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Post by papadopoulos on Apr 9, 2024 10:12:42 GMT -4
If we’re going to talk about the next season we need to talk about the futures. People at least one player is heading to Moncton and maybe 2. The return will be the picks that they sent to Moncton at least and maybe more picks. I’m not going to name said player but you’ll be able to contact the dots in this post. Here’s the biggest question. What do they do with Rousseau? Do they sell him on draft day to make sure they get something or do they hold on to him and hope someone wants him come trade period. My worry is no team have room or want a 20yo goalie. If you look through the league there’s plenty of 20yo goalies who aren’t that big of a drop from Rousseau. If The Moose hold him till December we could be like PEI with Horth this year and Biakabutuka the year before. I think he gets traded at the draft personally. Next is Cataford. I personally fell Cataford is this up coming season Desnoyers of 2 years ago. Just in this case I don’t see anyway Halifax keeps him! I think he’s the best player who can be available. My today prediction is he will end up on Rimouski, and watch for Kennedy coming back at the 2025 draft. Mark this down I’m saying it first here. The next player I wonder about is Sprynar. Do teams think he’s a good option for a euro player and maybe rather him than picking a guy late. The team I look at here is CB. I think he is a fit for them on their 2nd line and could probably give them 25 maybe 30 goals. The problem is they have a stud defencemen who might be back and a very good goalie who might be forced to backup another year and maybe needs a new home. If not I by all means bring him back and he helps the team have any okay year. I think Schultz is the only 20yo player we have that is a lock to start the year with the team. I don’t think he gets traded at the draft but come September I think a contender will bite the bullet and grab him to run their PP. I know that sounds crazy after Halifax went ohfer on the PP in the playoffs, but that wasn’t because of Schultz. It was the teams schemes. He’s a stud back there. I think Schultz will be the team captain. Another thing that I feel is something to watch come draft day. The Simon’s have yet to get up on that podium to make a first round pick yet. My opinion is Peter wants that attention to make that pick so watch for a trade to get in the 1st round this year. The way I see this teams make up I actually think it could be one bad year then maybe back in talks as a contender. I think a player or 2 as futures for the 2025 draft would make this team very interesting with what could be left over from the 24/25 season. Here’s who I think are still here for the 25/26 season Logan Crosby 05 Lou Levesque 06 Antoine Fontaine 06 Cade Moser 06 Liam Kilfoil 07 Jack Martin 05 Owen Phillips 06 Dom MacKenize 06 Eddy Doyle 06 Goal is wide open That’s a good start with out know what we draft this year and 2 open euro spots. Then like I said add 2 futures there like maybe a Kennedy this team becomes very interesting. Also there’s room for another 20yo in this group. I think it’s a great development year for whoever the new coach will be. At the risk of sounding conceited, I'm not sure Schultz is traded at all. As far as I've heard, Schultz came down to camp in the first place only because the Jones brothers put in the good word for us. Evidently he liked it and stayed - does Schultz WANT to go somewhere else? I can only assume based on the fact he stayed he must have been offered something like a no-trade, and even if that isn't the case, if he refuses to report where he gets traded the other team probably isn't going to just hand Halifax the bag. So where would he want to go could be a huge limiter for us, and maybe we decide it's better for the kids if he stays and shows them the way.
