to try and predict what some teams might do - or should do. I'm one of those people who thinks as they type - with not a lot of deep thought going into it beforehand. Sometimes it can make you look bad - but it comes with the territory. To kick off the discussion - I'll try add a bit about each of the Maritime teams. ACADIE-BATHURST - Looking at the table above, it is imperative that they add a couple of early round picks or prospects. It's pretty well known that Milo Roelens (2003) will be on the move - and possibly Joe Henneberry (2004), because those are the obvious players who will bring back early round draft picks as part of the return. Figuring out where those players might land is the real chore - and teams with an abundance of early round picks will likely have the upper hand. CAPE BRETON - I can already hear the howls if I suggest the Eagles might look to add a player or two - but their abundance of early round picks definitely leaves room for that possibility. I agree with building with as many early round picks as possible in the same manner as Chicoutimi has done over the past two seasons - but on the other hand - adding a Henneberry type might allow them to compete better this season (they need that type of player IMO) - and he would be a strong possibility as a 20 for next season. Don't get me wrong - I'm not at all suggesting they (Eagles) add somebody and give up some early round picks - but more trying to figure out what they might realistically do. Just throwing the possibility out there for conversation - not for argument. If anything - I think the Eagles need to address their scouting staff. With that amount of early round picks - the future is in their hands. They can't afford to mess it up. They need to hit on their early round picks. I believe the Eagles recently added a couple of scouts, but can't find it anywhere. CHARLOTTETOWN - With only one pick in the first four rounds (a 3rd), they need to move somebody for a big return. Michael Horth should bring a good return, but their other two 2003 players (Huckins and Morneau) might not. Morneau is just under a point per game, and Huckins is finally starting to produce as expected - but there might not be much of a bidding war for either from contending teams as far as returning those top draft picks. Would Huckins or Morneau bring back a 1st or 2nd as part of the return? I really don't know. Horth should, but Hulton definitely won't want to be left holding the bag again after Biakabutuka last year. Again - just trying to initiate discussion - not argument. There very well could be a lot of interest out there for all three players - and some others as well. I'm just looking at the table above and trying to figure out what the plan might be - or how to go about it. I'm no GM. HALIFAX - As somebody said (statsman18 I think) - if this isn't the season to add with Dumais, Rousseau and so on - when is? For sure they are going to look to add a piece or two - you only get so many kicks at the can. Another final appearance should be enough to appease the Moose followers this season. It isn't a Courteau Cup or bust. IMO - even if they lost in the 2nd round - it's still a good season if they don't give up too much of the future. The chase is better than the catch - Lemmy. My own personal preference would be for the Moose to hold all their prospects and look to add team players rather than the very top players. Rather than give up a 1st and a prospect for Roelens, for instance - I'd rather see them adding somebody a bit cheaper. They need 2nd line players IMO - not 1st line players. A player like Henneberry might be much cheaper than Roelens, for example. They do have secondary prospects they could bundle like Fontaine and Doyle - but trading a Cataford or MacKinnon or Phillips or Levesque to go all in shouldn't be an option. On the other hand - it might not be a shock if they do look to go i that direction. MONCTON - They don't have a 1st, but with two 2nds and seven picks in the first seven rounds - they should be OK to neither need to buy nor sell - unless they hope to add enough to get past the 2nd round. Looking at the offseason depth charts I put together over the summer - and trying to look at what teams might do ( QMJHL Off-season rosters), I think a player like 2003 Jonathan Desrosiers from Chicoutimi might be a really good fit. The Sags don't have a 3rd, 4th or 5th and this isn't a contender season for them (at least on paper and in the mid-November standings). Again - just fodder for discussion. I have no idea what anybody is going to do - but IMO - if the Wildcats add a solid D veteran - they might be the one team in the East I don't want the Moose to meet in the playoffs. For somebody that doesn't get a lot of mention here on this forum - Desrosiers is rock steady. SAINT JOHN - With no 2nd, 4th or 5th, they are another team who need to trade off their 20's and try to restock the cupboards. It would be huge if the Sea Dogs could trade 2003 Peter Reynolds for a good return - but as some have mentioned - he might not want to be moved. Leaver and Gauthier likely won't get a big return. I have no idea whether Reynolds might consider a move to Halifax (or anywhere else) - but the Moose aren't in a position to send a 2024 top pick back the other way. Anthony Stella is going to need to work some magic. I'm just trying to add to the forum. I know that what makes sense to me sometimes probably doesn't to others. Just trying to get some discussion going - not pick a fight with anybody. The QMJHL Christmas trade period ran last year from December 18th to January 6th. I don't know if it's exactly the same every season, but I believe that January 6th is the usual closing deadline. Would appreciate it if somebody could clarify the actual trade window opening and closing dates. I assume you took that table from Nouslesfans, but it is missing some picks. SJ also has BLB's 1st.
