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Post by jimmy on Oct 14, 2008 11:02:44 GMT -4
Cameron is the biggest problem on our PP ... he can't complete a pass if his life depends on it. I'd move Bissonnette onto the 1st PP unit and Cameron to the 2nd unit. Also ... having Lessard as the trigger man in the slot does not work ... he has fanned on too many chances. IMO Eagles is one of our stronger PP guys ... he can turn on a dime and evade a checker but he lacks the big shot from the wing. He only scores in close and so he may be better off being the trigger man. Tend to agree with you ... Cameron has improved some, but still remains a guy who is not really a playmaker and not really a finisher ... not sure if Bissonette is ready to play 1st unit yet, but he is looking like a gem early on. Lessard isn't the ideal trigger man, I can see Famin in that role as he has a quicker release - he can also make passes from the front of the net to open guys on the side, whereas when the puck goes into the slot for Lessard, he basically swings for the fence and hopes for the best ... |
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Post by SteveUL on Oct 14, 2008 11:11:25 GMT -4
A few things I found strange about the 20 yo situation Biduke made it well known last year he was happy to be in Moncton....he talked about how he wanted to do whatever he had to in order to return as a 20yo.....end result was a player showing up to camp in what was probably the best shape of his life......he gets hurt misses a few games and bang gets sent home for being unhappy with his icetime after a few games back.Not much of a reward for a guy who busted his ass to be here. I would hope that all players that made the team busted their ass to be there ... and all worked hard in the off-season. From what I saw of Biduke so far this year ... he was playing lazy ... like a Marquardt. That might be because he had "won" his spot before training camp opened and I don't think that was a good idea ... he didn't have to compete. Season started and he played two lack lustre games ... he may have been hurt for part of one ... but he still played lazy. His first game back from injury he looked to be suddenly competing for his spot ... playing physical and working his butt off most shifts ... thats what I wanted to see from him earlier. Why didn't we get that earlier ... he clearly wasn't "busting his butt". I've never been impressed with Biduke ... but he had a knack of getting the puck in the net ... very good at scoring on tips. I found that far too many shifts he does not play as physical as his solid frame will allow him. I always felt I was getting 80% from him most nights. Now Lahey hasn't impressed me anymore than Biduke has ... his first night he was as lazy as Biduke ... but that could be a case of not knowing the systems well enough and showing hesitation. His goals were all the result of somebody elses hard work (Eagles and Stephens) but the bottom line is that he did convert on those opportunities when they were presented. Lahey was a 1st round draft pick in the OHL ... 10th overall ... but has dealt with injury problems all through his career. Biduke was a 2nd round pick in the same draft (2004). Incidentally ... Payton Liske was also 12th overall in that same draft ... quite the crop there ...  So ... I don't know if one is better than the other ... Lahey vs Biduke ... but somebody saw something in Lahey to take him in the Top 10 of the draft ... and he is coming from a hockey program (Ottawa) that has a history of producing responsible players under Brian Kilrea. I know Biduke played there too ... but only lasted 32 games ... and maybe that says something ? I've never been impressed with Biduke ... but always welcomed him because he could score. But I really didn't see a place for Biduke with all of the young talent we have ... and I didn't think we'd miss him while he was out ... and we didn't. We do miss Sill ... enormously ... and we would miss Eagles too. Stats show that Lahey can score just as good as Biduke can ... and he is a better skater. Maybe Flynn called up Kilrea and asked him which one he thought was the better player ? I would think a recommendation from him would be worth something. I don't know if Biduke brought any "baggage" with him ... I've never heard anything bad about him ... but maybe there was something there that tipped the scales. |
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Post by hockey1981 on Oct 14, 2008 11:12:22 GMT -4
This is what I'd try
1st PP unit
Famin - Eagles - Bissonnette
Barberio - Cameron
2nd PP unit
Lessard - Stephens - Brannon/Brown/MacAusland
Savard - Gormley
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Post by Captain Obvious on Oct 14, 2008 11:17:15 GMT -4
They didn't "cut" him, just sent him home. Well that is the same thing ... the Cats made several cuts during training camp ... and most of those guys are still Cat's property. Biduke was cut in favour of Lahey. From what I'm hearing and what people are saying, it was not a hockey decision, it was something off ice possibly between him and Flynn. |