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Post by statsman18 on Apr 9, 2024 13:43:55 GMT -4
If we’re going to talk about the next season we need to talk about the futures. People at least one player is heading to Moncton and maybe 2. The return will be the picks that they sent to Moncton at least and maybe more picks. I’m not going to name said player but you’ll be able to contact the dots in this post. Here’s the biggest question. What do they do with Rousseau? Do they sell him on draft day to make sure they get something or do they hold on to him and hope someone wants him come trade period. My worry is no team have room or want a 20yo goalie. If you look through the league there’s plenty of 20yo goalies who aren’t that big of a drop from Rousseau. If The Moose hold him till December we could be like PEI with Horth this year and Biakabutuka the year before. I think he gets traded at the draft personally. Next is Cataford. I personally fell Cataford is this up coming season Desnoyers of 2 years ago. Just in this case I don’t see anyway Halifax keeps him! I think he’s the best player who can be available. My today prediction is he will end up on Rimouski, and watch for Kennedy coming back at the 2025 draft. Mark this down I’m saying it first here. The next player I wonder about is Sprynar. Do teams think he’s a good option for a euro player and maybe rather him than picking a guy late. The team I look at here is CB. I think he is a fit for them on their 2nd line and could probably give them 25 maybe 30 goals. The problem is they have a stud defencemen who might be back and a very good goalie who might be forced to backup another year and maybe needs a new home. If not I by all means bring him back and he helps the team have any okay year. I think Schultz is the only 20yo player we have that is a lock to start the year with the team. I don’t think he gets traded at the draft but come September I think a contender will bite the bullet and grab him to run their PP. I know that sounds crazy after Halifax went ohfer on the PP in the playoffs, but that wasn’t because of Schultz. It was the teams schemes. He’s a stud back there. I think Schultz will be the team captain. Another thing that I feel is something to watch come draft day. The Simon’s have yet to get up on that podium to make a first round pick yet. My opinion is Peter wants that attention to make that pick so watch for a trade to get in the 1st round this year. The way I see this teams make up I actually think it could be one bad year then maybe back in talks as a contender. I think a player or 2 as futures for the 2025 draft would make this team very interesting with what could be left over from the 24/25 season. Here’s who I think are still here for the 25/26 season Logan Crosby 05 Lou Levesque 06 Antoine Fontaine 06 Cade Moser 06 Liam Kilfoil 07 Jack Martin 05 Owen Phillips 06 Dom MacKenize 06 Eddy Doyle 06 Goal is wide open That’s a good start with out know what we draft this year and 2 open euro spots. Then like I said add 2 futures there like maybe a Kennedy this team becomes very interesting. Also there’s room for another 20yo in this group. I think it’s a great development year for whoever the new coach will be. At the risk of sounding conceited, I'm not sure Schultz is traded at all. As far as I've heard, Schultz came down to camp in the first place only because the Jones brothers put in the good word for us. Evidently he liked it and stayed - does Schultz WANT to go somewhere else? I can only assume based on the fact he stayed he must have been offered something like a no-trade, and even if that isn't the case, if he refuses to report where he gets traded the other team probably isn't going to just hand Halifax the bag. So where would he want to go could be a huge limiter for us, and maybe we decide it's better for the kids if he stays and shows them the way. Here’s the thing about Schultz, he will be a 20yo next year and definitely one of the top 20yo defenders in the league. Now everything you say can be true but there’s a few other ways to look at this. If there’s an offer that’s really good on the table I’m sure every party does their due diligence. Mean tame X calls his agent sees if he will come if not then there’s option 2. He makes the team and they trade him at Christmas. I think this is the more likely scenario with him. He probably goes try’s to help some team win and then my guess is he will go to Dal or SMU the year after. Maybe St FX.
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Post by hockey7 on Apr 9, 2024 15:39:30 GMT -4
If I don't have the credibility here - please remove the post. I've just been told by a pretty good source that as of today - there is no plan for the Mooseheads to go into a full rebuild. That could mean several things - but that's what I've just been told - as well as encouragement to keep posting here on the forum. Woooo lets run it back with the same guys and same coach that just got absolutely destroyed in the playoffs! Already missed getting assets for Dumais and Furlong, might as well miss on the rest of them! Lol /s dont take this seriously.