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Post by countryboy on Nov 15, 2023 9:14:53 GMT -4
It will be interesting to see where the market lands for the price of those 20 y/o players. There should be some very, very good 20 y/o players available..... Reynolds, Horth, Roelens. Quebec based players like Mikael Huchette (if healthy), Charles Boutin also should generate some interest.
In general, I've seen that teams are willing to pay the big price for elite, top end 20 y/o talent, but for the next tier of player there can be a significant drop off in price. It's supply/demand issue to an extent....there are only 54 spots available league wide for 20 y/o players.
Here in Charlottetown, last year we had probably an underwhelming return for Frankie Lapenna and we decided to hold onto Jeremie Biakabatuka rather than sell him cheap. Predicting what kind of a return you might get on a 20 y/o asset can be tough.
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Post by statsman18 on Nov 15, 2023 9:29:27 GMT -4
It will be interesting to see where the market lands for the price of those 20 y/o players. There should be some very, very good 20 y/o players available..... Reynolds, Horth, Roelens. Quebec based players like Mikael Huchette (if healthy), Charles Boutin also should generate some interest. In general, I've seen that teams are willing to pay the big price for elite, top end 20 y/o talent, but for the next tier of player there can be a significant drop off in price. It's supply/demand issue to an extent....there are only 54 spots available league wide for 20 y/o players. Here in Charlottetown, last year we had probably an underwhelming return for Frankie Lapenna and we decided to hold onto Jeremie Biakabatuka rather than sell him cheap. Predicting what kind of a return you might get on a 20 y/o asset can be tough. I’m just going to throw this here because it seems like a good spot to do so. I have nothing to base this on but my gut so don’t take it as gospel. I see a fit where Horth goes to CB and Shortall plus picks heading back to the Island. Horth could help CB secondary scoring and Shortall could give a little more experience to PEI’s backend. To me this just seems like a fit.
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Post by Briwhel on Nov 15, 2023 9:33:01 GMT -4
Yes, I did. I wouldn't know where else to start. . . Update has been made on the table with the BLB pick. I don't think it changes the fact that the Titan will still try to move Roelens and Henneberry - but that extra 1st definitely makes it less necessary. Thanks for the info. I asked that because Nouslesfans is only updated to the draft, so everything since then is missing.
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Post by Jack Bauer on Nov 15, 2023 9:37:00 GMT -4
I see CB going for a high end defenceman with that SJ 1st. Maybe its a big time scorer but I wouldnt be shocked at all to see them go after a returning D with that pick.
We're past the point of saying the buying is just furthering the downward spiral. They're going to buy from the middle and argue for a decade why it was the only decision.
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Post by Briwhel on Nov 15, 2023 9:40:22 GMT -4
Mise à jour depuis l'échange suivant: 2023-06-10 SNB RD_10, #170, 2023 GAT RD_11, #199, 2023 RD_13, #235, 2023
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Post by statsman18 on Nov 15, 2023 9:53:39 GMT -4
2024 QMJHL DRAFT - PICKS BY TEAM (As of November 15)TEAM | 1ST | 2ND | 3RD | 4TH | 5TH | 6TH | 7TH |
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Rather than posting on one of the team trade period threads and quickly turning the discussion to another team, I thought I'd open a thread where trades can be discussed for all teams - if that's OK. So - what does a list of draft picks have to do with a trade thread? For me personally, figuring out what the small upper echelon of league contenders might do is the easy part. What a draft pick table does is it allows me to look at what teams have to work with - and what the non-contending teams need - and it can even give a glimpse of what they might do. Players selected in the first seven rounds usually play regularly in the Q. Players selected beyond the 7th round usually do not. There are always exceptions. In the table above - there isn't a lot to choose between the teams in the bottom half of the draft. Drummondville (9) is the only team with more than 8 picks in the final 7 rounds. It's in the top 7 rounds where you build your foundation - nothing really new here that I'm saying - but what we can start to do is to try and predict what some teams might do - or should do. I'm one of those people who thinks as they type - with not a lot of deep thought going into it beforehand. Sometimes it can make you look bad - but it comes with the territory. To kick off the discussion - I'll try add a bit about each of the Maritime teams. ACADIE-BATHURST - Looking at the table above, it is imperative that they add a couple of early round picks or prospects. It's pretty well known that Milo Roelens (2003) will be on the move - and possibly Joe Henneberry (2004), because those are the obvious players who will bring back early round draft picks as part of the return. Figuring out where those players might land is the real chore - and teams with an abundance of early round picks will likely have the upper hand. CAPE BRETON - I can already hear the howls if I suggest the Eagles might look to add a player or two - but their abundance of early round picks definitely leaves room for that possibility. I agree with building with as many early round picks as possible in the same manner as Chicoutimi has done over the past two seasons - but on the other hand - adding a Henneberry