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Post by Captain Obvious on Oct 14, 2008 11:20:37 GMT -4
This is what I'd try 1st PP unit Famin - Eagles - Bissonnette Barberio - Cameron 2nd PP unit Lessard - Stephens - Brannon/Brown/MacAusland Savard - Gormley I'd put Stephens out on the 1st unit ahead of Bissonnette. The kid is playing well but putting him on the #1 PP at this point is too much too soon. Gormley is there now, but he is more advanced as a player. |
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Post by Optimus Reim on Oct 14, 2008 11:36:13 GMT -4
This is what I'd try 1st PP unit Famin - Eagles - Bissonnette Barberio - Cameron 2nd PP unit Lessard - Stephens - Brannon/Brown/MacAusland Savard - Gormley I am jus curious as to why we are going to tinker with the 2nd PP unit when it seems to be working? At least one out of the two is creating chances. As of right now I would leave the 2nd alone and try some different guys on the first. |
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Post by gongshow on Oct 14, 2008 11:39:45 GMT -4
Well that is the same thing ... the Cats made several cuts during training camp ... and most of those guys are still Cat's property. Biduke was cut in favour of Lahey. From what I'm hearing and what people are saying, it was not a hockey decision, it was something off ice possibly between him and Flynn. Doesn't suprise me one bit....I think Flynn is guilty palying favorites with some players on the team. |
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Post by SteveUL on Oct 14, 2008 12:16:24 GMT -4
From what I'm hearing and what people are saying, it was not a hockey decision, it was something off ice possibly between him and Flynn. Doesn't suprise me one bit....I think Flynn is guilty palying favorites with some players on the team. Thats just human nature ... you can't like everybody. You don't like Flynn ... see how that works ? |
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Post by gongshow on Oct 14, 2008 12:35:03 GMT -4
Doesn't suprise me one bit....I think Flynn is guilty palying favorites with some players on the team. Thats just human nature ... you can't like everybody. You don't like Flynn ... see how that works ?  ....I think it's because he whines so much after the refs....even when Mctn has a 5 on 3. Which reminds me how did he not get fined for his comments in Saturday's paper following the Victo game?.....seems to me I've seen many coachs get fined for things like that all the time.Calling a ref a "disgrace" and saying he's "out to lunch" seems a bit over the line.......I agree that refs need to be critisized in order to improve but saying stuff like that makes everybody look bad. |
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Post by jimmy on Oct 14, 2008 13:01:05 GMT -4
Thats just human nature ... you can't like everybody. You don't like Flynn ... see how that works ? ....I think it's because he whines so much after the refs....even when Mctn has a 5 on 3. Which reminds me how did he not get fined for his comments in Saturday's paper following the Victo game?.....seems to me I've seen many coachs get fined for things like that all the time.Calling a ref a "disgrace" and saying he's "out to lunch" seems a bit over the line.......I agree that refs need to be critisized in order to improve but saying stuff like that makes everybody look bad. I suspect he will get fined ... remember, it was a holiday weekend and today is the first business day back, so the league will likely only deal with the matter today or later this week - it wasn't exactly a transgression of the magnitude worthy of recalling the disciplinary committee on a long weekend ... IMO Flynn doesn't usually do much whining to the refs, not sure why you feel he is a whiner ... If Flynn doesn't get a fine in this situation, it may be because the league knows the ref f'ed up and they prefer to sweep this under the carpet and move on ... it is one thing for a coach to criticise a refs judgment and integrity, which fully deserves to be reigned in with a fine; but a more slippery slope to fine a coach for suggesting a ref misinterpreted a rule (especially if the league knows the coach was right) ... in this case Flynn pretty much slammed the refs knowledge of the rules as well as his judgement throughout the game, so I think a fine is likely ... wonder if the ref will be disciplined? |
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Post by SteveUL on Oct 14, 2008 13:33:02 GMT -4