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Post by davo1997 on Apr 9, 2024 15:45:49 GMT -4
If I don't have the credibility here - please remove the post. I've just been told by a pretty good source that as of today - there is no plan for the Mooseheads to go into a full rebuild. That could mean several things - but that's what I've just been told - as well as encouragement to keep posting here on the forum. Cataford mackinnon vidicek rousseau will all be gone and you could even see Kilfoil and Levesque moved
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Post by Jack Bauer on Apr 9, 2024 15:47:19 GMT -4
If I don't have the credibility here - please remove the post. I've just been told by a pretty good source that as of today - there is no plan for the Mooseheads to go into a full rebuild. That could mean several things - but that's what I've just been told - as well as encouragement to keep posting here on the forum. Woooo lets run it back with the same guys and same coach that just got absolutely destroyed in the playoffs! Already missed getting assets for Dumais and Furlong, might as well miss on the rest of them! Lol /s dont take this seriously. It would be music to the ears of 17 other Q teams for Halifax to not make moves to get younger. Unfortunately the Moncton trade already shows us some insight into their plans.
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Post by Jack Bauer on Apr 9, 2024 15:49:29 GMT -4
If I don't have the credibility here - please remove the post. I've just been told by a pretty good source that as of today - there is no plan for the Mooseheads to go into a full rebuild. That could mean several things - but that's what I've just been told - as well as encouragement to keep posting here on the forum. An unnamed source gave you encouragement to keep posting? 100% pure bullshit lol thats chsb level and I haven't said that since he was banned. The irony in posting that in the same post where you question your own credibility is just amazing.
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Post by Jacques Strap on Apr 9, 2024 17:19:48 GMT -4
I posted this in the other thread but it makes more sense here I guess.
I want the Mooseheads to sell and rebuild this season. I have renewed my seats for next season. I enjoy following the draft and getting new young players through trades and the draft and watching them develop. That can be enjoyable too in following a rebuilding team. It would be a huge mistake imo for the Mooseheads not to trade their top guys they have left to recoup draft picks and players for the coming years.
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Post by themandalorian on Apr 9, 2024 18:08:13 GMT -4
I never thought I would ever reach a point where I was more pissed off with this organization than I was in 2008 but here we are. I still went to most of the games over the 2008-2009 and 2009-2010 seasons. As of right now I will only renew if the following conditions are met: 1) New coach. 2) A strong signal that the team is doing a complete rebuild so trades made at the draft. The Mooseheads have to earn my money back after the last season of complete garbage. I just saw three Habs games , 2 of which ended up being duds due to bad 2nd periods, but it was a way better fan experience than what I got for showing up to Mooseheads games all year. The arrogance that this teams marketing department had with their communications to me with respect to renewals makes me want to punch them square in the face. I am curious as to what the Mooseheads marketing department did to piss you off this bad.
My brother and sister-in-law didn't renew due to likely conflicts with attending games more than anything with their boy hopefully playing for the Macs next year in U18 and their girls also not being able to go now with work with the oldest and school activities with the youngest. My brother talked to them and explained why and they understood.
I renewed our family tickets but that was out of habit more than anything.
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Post by moosefan1994 on Apr 9, 2024 18:27:45 GMT -4
I never thought I would ever reach a point where I was more pissed off with this organization than I was in 2008 but here we are. I still went to most of the games over the 2008-2009 and 2009-2010 seasons. As of right now I will only renew if the following conditions are met: 1) New coach. 2) A strong signal that the team is doing a complete rebuild so trades made at the draft. The Mooseheads have to earn my money back after the last season of complete garbage. I just saw three Habs games , 2 of which ended up being duds due to bad 2nd periods, but it was a way better fan experience than what I got for showing up to Mooseheads games all year. The arrogance that this teams marketing department had with their communications to me with respect to renewals makes me want to punch them square in the face. I am curious as to what the Mooseheads marketing department did to piss you off this bad.
My brother and sister-in-law didn't renew due to likely conflicts with attending games more than anything with their boy hopefully playing for the Macs next year in U18 and their girls also not being able to go now with work with the oldest and school activities with the youngest. My brother talked to them and explained why and they understood.
