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Post by forrest on Nov 3, 2008 8:29:18 GMT -4
How is Lane good for attendance? If you asked 100 people in Moncton who Lane was, maybe 1 would know who he was and that 1 person is likely already a Wildcat season ticket holder. You are right, but if you ask 100 people in Moncton about the Wildcats big 6'7" whatever his name is who can't skate, hit, or shoot the puck, probably 40 persons would have heard about him.
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Post by habh8er on Nov 3, 2008 8:56:31 GMT -4
How is Lane good for attendance? If you asked 100 people in Moncton who Lane was, maybe 1 would know who he was and that 1 person is likely already a Wildcat season ticket holder. You are right, but if you ask 100 people in Moncton about the Wildcats big 6'7" whatever his name is who can't skate, hit, or shoot the puck, probably 40 persons would have heard about him. That.....I can believe. People here who don't even have a clue about OUR team, were commenting to me last weekend about him.....all 3 times he was on the ice .
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Post by AceKikr on Nov 3, 2008 8:57:52 GMT -4
Years ago, a friend of mine played novice hockey on the same team as his sister. His parents put a little thing together where everytime one of them scored a goal, they got a loonie. Eventually, my friend was outscoring his sister like crazy and the sister wasn't getting any money so it wasn't fair. The parents changed the rules so that my friend still got the loonie everytime he scored, but the sister got a loonie everytime she touched the puck. True story. My point is that Flynn should do something like this. Everytime a member of the Cats scores, they get a treat, while everytime Lane touches the puck, he gets said treat. Perhaps we should sticky this stat and keep track. ...He's a bum, send him home. And every time you say something intelligent, let's put a little sticker right beside your name..!
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Post by SteveUL on Nov 3, 2008 8:58:03 GMT -4
I agree that is why O'Connor did it ... it wasn't like Lane was being a pain to anybody ... it was all about trying to spark his team. But O'Connor risked being hurt ... tossed ... suspended ... and being a regular that is a bigger risk for O'Connor. If Lane gets hurt/tossed/suspended we don't lose anything ... and thats why he is useful ... he is disposable ... O'Connor is not. Lane is also good for attendance. How is Lane good for attendance? If you asked 100 people in Moncton who Lane was, maybe 1 would know who he was and that 1 person is likely already a Wildcat season ticket holder. For your estimate to be true ... you'd need to have a population of 210,000 ... since we have a season ticket base of 2100 and change. Lane is good for attendance only in the fact that many people like fights ... and some people are curious to see a 6'8" tough guy fight. When the gloves come off and Lane is about to go ... the place gets loud. Having a designated fighter is good for attendance ... always has been ... always will be.
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Post by SteveUL on Nov 3, 2008 9:02:08 GMT -4
You are right, but if you ask 100 people in Moncton about the Wildcats big 6'7" whatever his name is who can't skate, hit, or shoot the puck, probably 40 persons would have heard about him. That.....I can believe. People here who don't even have a clue about OUR team, were commenting to me last weekend about him.....all 3 times he was on the ice . Gallant got about the same amount of ice time vs the strong teams of the Q last year. Against a weak Moncton team last year he'd get 6 or 7 shifts. Lane had about a dozen shifts on Saturday vs Halifax and did well. He'll probably get more shifts vs SJ next time as they will be down in 5th by then.
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Post by elementz on Nov 3, 2008 9:35:58 GMT -4
So you think in 3 weeks time (NOV 22) that PEI and Bathurst are going to leapfrog the Sea Dogs in the standings? Step away from the kool-aid Steve.
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Post by SteveUL on Nov 3, 2008 9:58:38 GMT -4
So you think in 3 weeks time (NOV 22) that PEI and Bathurst are going to leapfrog the Sea Dogs in the standings? Step away from the kool-aid Steve. We'll probably use Domingue against you guys too ... and Jeff Bell will get in the game. You guys are 2 points out of 5th right now. The teams that you are battling with are teams that know they have to work hard to win ... while you guys haven't realized that yet. Didn't you just lose to one of the worst teams in the Q ?
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Post by elementz on Nov 3, 2008 10:13:08 GMT -4
Valid point, but we did just get 3 out of 4 points on the road against a tough CB team. Looking ahead before our next meeting, SJ plays PEI, RN, and Bat at home, and then we hit the road to Quebec and play Gat, VD, and ROU. These 6 games are all games that can and should be won by the Dogs.
Despite the Dog's mini slump that they went through, out of the 6 Atlantic teams, we have the 2nd best record in the last 10 games at 6-2-1-1.
I'll stop now for fear of sounding to CHSBish.
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Post by SteveUL on Nov 3, 2008 10:55:24 GMT -4
Valid point, but we did just get 3 out of 4 points on the road against a tough CB team. Looking ahead before our next meeting, SJ plays PEI, RN, and Bat at home, and then we hit the road to Quebec and play Gat, VD, and ROU. These 6 games are all games that can and should be won by the Dogs. Despite the Dog's mini slump that they went through, out of the 6 Atlantic teams, we have the 2nd best record in the last 10 games at 6-2-1-1. I'll stop now for fear of sounding to CHSBish. I'm just yanking your chain ... I know how good SJ is and how good they should be. But you guys have to learn to work harder. You had good success vs CB because you worked hard ... knowing that you were playing a solid hard working team and would have to match their intensity to compete. But you have to do that against everybody to get your team rolling. I find that one of SJ's biggest problems this year is that they think they are so good that they just have to show up to win. They have been reading all of the experts saying they are a real contender (leading up to the season) ... and hearing all the chatter last year that 08-09 was their year. Soon they will learn that they aren't considerably better than anybody and that hard work will be needed to get to where they want to be.
