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Post by howitzer on Nov 5, 2009 16:34:44 GMT -4
The big mistake that was made by your organisation IMHO was last year not starting this full rebuild then, getting a lot of FA 17 and 18 year olds in camp, trying to move veterans for draft picks(2008 draft) and icing a younger team. Adding 19 year olds like Earle Snow Bolland Vlasanek was a waste of time and assets. If you're gonna suck at least suck while developing young players. Ideally that should have been the plan, but we just didn't have the picks to bring in that youth, or did we have players to move to get young players/picks. Plus with the 3 levels of management seemingly at odds on what to do, and how to do it, we basically had a wasted year. It's already been said in this thread, but this is year 1, last year was year 0. All of this has been helped by the fact Marcel had some picks and players become busts, and so when these down years come, we have no organizational depth to cover for us. We are/where BARE. You can start with MacAskill as a 1st rounder, Richard Greer in the 2nd round, Cheremetiev, Smith, Cichy. All players who should have made an impact on the team, but instead either didn't show up or never played to potential. Add to the the mutiple years of not having any 1st round picks, many years without a 2nd rounder and it all works out to not having quality depth coming into the organization. Also you can throw the FA aspect into the equation too. I agree we have had no success in this department. (and Rane Carnagie doesn't count, he fell on our lap). You can live like this for a time, but it will eventually catch up to you, and it did starting last year, and continuing this year. Cam has made the right choice to start from scratch and build this up again. Casual fans are turning away and the team is losing, but it just can't be helped right now. For the long term viability of this team, we have to go through what we're going through right now. It will turn around, the wins will come, and the fair weather fans who are turning away in droves right now, will come back. It happens it every city in every level of sport. Oh and JPM, thanks for the words of encouragement. Kind of sad when an out of towner has more of an understanding of a team and what's going on then some fans of that actual team lol.
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Post by donger on Nov 6, 2009 15:39:42 GMT -4
read another dumb comment in the paper today made by the one and only baboon.it went something like this." you wait and see in another year or two we will be a different team. " well that says alot coming from the gm/ coach of a team in the mist of its worst start in the history of this organization.maybe in a year or two the leafs may win a cup or even the cubs may win a world series.one can only pray that they are a different team.even though russell will not be around to see this , i am not sold on this team being any different in a few years then they are now.our projected stars of the future havn't got me convinced .i guess russell would be even more stupid then he already is to say what he really feels about andrews , lemieux ect.a total of two goals and four assists between the two tells me nothing.i realize one is 16 and the other 17 but as they say " show me the money" from top to bottom this team is in such a mess that people get excited while we our losing 11 or 12 in a row.all you have to do is take an educated look at this team as it stands and you have to see that its wishful thinking to talk about two years down the road.we just don't have the seeds planted and the only way we are going to have a good crop is by getting a new farmer.the baboon has to go.
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Post by Jack Bauer on Nov 6, 2009 15:53:13 GMT -4
read another dumb comment in the paper today made by the one and only baboon.it went something like this." you wait and see in another year or two we will be a different team. " well that says alot coming from the gm/ coach of a team in the mist of its worst start in the history of this organization.maybe in a year or two the leafs may win a cup or even the cubs may win a world series.one can only pray that they are a different team.even though russell will not be around to see this , i am not sold on this team being any different in a few years then they are now.our projected stars of the future havn't got me convinced .i guess russell would be even more stupid then he already is to say what he really feels about andrews , lemieux ect.a total of two goals and four assists between the two tells me nothing.i realize one is 16 and the other 17 but as they say " show me the money" from top to bottom this team is in such a mess that people get excited while we our losing 11 or 12 in a row.all you have to do is take an educated look at this team as it stands and you have to see that its wishful thinking to talk about two years down the road.we just don't have the seeds planted and the only way we are going to have a good crop is by getting a new farmer.the baboon has to go. Don't have the seeds? Some of you people are absolutely clueless. Blaming a 16yr old 4th liner for not being able to compete against some of this leagues best players shows how little you know about the sport. But i'm sure you'll be one of the ones in 3 years posting the CHL top 10 and player of the week awards and praising some of these same kids. Do yourself a favor and get a clue.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 6, 2009 15:58:42 GMT -4