I renewed our family tickets but that was out of habit more than anything.
It was the arrogance conveyed that pissed me off. The email I received was “renew or lose your seat.” Everybody and their dog knows that this is a rebuilding season coming up and big deal if I have to change seat location. I renewed in June in 2022 and only did so that early was to make sure I got World Junior tickets and my seat was still available. I got a voice mail and I didn’t like the tone- “if you are going to be joining us” . Whoever is running that department needs some communications training , they had no idea why I hadn’t renewed yet- it was because I was pissed off about the state of the team and that was before the Dumais revelation and the disgraceful performance in the playoffs but it could have been something else on a personal level. Maybe I am overreacting but this has been building up for 6-7 years. The Mooseheads were blessed with hosting a Memorial Cup and then having a great run of rebuild trades by Cam in 2020 and actually drafting well for a few seasons and having nothing to show for it as far as championships when they should have won at least one.
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Post by Reesor on Apr 9, 2024 19:00:09 GMT -4
If I don't have the credibility here - please remove the post. I've just been told by a pretty good source that as of today - there is no plan for the Mooseheads to go into a full rebuild. That could mean several things - but that's what I've just been told - as well as encouragement to keep posting here on the forum. Cataford mackinnon vidicek rousseau will all be gone and you could even see Kilfoil and Levesque moved 0.1% chance you see either Kilfoil or Levesque moved unless they ask for a trade. Levesque will either be a good trade chip for the Moose next in 2025-26 or he could be a very good 20 year old the next year. Kilfoil could have 4 solid seasons left and he'll be given a lot of ice time next year to develop. He would be traded to which team? One on the same rebuild cycle as Halifax? That doesn't make a lot of sense. With Bomber's post about Halifax not selling this is worth emphasizing. In my opinion this won't be a scorched earth rebuild. Cataford could be one of the better forwards available next season assuming Gauthier is already traded. Vidicek and MacKinnon could already be traded. Halifax will get a lot of value for those players should they choose to trade them. They may not trade Schultz, Rousseau or Sprynar, which in my opinion would be a mistake but I feel like this Mooseheads management team would entertain the option. I believe this ownership group is looking to turn Halifax into the London Knights. They're looking to ride a wave of momentum to increase the total # of season ticket holders. Marketing is usually targets towards a demographic, and not to everybody. Marketing at least "decent" hockey without bottoming out entirely is not meant for hardcore fans that buy season tickets every season. It's meant for casual fans that go to 5-6 games per year that they're trying to persuade to purchase a 15-game pack or a season ticket. Admittedly I'm already trying to figure out how many Thunderbirds games I'm going to go to in the 2nd half of next season rather than attending Mooseheads games should they bottom out. And I was a season ticket holder for a while. If next years' team turns into the team we saw in the 2nd half of 2020, no amount of draft picks will save them from the drop-off in season ticket holders for 2025-26. They'll be in a hole before they even start year one of the rebuild. They may try to prevent that, and hardcore fans know that may lead to good but not great rosters unless Halifax gets lucky with entry draft or import picks. It's easy to be have polar opinions (all or nothing) after an emotional playoff exit. Will Halifax trade everything or nothing? As always, the answer should be in the middle.