type might allow them to compete better this season (they need that type of player IMO) - and he would be a strong possibility as a 20 for next season. Don't get me wrong - I'm not at all suggesting they (Eagles) add somebody and give up some early round picks - but more trying to figure out what they might realistically do. Just throwing the possibility out there for conversation - not for argument. If anything - I think the Eagles need to address their scouting staff. With that amount of early round picks - the future is in their hands. They can't afford to mess it up. They need to hit on their early round picks. I believe the Eagles recently added a couple of scouts, but can't find it anywhere. CHARLOTTETOWN - With only one pick in the first four rounds (a 3rd), they need to move somebody for a big return. Michael Horth should bring a good return, but their other two 2003 players (Huckins and Morneau) might not. Morneau is just under a point per game, and Huckins is finally starting to produce as expected - but there might not be much of a bidding war for either from contending teams as far as returning those top draft picks. Would Huckins or Morneau bring back a 1st or 2nd as part of the return? I really don't know. Horth should, but Hulton definitely won't want to be left holding the bag again after Biakabutuka last year. Again - just trying to initiate discussion - not argument. There very well could be a lot of interest out there for all three players - and some others as well. I'm just looking at the table above and trying to figure out what the plan might be - or how to go about it. I'm no GM. HALIFAX - As somebody said (statsman18 I think) - if this isn't the season to add with Dumais, Rousseau and so on - when is? For sure they are going to look to add a piece or two - you only get so many kicks at the can. Another final appearance should be enough to appease the Moose followers this season. It isn't a Courteau Cup or bust. IMO - even if they lost in the 2nd round - it's still a good season if they don't give up too much of the future. The chase is better than the catch - Lemmy. My own personal preference would be for the Moose to hold all their prospects and look to add team players rather than the very top players. Rather than give up a 1st and a prospect for Roelens, for instance - I'd rather see them adding somebody a bit cheaper. They need 2nd line players IMO - not 1st line players. A player like Henneberry might be much cheaper than Roelens, for example. They do have secondary prospects they could bundle like Fontaine and Doyle - but trading a Cataford or MacKinnon or Phillips or Levesque to go all in shouldn't be an option. On the other hand - it might not be a shock if they do look to go i that direction. MONCTON - They don't have a 1st, but with two 2nds and seven picks in the first seven rounds - they should be OK to neither need to buy nor sell - unless they hope to add enough to get past the 2nd round. Looking at the offseason depth charts I put together over the summer - and trying to look at what teams might do ( QMJHL Off-season rosters), I think a player like 2003 Jonathan Desrosiers from Chicoutimi might be a really good fit. The Sags don't have a 3rd, 4th or 5th and this isn't a contender season for them (at least on paper and in the mid-November standings). Again - just fodder for discussion. I have no idea what anybody is going to do - but IMO - if the Wildcats add a solid D veteran - they might be the one team in the East I don't want the Moose to meet in the playoffs. For somebody that doesn't get a lot of mention here on this forum - Desrosiers is rock steady. SAINT JOHN - With no 2nd, 4th or 5th, they are another team who need to trade off their 20's and try to restock the cupboards. It would be huge if the Sea Dogs could trade 2003 Peter Reynolds for a good return - but as some have mentioned - he might not want to be moved. Leaver and Gauthier likely won't get a big return. I have no idea whether Reynolds might consider a move to Halifax (or anywhere else) - but the Moose aren't in a position to send a 2024 top pick back the other way. Anthony Stella is going to need to work some magic. I'm just trying to add to the forum. I know that what makes sense to me sometimes probably doesn't to others. Just trying to get some discussion going - not pick a fight with anybody. The QMJHL Christmas trade period ran last year from December 18th to January 6th. I don't know if it's exactly the same every season, but I believe that January 6th is the usual closing deadline. Would appreciate it if somebody could clarify the actual trade window opening and closing dates. A lot of your takes here IMO aren’t to far off. I’ll start with the Reynolds talk. The part there if it’s with Halifax that is I will say I disagree that Stella needs to be creative. Cam I think is going to have to be creative. As you said they have no picks till the 3rd round this year. I brought up on the Halifax board that maybe Levesque becomes a trade piece. Does Cam get something structured around maybe Levesque being a future here? I don’t know. Does Cam find some way to go get some higher picks this year? Someone else did ask where you got your information from? I was looking at the French board the other night where they have the picks post I do feel they’re off. I was tracking some picks with the trades and something wasn’t connecting. I forget what picks these were I feel like CB because of the Burbridge trade. Anyways that’s besides the point. The problem is we can’t just look at this years draft. When talking trade period you have to look at the next 3 drafts really. In saying that I don’t expect you to post all those teams picks the next few years at all. I’m just saying there’s more to the picture.