read another dumb comment in the paper today made by the one and only baboon.it went something like this." you wait and see in another year or two we will be a different team. " well that says alot coming from the gm/ coach of a team in the mist of its worst start in the history of this organization.maybe in a year or two the leafs may win a cup or even the cubs may win a world series.one can only pray that they are a different team.even though russell will not be around to see this , i am not sold on this team being any different in a few years then they are now.our projected stars of the future havn't got me convinced .i guess russell would be even more stupid then he already is to say what he really feels about andrews , lemieux ect.a total of two goals and four assists between the two tells me nothing.i realize one is 16 and the other 17 but as they say " show me the money" from top to bottom this team is in such a mess that people get excited while we our losing 11 or 12 in a row.all you have to do is take an educated look at this team as it stands and you have to see that its wishful thinking to talk about two years down the road.we just don't have the seeds planted and the only way we are going to have a good crop is by getting a new farmer.the baboon has to go. Don't have the seeds? Some of you people are absolutely clueless. Blaming a 16yr old 4th liner for not being able to compete against some of this leagues best players shows how little you know about the sport. But i'm sure you'll be one of the ones in 3 years posting the CHL top 10 and player of the week awards and praising some of these same kids. Do yourself a favor and get a clue. DAMMIT JACK!!!!!! You beat me to the punch! ;D
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Post by eastcoastfan on Nov 6, 2009 16:02:43 GMT -4
read another dumb comment in the paper today made by the one and only baboon.it went something like this." you wait and see in another year or two we will be a different team. " well that says alot coming from the gm/ coach of a team in the mist of its worst start in the history of this organization.maybe in a year or two the leafs may win a cup or even the cubs may win a world series.one can only pray that they are a different team.even though russell will not be around to see this , i am not sold on this team being any different in a few years then they are now.our projected stars of the future havn't got me convinced .i guess russell would be even more stupid then he already is to say what he really feels about andrews , lemieux ect.a total of two goals and four assists between the two tells me nothing.i realize one is 16 and the other 17 but as they say " show me the money" from top to bottom this team is in such a mess that people get excited while we our losing 11 or 12 in a row.all you have to do is take an educated look at this team as it stands and you have to see that its wishful thinking to talk about two years down the road.we just don't have the seeds planted and the only way we are going to have a good crop is by getting a new farmer.the baboon has to go. What is it with you? Every single post you spew the same garbage insulting Russell and blaming everything on him. It must be one of two things: 1) You have some personal vendetta against Cam Russell 2) You know nothing about junior hockey and the cycles that teams go through So which is it?
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Post by donger on Nov 6, 2009 16:05:43 GMT -4
i do not see anywhere in my comments where i blame a 16 year old for the state of this team.i just do not think IMO that they will be the players people like you expect them to be. so bauer read and understand before you shoot your face off.then again you are who you are , i guess.
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Post by canbeer on Nov 6, 2009 16:15:48 GMT -4
read another dumb comment in the paper today made by the one and only baboon.it went something like this." you wait and see in another year or two we will be a different team. " well that says alot coming from the gm/ coach of a team in the mist of its worst start in the history of this organization.maybe in a year or two the leafs may win a cup or even the cubs may win a world series.one can only pray that they are a different team.even though russell will not be around to see this , i am not sold on this team being any different in a few years then they are now.our projected stars of the future havn't got me convinced .i guess russell would be even more stupid then he already is to say what he really feels about andrews , lemieux ect.a total of two goals and four assists between the two tells me nothing.i realize one is 16 and the other 17 but as they say " show me the money" from top to bottom this team is in such a mess that people get excited while we our losing 11 or 12 in a row.all you have to do is take an educated look at this team as it stands and you have to see that its wishful thinking to talk about two years down the road.we just don't have the seeds planted and the only way we are going to have a good crop is by getting a new farmer.the baboon has to go. Yeah because a good GM and coach would say we're going to be even worse next year and the year after... I'm sure that would make sense So you bring up Andrews and Lemieux well what about the "etc"? What about Clarke? Abeltshauser? Gelinas? Have they been horrible... let me guess, they'll be lucky to top out at second pair Dmen and a 3rd line checker. Anyways we don't expect you to backup the crap that you're spewing so slink away and we'll see you sometime in the next few days when you basically post the same thing again.
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Post by Gman on Nov 6, 2009 16:19:44 GMT -4
Don't know why you guys keep responding to him. Just keeps him coming back.