....I think it's because he whines so much after the refs....even when Mctn has a 5 on 3. Which reminds me how did he not get fined for his comments in Saturday's paper following the Victo game?.....seems to me I've seen many coachs get fined for things like that all the time.Calling a ref a "disgrace" and saying he's "out to lunch" seems a bit over the line.......I agree that refs need to be critisized in order to improve but saying stuff like that makes everybody look bad. I suspect he will get fined ... remember, it was a holiday weekend and today is the first business day back, so the league will likely only deal with the matter today or later this week - it wasn't exactly a transgression of the magnitude worthy of recalling the disciplinary committee on a long weekend ... IMO Flynn doesn't usually do much whining to the refs, not sure why you feel he is a whiner ... If Flynn doesn't get a fine in this situation, it may be because the league knows the ref f'ed up and they prefer to sweep this under the carpet and move on ... it is one thing for a coach to criticise a refs judgment and integrity, which fully deserves to be reigned in with a fine; but a more slippery slope to fine a coach for suggesting a ref misinterpreted a rule (especially if the league knows the coach was right) ... in this case Flynn pretty much slammed the refs knowledge of the rules as well as his judgement throughout the game, so I think a fine is likely ... wonder if the ref will be disciplined? I think he'll still get fined. Even though they know the Ref was wrong they cannot allow comments like that some of the time ... even though they were justified. Flynn said something like "I have never seen a worse Reffed game". That is an exaggeration ... Murphy did a poor job but we have seen other games in our rink where the fans wanted to get at the Ref. We have seen many worse. Its comments like that that won't let Flynn get off without a fine. If he simply said ... "Murphy made a mistake in the end that cost us the game ... and he admitted to me that he made the mistake. Murphy seemed to struggle thoughout the game and both teams paid for his mistakes. I think he and the Q would be better served if he worked a few more games with a partner before trying to solo again this year". But Flynn was emotional when he made his comments and that will get him. Irving will just pay the fine anyway. |
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Post by bauer on Oct 14, 2008 19:18:32 GMT -4
Who are you talking about, Biduke or Eagles? If you are referring about Eagles, Yes, Leahy could do A LOT WORSE!!!  Please list me all the positives that Eagles bring to the PP. He is a 20 yr old average at best player. If your going to play Cameron you should have a shooter on the ice or a big guy in front of the net ie Brannon... Please don't list his shot, vision or smooth hands..... Well, for starters, he is the fastest forward and best at carrying the puck. He uses his quickness and will go to the net. His shot is one of the best on the team as are his hands.[/quote] Next game you watch him play count how many times he skates on his knees and count how many times he skates in the corner and loose the puck without doing anything with it. If he is one of our best players lets not hold our breath for a run this year. |
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Post by Captain Obvious on Oct 14, 2008 19:54:20 GMT -4
Please list me all the positives that Eagles bring to the PP. He is a 20 yr old average at best player. If your going to play Cameron you should have a shooter on the ice or a big guy in front of the net ie Brannon... Please don't list his shot, vision or smooth hands..... Well, for starters, he is the fastest forward and best at carrying the puck. He uses his quickness and will go to the net. His shot is one of the best on the team as are his hands. Next game you watch him play count how many times he skates on his knees and count how many times he skates in the corner and loose the puck without doing anything with it. If he is one of our best players lets not hold our breath for a run this year. [/quote] He is the 2nd best player on the team after Rio. Yeah he loses the puck at times but his speed, grit and tenacity make him an 80-90 point player if he can stay healthy, nothing wrong with that. Nobody is holding their breath for a run, but if you look at the last 2 years, the teams planning for a run(Halifax RN VD and CB have not won) so we have a chance as long as Flynn keeps playing and developing certain players with upside(Bissonnette Famin Brown MacAusland Jodoin Gormley Dimitruk). |
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Post by bauer on Oct 14, 2008 20:02:39 GMT -4
2nd best player after Rio?  Give your head a shake I tought you had more hockey knowledge than that. But if you think Eagles is the 2nd best player on the team, as you posted on the Boyle tread your credibility is in question...IMHO. |
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Post by Captain Obvious on Oct 14, 2008 20:20:59 GMT -4
2nd best player after Rio? Give your head a shake I tought you had more hockey knowledge than that. But if you think Eagles is the 2nd best player on the team, as you posted on the Boyle tread your credibility is in question...IMHO. Ok then smartass, who is the 2nd best player on the team? |
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....I think it's because he whines so much after the refs....even when Mctn has a 5 on 3.