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Post by Briwhel on Nov 15, 2023 9:57:26 GMT -4
Site is finally back. Here's what is missing (note: easier to read on Q site)
2023-08-27 Moncton RD_7,2025 SNB Saint John RD_10,2025
2023-08-27 Moncton Luke McPhee (2005-03-04) Cape Breton RD_7,2024 Sha
2023-08-27 Saint John Olivier Brideau (2005-04-17) Rimouski RD_10,2025 SNB RD_6,2025
2023-08-27 Rouyn-Noranda Louis-Félix Charrois (2005-02-03) Drummondville RD_7,2025
2023-08-27 Victoriaville Edouard Gauthier (2004-02-25) Blainville-Boisbriand RD_7,2025
2023-08-27 Shawinigan Alexis Cournoyer (2005-12-13) Baie-Comeau Félix Hamel (2005-07-05)
2023-08-27 Acadie-Bathurst Mathis Lacroix-Goulet (2005-10-16) Baie-Comeau RD_6,2024
2023-08-27 Québec Dawson Sharkey (2006-07-23) Acadie-Bathurst RD_12,2025
2023-08-27 Moncton Isaiah Parent (2005-02-25) Gatineau RD_10,2024
2023-08-27 Blainville-Boisbriand Colby Huggan (2004-06-29) Acadie-Bathurst RD_8,2024
2023-08-27 Blainville-Boisbriand Olivier Théberge (2005-01-13) Rimouski RD_10,2025
2023-08-27 Val-d'Or Francis Woods (2005-04-18) Gatineau RD_7,2025
2023-08-26 Moncton Justin Dumais (2006-07-24) Gatineau RD_5,2026
2023-08-26 Rimouski Nathan Lévesque (2004-11-26) Gatineau RD_12,2024
2023-08-26 Baie-Comeau William Labranche (2006-07-15) Gatineau RD_2,2026
2023-08-26 Moncton Vincent Légaré (2006-03-15) RD_7,2025 Sherbrooke RD_5,2025
2023-08-26 Chicoutimi Thomas Bégin (2004-05-15) Cape Breton RD_5,2025
2023-08-25 Rouyn-Noranda Olivier Dubois (2005-02-15) Sherbrooke RD_6,2025
2023-08-25 Shawinigan Jacob Lafontaine (2004-01-24) Chicoutimi RD_3,2025
2023-08-25 Shawinigan Connor Macey (2005-02-15) Val-d'Or RD_6,2025 Chi
2023-08-24 Cape Breton Alexandre Carbonneau (2006-04-14) Blainville-Boisbriand RD_6,2024
2023-08-24 Chicoutimi Matteo Mann (2004-12-31) Saint John RD_2,2024 Chi RD_3,2026
2023-08-23 Blainville-Boisbriand Mikaël Denis (2003-11-12) Rimouski RD_3,2025
2023-08-23 Rimouski Alexander Gaudio (2003-07-28) Val-d'Or RD_4,2025
2023-08-23 Rimouski RD_5,2025 SNB Saint John RD_4,2026
2023-08-22 Victoriaville Alexis Jacques (2005-07-01) Charlottetown RD_8,2025
2023-08-14 Sherbrooke Cole Huckins (2003-05-14) RD_8,2024 Charlottetown RD_7,2024 RD_4,2025
2023-08-10 Québec RD_7,2024 Gatineau 2023-08-08 Rimouski Cory MacGillivray (2005-03-27) Gatineau RD_7,2026
2023-08-01 Saint John Cole Burbidge (2005-08-26) Cape Breton RD_1,2024 BLB RD_2,2024 Chi RD_1,2025
2023-08-01 Cape Breton Charles Boutin (2003-01-31) Xavier Parent (2006-02-27)
Gatineau Elliott Kavanaugh (2006-01-26) RD_6,2024 She RD_3,2025 Rou
2023-08-01 Moncton Maxim Barbashev (2003-12-18) Francesco Pulice (2006-11-02) Shawinigan RD_3,2024 RD_8,2024 Mon
2023-11-07 Rouyn-Noranda Coen Strang (2004-09-18) Charlottetown RD_10,2024
2023-10-16 Victoriaville Igor Mburanumwe (2003-11-18) Acadie-Bathurst RD_4,2025
2023-10-16 Baie-Comeau Matthew MacDonald (2003-11-19) Blainville-Boisbriand RD_5,2025
2023-10-13 Rimouski Zachary Rushton (2007-04-13) Acadie-Bathurst RD_9,2024 VdO
2023-10-03 Baie-Comeau Charles-Antoine Lavallée (2004-04-06) Cape Breton RD_11,2024
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Post by lirette on Nov 15, 2023 10:09:39 GMT -4
I don't see Moncton adding Desrosiers given they already have 2 20 year olds on defense and he wouldn't be an upgrade on either. They seem too invested in Trenholm to move on from him as well.