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Post by jonjon on Nov 3, 2008 12:04:24 GMT -4
Years ago, a friend of mine played novice hockey on the same team as his sister. His parents put a little thing together where everytime one of them scored a goal, they got a loonie. Eventually, my friend was outscoring his sister like crazy and the sister wasn't getting any money so it wasn't fair. The parents changed the rules so that my friend still got the loonie everytime he scored, but the sister got a loonie everytime she touched the puck. True story. My point is that Flynn should do something like this. Everytime a member of the Cats scores, they get a treat, while everytime Lane touches the puck, he gets said treat. Perhaps we should sticky this stat and keep track. ...He's a bum, send him home. And every time you say something intelligent, let's put a little sticker right beside your name..! Well gimme my sticker now then, because the moral of my sarcastic story is that Jordan Lane should not be on this team. First off, anyone that can defend his skill level in any facet of the game I really don't understand. That said, his only purpose on this team is to be a policemen and a goon and provide intimidation. Thus far, he has shown that he is hardly an elite fighter. He may be 6-8 or whatever, but in his fights that he has had in the Q, including pre-season, he has yet to undisputedely win a fight in my opinion. He isn't intimidating, he's mediocre heavyweight fighter who is terrible in all other areas of the game. As far as AceKikr goes, I was just having a little fun with the story. Lighten up.
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Post by Dman on Nov 3, 2008 12:44:14 GMT -4
And every time you say something intelligent, let's put a little sticker right beside your name..! Well gimme my sticker now then, because the moral of my sarcastic story is that Jordan Lane should not be on this team. First off, anyone that can defend his skill level in any facet of the game I really don't understand. That said, his only purpose on this team is to be a policemen and a goon and provide intimidation. Thus far, he has shown that he is hardly an elite fighter. He may be 6-8 or whatever, but in his fights that he has had in the Q, including pre-season, he has yet to undisputedely win a fight in my opinion. He isn't intimidating, he's mediocre heavyweight fighter who is terrible in all other areas of the game. As far as AceKikr goes, I was just having a little fun with the story. Lighten up. Yes, but him being on the ice or on the bench is not affecting the outcome of our games in a negative way...plus, our players don't seem to be getting cheap shotted with him in the line-up. I agree that he is not an elite fighter and he is not a great player (he is improving, however), but he is good enough to stay in the line-up, when required, in order to get his job done.
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Post by jonjon on Nov 3, 2008 13:08:37 GMT -4
Him being in the lineup/on the bench has a negative affect on the team based on walking by Tim Horton's Saturday night and seeing Andrew Roski signing autographs for the kids instead of playing developing minutes. Also, I don't see how a case can be made that Lane is improving based solely on his gameplay. I just feel he is taking up space and there is no reason for him to be on the team. Lol, poor guy, hope he doesn't read these boards. Hate being negative about a team that is 16-0-2, but I just don't agree with Lane playing or being on the team.
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Post by Captain Obvious on Nov 3, 2008 13:44:34 GMT -4
Him being in the lineup/on the bench has a negative affect on the team based on walking by Tim Horton's Saturday night and seeing Andrew Roski signing autographs for the kids instead of playing developing minutes. Also, I don't see how a case can be made that Lane is improving based solely on his gameplay. I just feel he is taking up space and there is no reason for him to be on the team. Lol, poor guy, hope he doesn't read these boards. Hate being negative about a team that is 16-0-2, but I just don't agree with Lane playing or being on the team. It may hurt Roski or whoever is the 13th forward at the time, but it's a small price to pay to have the other 18 guys in the lineup not having to worry about guys taking liberties with them. If there was no use for guys like Lane then NHL teams would not carry enforcers...and neither would Flynn.
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Post by SteveUL on Nov 3, 2008 13:46:09 GMT -4
Him being in the lineup/on the bench has a negative affect on the team based on walking by Tim Horton's Saturday night and seeing Andrew Roski signing autographs for the kids instead of playing developing minutes. Also, I don't see how a case can be made that Lane is improving based solely on his gameplay. I just feel he is taking up space and there is no reason for him to be on the team. Lol, poor guy, hope he doesn't read these boards. Hate being negative about a team that is 16-0-2, but I just don't agree with Lane playing or being on the team. You are correct ... Flynn doesn't know what he is doing ...
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Post by jonjon on Nov 3, 2008 16:48:49 GMT -4
I'm not disputing the presence of an enforcer, I'm disputing the presence of a goon who does nothing else. Very rare to find a goon on an NHL team these days that provides nothing else. Lane is a liability in other areas of the game. And, if the counter is that he isn't a liability only playing 2 minutes a game, his liability is that he is taking a roster spot from other players (Roski).
At no point did I suggest Flynn doesn't know what he's doing. I'm just second guessing and adding to the discussion. You know... the point of a message board. Sheesh. People on this board are awfully negative. Not regarding the team, but toward other posters. All I did was join the discussion and AceKikr and SteveUL go on the offensive. At least be respectful and engage in intelligent conversation and not just act like a sarcastic jerk. C'mon people.
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