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Post by catnut on Nov 6, 2009 16:24:04 GMT -4
read another dumb comment in the paper today made by the one and only baboon.it went something like this." you wait and see in another year or two we will be a different team. " well that says alot coming from the gm/ coach of a team in the mist of its worst start in the history of this organization.maybe in a year or two the leafs may win a cup or even the cubs may win a world series.one can only pray that they are a different team.even though russell will not be around to see this , i am not sold on this team being any different in a few years then they are now.our projected stars of the future havn't got me convinced .i guess russell would be even more stupid then he already is to say what he really feels about andrews , lemieux ect.a total of two goals and four assists between the two tells me nothing.i realize one is 16 and the other 17 but as they say " show me the money" from top to bottom this team is in such a mess that people get excited while we our losing 11 or 12 in a row.all you have to do is take an educated look at this team as it stands and you have to see that its wishful thinking to talk about two years down the road.we just don't have the seeds planted and the only way we are going to have a good crop is by getting a new farmer.the baboon has to go. What is it with you? Every single post you spew the same garbage insulting Russell and blaming everything on him. It must be one of two things: 1) You have some personal vendetta against Cam Russell 2) You know nothing about junior hockey and the cycles that teams go through So which is it? You forgot 3) all of the above.
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Post by eastcoastfan on Nov 6, 2009 16:31:50 GMT -4
What is it with you? Every single post you spew the same garbage insulting Russell and blaming everything on him. It must be one of two things: 1) You have some personal vendetta against Cam Russell 2) You know nothing about junior hockey and the cycles that teams go through So which is it? You forgot 3) all of the above. True dat!
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Post by Steve on Nov 6, 2009 19:07:36 GMT -4
read another dumb comment in the paper today made by the one and only baboon.it went something like this." you wait and see in another year or two we will be a different team. " well that says alot coming from the gm/ coach of a team in the mist of its worst start in the history of this organization.maybe in a year or two the leafs may win a cup or even the cubs may win a world series.one can only pray that they are a different team.even though russell will not be around to see this , i am not sold on this team being any different in a few years then they are now.our projected stars of the future havn't got me convinced .i guess russell would be even more stupid then he already is to say what he really feels about andrews , lemieux ect.a total of two goals and four assists between the two tells me nothing.i realize one is 16 and the other 17 but as they say " show me the money" from top to bottom this team is in such a mess that people get excited while we our losing 11 or 12 in a row.all you have to do is take an educated look at this team as it stands and you have to see that its wishful thinking to talk about two years down the road.we just don't have the seeds planted and the only way we are going to have a good crop is by getting a new farmer.the baboon has to go. What is it with you? Every single post you spew the same garbage insulting Russell and blaming everything on him. It must be one of two things: 1) You have some personal vendetta against Cam Russell 2) You know nothing about junior hockey and the cycles that teams go through So which is it? Donger = Brad Marchand's Mother!
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Post by J4M13 on Nov 6, 2009 19:56:02 GMT -4
read another dumb comment in the paper today made by the one and only baboon.it went something like this." you wait and see in another year or two we will be a different team. " well that says alot coming from the gm/ coach of a team in the mist of its worst start in the history of this organization.maybe in a year or two the leafs may win a cup or even the cubs may win a world series.one can only pray that they are a different team.even though russell will not be around to see this , i am not sold on this team being any different in a few years then they are now.our projected stars of the future havn't got me convinced .i guess russell would be even more stupid then he already is to say what he really feels about andrews , lemieux ect.a total of two goals and four assists between the two tells me nothing.i realize one is 16 and the other 17 but as they say " show me the money" from top to bottom this team is in such a mess that people get excited while we our losing 11 or 12 in a row.all you have to do is take an educated look at this team as it stands and you have to see that its wishful thinking to talk about two years down the road.we just don't have the seeds planted and the only way we are going to have a good crop is by getting a new farmer.the baboon has to go. Do you even watch games? I have no idea what you're seeing. I have watched 2 Mooseheads games, and looked at the boxscores for a lot more. The Mooseheads have a trend of being in games until late, and probably just running out of gas. They came within one bad bounce of taking the best team in the league to overtime. How is that demonstrating a lack of seeds? Okay, so they don't have wins. The kids don't have stats yet. But what they do have is a strong work ethic, and the team's culture is clearly built on effort and pride. I fail to see why comments about winning in the next year or two are unbelievable or unacceptable. I hated the Mooseheads a couple years back. I didn't like them much last year. But this season, I'm definitely coming around. Go Moose Go. Hope to hate you again soon!
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Post by sharrow on Nov 6, 2009 22:20:12 GMT -4
Just ignore and he will turn up on another board firing that coach whoever he might be.
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Post by crash on Nov 7, 2009 8:43:17 GMT -4
Just ignore and he will turn up on another board firing that coach whoever he might be. "he" is a "she"
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Post by olematelot on Nov 7, 2009 9:33:51 GMT -4
Just ignore and he will turn up on another board firing that coach whoever he might be. "he" is a "she" and blond no doubt
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