Targets that I could see Moncton going after would be Komarov, Higgins and potentially Mann.
From a forwards perspective this is one of the thinnest years I can remember with the teams that would be sellers. I could see the Cats having interest in Henneberry, Fauchon, Arsenault etc. Fauchon likely makes the biggest impact and I think his price will be high. I could see them going after one of these targets, but just as easily see them stand pat.
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Post by Briwhel on Nov 15, 2023 10:27:58 GMT -4
Wow - way too many changes to try to keep it straight. I always thought that nouslesfans kept the list updated - and maybe I didn't search deep enough? Sorry for that - and probably a lot easier for somebody else to just post an updated list if there is one. Had I known I was that far off - I wouldn't have started the thread - but enjoying all the input just the same. No, Martin backed off the updating a little bit. It is incredibly time consuming and the Q doesn't always publish everything correctly.
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Post by Briwhel on Nov 15, 2023 10:51:22 GMT -4
For SJ, I see this as a year to sell.
Mateiko and Simek are two of the better imports in the league at a time where there aren't a lot of Simek/Mateiko calibre players available. Both are also 18.
Reinhart might be available if the offer is there.
Both Tivey and Mann could potentially be available on the back end as 19s.
As longer shots, Bilodeau and Elie are 18s that could provide some value.
Whether Reynolds stays or goes is more about what he wants than anything else.
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Post by Jack Bauer on Nov 15, 2023 10:51:37 GMT -4
No, Martin backed off the updating a little bit. It is incredibly time consuming and the Q doesn't always publish everything correctly. I just tried to update as best I could. There are likely still a few errors - but should be much easier to correct now if anybody can add anything I missed. I apologize. I wouldn't have gotten into this if I had known it wasn't an up to date list. The Q keeps too much secret for a list to ever be 100% becomes the issue. Ultimately though if you think about it only the top 4-5 rounds are really needed in terms of tracking picks. Nobody is moving their 3 7th rounders for anything tangible.
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Post by bois on Nov 15, 2023 14:11:48 GMT -4
It will be interesting to see where the market lands for the price of those 20 y/o players. There should be some very, very good 20 y/o players available..... Reynolds, Horth, Roelens. Quebec based players like Mikael Huchette (if healthy), Charles Boutin also should generate some interest. In general, I've seen that teams are willing to pay the big price for elite, top end 20 y/o talent, but for the next tier of player there can be a significant drop off in price. It's supply/demand issue to an extent....there are only 54 spots available league wide for 20 y/o players. Here in Charlottetown, last year we had probably an underwhelming return for Frankie Lapenna and we decided to hold onto Jeremie Biakabatuka rather than sell him cheap. Predicting what kind of a return you might get on a 20 y/o asset can be tough. I’m just going to throw this here because it seems like a good spot to do so. I have nothing to base this on but my gut so don’t take it as gospel. I see a fit where Horth goes to CB and Shortall plus picks heading back to the Island. Horth could help CB secondary scoring and Shortall could give a little more experience to PEI’s backend. To me this just seems like a fit. i know numbers don't tell the entire story but why would we want an overage dman with zero points this year as part of a package for Horth? we already have a vet dman with zero points named Michel the picks you are proposing would have to be awfully good
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Post by Briwhel on Nov 15, 2023 14:34:19 GMT -4
I’m just going to throw this here because it seems like a good spot to do so. I have nothing to base this on but my gut so don’t take it as gospel. I see a fit where Horth goes to CB and Shortall plus picks heading back to the Island. Horth could help CB secondary scoring and Shortall could give a little more experience to PEI’s backend. To me this just seems like a fit. i know numbers don't tell the entire story but why would we want an overage dman with zero points this year as part of a package for Horth? we already have a vet dman with zero points named Michel the picks you are proposing would have to be awfully good In that scenario, Shortall would have to be a throw-in, where it is picks for Horth and Shortall moves to Charlottetown because it is best for him.
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