Midget AAA in Dieppe

[scotiahockey]

Whatever they do, hopefully it benefits the kids and isn't just to put $ into HNB pockets. If adding another team will truly help the development then that's what they should do, personally I don't think it would, as the guys getting cut are bubble players so to have them play at a level they can't, only hurts them IMO. I think it's better to develop for a year getting more ice and then come back, the guys who are good enough and want to do so always seem too and the ones who aren't, have more fun playing at whatever level they choose.

I do think the regions need to be rejigged though so kids don't have to travel so far. I think NS has it about as good as they can but even then there is kids who have to travel 1-2 hours away just to play on the nearest team. Which can be a hard sell to parents and kids, the costs keep going up and they're the ones who have to pay for it.

[SteveUL]

Mar 31, 2017 18:59:15 GMT -4 SteveUL said:

Mar 31, 2017 17:02:04 GMT -4 viper said:

Does anyone know what the 3 team tie-breaker is?

From Hockey Canada

Three or More Teams Tied
Note: The three-team tiebreaker is used to determine the seeding of the 1st,
2nd, 3rd seed. If any step in the tiebreaker only seeds one team, that team
assumes that position. The three-team tiebreaker will continue to determine
the seeding of the two remaining teams. At no time will teams using this
formula go back to the two-team tiebreaker
2. If three teams or more are tied, the point record established in the games among the tied
teams only will be used as the first tie breaking formula in deciding which team(s) shall
advance.
2.1 The team with the most wins (among tied teams) would gain the highest
position.

2.2 If teams are still tied after 2.1 has been applied, then the team with the best goal
average gains the highest position. The goal average of a team is to be
determined in the following manner: total number of goals for divided by total
number of goals for and against.
NOTE: All round robin games are included
Example: For = 10 goals Against = 4 goals
Percentage 10
10+4 = .714
NOTE: The highest percentage gains the highest position(s).
The exercise of 2.2 establishes the team or teams with the highest position(s) by
percentage. These teams will advance. If there are still teams tied, they go to the
next step. They do not go back to the “Two Team Tiebreaker”.
Example;
A. Team A - .714 = 1 seed - Advances
Team B - .500 = 3 seed – Does not advance
Team C - .650 = 2 seed – Advances
B. Team A - .714 = 1 seed – Advances
Team B - .500 = Still tied with team C – go to next step 2.3.
Team C- .500 = Still tied with team B – go to next step 2.3.
C. Team A –. 650 = Still tied with team B – go to next step 2.3.
Team B - .650 = Still tied with team A – go to next step 2.3.
Team C - .500 = Does not advance

2.3 If teams are still tied after 2.1 and 2.2. The team with the fewest goals against
(all round robin games played) will gain the highest position.

2.4 If teams are still tied after 2.1, 2.2 and 2.3. The team with the most goals for (all
round robin games played) will gain the highest position.

2.5 If teams are still tied after 2.1, 2.2, 2.3 and 2.4 have been applied, the team to
qualify would be the team that received the least number of minutes in penalties
throughout all the round robin games.

2.6 If teams are still tied after 2.1, 2.2, 2.3, 2.4 and 2.5 have been applied, a coin
toss shall determine the winner. In a 3 team coin toss, the odd team gains the
highest position

So ... Moncton playing PEI right now ... must win by at least four to get to gold medal game. CB already qualified with a 3-1 record and edged out SJ'S who are also 3-1. Moncton jumped out to a 4-0 lead after 1 which if that holds would tie them with SJ'S and they'd have to get down to PIM to decide it.

Every goal PEI scores from here on ... Moncton needs to get more than one to hold the key average. If PEI scores 1, Moncton needs 6. If PEI scores 2, Moncton needs 8 ... and 9 if PEI scores 3. Moncton needs at least one more goal to avoid a PIM tiebreaker.

[Penguins23®]

Moncton won 4-0 and got in on PIMs. Crazy.

[SteveUL]

Apr 1, 2017 16:21:40 GMT -4 Penguins23® said:

Moncton won 4-0 and got in on PIMs. Crazy.

I was surprised that they didn't press for a 5th and 6th goal in the 3rd. They did have their chances, but the final 5 minutes they were just content on getting it in deep and hanging back. If they had given up a late goal then they would have had to score 2 more to get the percentage to beat out SJ's. I don't think they did all of their math ... they knew that winning 4-0 should be enough as long as they didn't take too many penalties. But don't think they knew what they had to do if PEI scored 1 2 or 3 goals.

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Cape Breton West leading 2-1 over Moncton in the 2nd period.

Jacob Hudson with both goals for CBW.

[hal]

Cape Breton West Islanders are your Atlantic Major Midget Champs ! Congratulations to Ellis , Warner and MacLellan all Eagles Propects . Good Luck in BC at Nationals .

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Apr 2, 2017 13:04:01 GMT -4 hal said:

Cape Breton West Islanders are your Atlantic Major Midget Champs ! Congratulations to Ellis , Warner and MacLellan all Eagles Propects . Good Luck in BC at Nationals .