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Post by Jack Bauer on Apr 9, 2024 19:22:20 GMT -4
Cataford mackinnon vidicek rousseau will all be gone and you could even see Kilfoil and Levesque moved 0.1% chance you see either Kilfoil or Levesque moved unless they ask for a trade. Levesque will either be a good trade chip for the Moose next in 2025-26 or he could be a very good 20 year old the next year. Kilfoil could have 4 solid seasons left and he'll be given a lot of ice time next year to develop. He would be traded to which team? One on the same rebuild cycle as Halifax? That doesn't make a lot of sense. With Bomber's post about Halifax not selling this is worth emphasizing. In my opinion this won't be a scorched earth rebuild. Cataford could be one of the better forwards available next season assuming Gauthier is already traded. Vidicek and MacKinnon could already be traded. Halifax will get a lot of value for those players should they choose to trade them. They may not trade Schultz, Rousseau or Sprynar, which in my opinion would be a mistake but I feel like this Mooseheads management team would entertain the option. I believe this ownership group is looking to turn Halifax into the London Knights. They're looking to ride a wave of momentum to increase the total # of season ticket holders. Marketing is usually targets towards a demographic, and not to everybody. Marketing at least "decent" hockey without bottoming out entirely is not meant for hardcore fans that buy season tickets every season. It's meant for casual fans that go to 5-6 games per year that they're trying to persuade to purchase a 15-game pack or a season ticket. Admittedly I'm already trying to figure out how many Thunderbirds games I'm going to go to in the 2nd half of next season rather than attending Mooseheads games should they bottom out. And I was a season ticket holder for a while. If next years' team turns into the team we saw in the 2nd half of 2020, no amount of draft picks will save them from the drop-off in season ticket holders for 2025-26. They'll be in a hole before they even start year one of the rebuild. They may try to prevent that, and hardcore fans know that may lead to good but not great rosters unless Halifax gets lucky with entry draft or import picks. It's easy to be have polar opinions (all or nothing) after an emotional playoff exit. Will Halifax trade everything or nothing? As always, the answer should be in the middle. I agree with this. But i think in the middle is still moving some stars for great returns while keeping some form of a veteran presence. We are mostly all agreeing that a Moncton deal already made will start that process. Flipping those assets for a veteran would be a mistake.
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Post by themandalorian on Apr 9, 2024 19:39:10 GMT -4
The trades that will be made don't have to be ALL about young players and future draft picks.
Some of what we could receive could be futures consisting of players who would be 19 year olds in 2025-2026 and hopefully would be candidates for OA in 2026-2027.
Cataford should bring in an absolute treasure chest of assets in a Memorial Cup season just by himself. As far as 19 year old forwards go in the Q he is 1A or 1B when compared with Ethan Gauthier.
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Post by qmaniac on Apr 9, 2024 20:03:00 GMT -4
If I don't have the credibility here - please remove the post. I've just been told by a pretty good source that as of today - there is no plan for the Mooseheads to go into a full rebuild. That could mean several things - but that's what I've just been told - as well as encouragement to keep posting here on the forum. Cataford mackinnon vidicek rousseau will all be gone and you could even see Kilfoil and Levesque moved Zero chance Kilfoil or Levesque get moved. There would have been no reason to draft Kilfoil to trade him now. It seemed obvious at the time they only kept the pick to take him.
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Post by Jack Bauer on Apr 9, 2024 20:37:43 GMT -4
The trades that will be made don't have to be ALL about young players and future draft picks.
Some of what we could receive could be futures consisting of players who would be 19 year olds in 2025-2026 and hopefully would be candidates for OA in 2026-2027.
In the context of assets expiring in 24/25 a 19yr old for 25-26 is a younger asset. It definitely does not have to be all draft picks and prospects as a return but the idea is acquiring assets for the future even if its an equally as old player but in a different season.
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Post by themandalorian on Apr 9, 2024 20:52:07 GMT -4
The trades that will be made don't have to be ALL about young players and future draft picks.
Some of what we could receive could be futures consisting of players who would be 19 year olds in 2025-2026 and hopefully would be candidates for OA in 2026-2027.
In the context of assets expiring in 24/25 a 19yr old for 25-26 is a younger asset. It definitely does not have to be all draft picks and prospects as a return but the idea is acquiring assets for the future even if its an equally as old player but in a different season. In the context of young players and picks I am referring to either players who are 2007s, 2008s ( drafted this June) , 2009s ( hopefully my oldest nephew in June 2025 ) and future drafts.
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