It'll be interesting to see how the Eagles handle their goalie situation. Both Mandolese and Jessiman can play in this league, but they have Colten Ellis as well.

A good problem to have.

[scotiahockey]

Apr 2, 2017 15:34:00 GMT -4 @hollywood said:

Apr 2, 2017 13:04:01 GMT -4 hal said:

Cape Breton West Islanders are your Atlantic Major Midget Champs ! Congratulations to Ellis , Warner and MacLellan all Eagles Propects . Good Luck in BC at Nationals .

It'll be interesting to see how the Eagles handle their goalie situation. Both Mandolese and Jessiman can play in this league, but they have Colten Ellis as well.

A good problem to have.

Mandolese and Jessiman have both shown the upside to be starters in this league, both will want to start... Ellis hasn't shown it at this level yet but I think he can play in the league too. One of the 3 will likely be gone by Christmas of the 2017 season and I'd say 2 of the 3 will be gone by the start of the 2018/19 season.

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It appears as if the Lameque Senior Team has folded and will be moving to Dieppe.

[jimmy]

Apr 19, 2017 10:53:28 GMT -4 @hollywood said:

It appears as if the Lameque Senior Team has folded and will be moving to Dieppe.

I would be shocked if this ends up being a success ... there is basically no track record of senior hockey being successful in larger centres where there is competition for the hockey dollar. It works in small towns where there is nothing else ... and reading the article in the Times & Transcript, he wants to push to go from 4 level 1 players to 8 per team for next season - translation higher operating costs ... which makes it that much less likely to succeed. Somewhat surprised the City of Dieppe would even agree to back this as a use of prime ice - when the demand already far exceeds the supply.

[chootoi]

Ya this just seems like the city trying desperately to fill the void of the Commandos leaving. If JR A didn't work in Dieppe I can't see senior hockey taking root either. Memramcook would make more sense but I believe they just lost a team a few seasons ago.

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Dieppe should be re allocating the commando's ice time to the bantam major programme as it's been starving for ice for years or the rumored midget major programme if it becomes a reality, it should not be looking for another team to subsidize it's ice time to. If this senior team actually ends up playing in Dieppe it will simply remind us all again to Never under estimate the power of stupid people in large groups.

[Ragin' Cajun]

Or simply let minor hockey have the ice time and let them spread it across all divisions! Let the kids use it as the ice is for the community

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Apr 19, 2017 17:46:40 GMT -4 Ragin' Cajun said:

Or simply let minor hockey have the ice time and let them spread it across all divisions! Let the kids use it as the ice is for the community

The ex commando's allocated ice times in Dieppe spread across the entire minor hockey programme, ringette, figure skating, and whatever else will not make any difference in the grand scheme of things, there's just to many teams and very limited ice for all. The solution is more ice surfaces, probably a minimum of 2 rinks but 3 would be ideal as the old centennial rink has gone way beyond it's life expectancy and will be shut down soon.

The good citizens of Memramcook were extremely generous in investing over $1 million renovating their rink so the citizens of Dieppe could use it for their minor hockey programme and ringette programme, all it took was tweaking the minor hockey program's name, I'm sure Sackville would have been just as accommodating to insert memramcook's name in their minor hockey programme for the use of the rink, that would have put Dieppe in a pickle.   I fully realise there are memramcook kids using the rink as well but the # are extremely disproportionate compared to the # of Dieppe kids using the facility.  Meanwhile Dieppe is busy building $ million dollar exterior skating ovals that don't work instead of rinks for the kids !!! Oh the humanity of politics .

Bottom line is The ice time allocated to one specific elite Bantam or Midget programme will make a big difference towards these kids development. 

[Captain Obvious]

Apr 19, 2017 18:40:59 GMT -4 @delegator said:

Apr 19, 2017 17:46:40 GMT -4 Ragin' Cajun said:

Or simply let minor hockey have the ice time and let them spread it across all divisions! Let the kids use it as the ice is for the community

The ex commando's allocated ice times in Dieppe spread across the entire minor hockey programme, ringette, figure skating, and whatever else will not make any difference in the grand scheme of things, there's just to many teams and very limited ice for all. The solution is more ice surfaces, probably a minimum of 2 rinks but 3 would be ideal as the old centennial rink has gone way beyond it's life expectancy and will be shut down soon.

The good citizens of Memramcook were extremely generous in investing over $1 million renovating their rink so the citizens of Dieppe could use it for their minor hockey programme and ringette programme, all it took was tweaking the minor hockey program's name, I'm sure Sackville would have been just as accommodating to insert memramcook's name in their minor hockey programme for the use of the rink, that would have put Dieppe in a pickle.   I fully realise there are memramcook kids using the rink as well but the # are extremely disproportionate compared to the # of Dieppe kids using the facility.  Meanwhile Dieppe is busy building $ million dollar exterior skating ovals that don't work instead of rinks for the kids !!! Oh the humanity of politics .

Bottom line is The ice time allocated to one specific elite Bantam or Midget programme will make a big difference towards these kids development. 

I think it's already in the works to build a double rink where Centennial is.