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Nov 6, 2017 21:53:34 GMT -4
Post by Deleted on Nov 6, 2017 21:53:34 GMT -4
You are quite right, scenery change is here. Get on board or move on, I am sure in the end the new facility will be a “wow” for sure and even at the first game fans will say tis about time the old coliseum barn was vacated with a brand new comfortable place- long time coming I suspect will be the theme. Wow, You sound really bright, these old farts supported this team for 20 plus years, and maybe they have some medical problems that don't allow them the mobility they once had, But I am sure that will never happen to you as your closed mine will never allow it to happen. Sad Closed minded is resisting change and new development and ideas...look in the mirror if you want see closed minded. I don't recall seeing 3500 old farts at the Coliseum for Wildcat games. I do see families and a lot of young people enjoying the games. If what keeps you away from seeing a game is a walk than just stay home pull your pants up to your armpits and complain about the government full time. Shake your fist at the damn kids and talk about how things used to be. |
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Nov 6, 2017 22:01:40 GMT -4
Post by canuck on Nov 6, 2017 22:01:40 GMT -4
Keep talking Jason, you will convince someone. Tied to this project are you?
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Post by Deleted on Nov 7, 2017 0:59:50 GMT -4
Keep talking Jason, you will convince someone. Tied to this project are you? Yes yes you caught me...I am actually in charge of the city propaganda department. Ignore the thousands of residents thrilled with city growth and projects to make Moncton more exciting and attract people and business to the downtown area. Lets do nothing and leave everything the same no matter how little sense it makes. Because the most important thing is making sure that people don't have to walk 500 to 1500 meters to attend an event. |
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Nov 7, 2017 6:04:22 GMT -4
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Post by jimmy on Nov 7, 2017 6:04:22 GMT -4
I don't see a need to make this personal. There are many advantages to the new building, and overall, it should be great. That said, the parking will not be as convenient as at the Coliseum. For some, this will be a minor inconvenience, for others, it will be a big deal. If you are a long time die hard fan whom for whatever reason is going to be highly impacted by parking, the move is likely going to either cause you to no longer attend, or at least to negatively impact your enjoyment of the event - that sucks for them ... we can at least acknowledge it.
One thing that hasn't been mentioned much ... for next fall when the building opens ... the west end of Main Street is still pretty much a ghost town. Not much immediately around the building in terms of restaurants, bars, not even a coffee shop. It will no doubt fill in over time - but for now, all of the downtown businesses that hope to benefit from event traffic are located on the far side of the subway.
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Post by ronmac on Nov 7, 2017 6:40:07 GMT -4
Keep talking Jason, you will convince someone. Tied to this project are you? Yes yes you caught me...I am actually in charge of the city propaganda department. Ignore the thousands of residents thrilled with city growth and projects to make Moncton more exciting and attract people and business to the downtown area. Lets do nothing and leave everything the same no matter how little sense it makes. Because the most important thing is making sure that people don't have to walk 500 to 1500 meters to attend an event. These old farts help build this City so little pukes like you could run around and think they know everything. Grow up, you learn by listening. |
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Post by SteveUL on Nov 7, 2017 8:34:52 GMT -4
Yes yes you caught me...I am actually in charge of the city propaganda department. Ignore the thousands of residents thrilled with city growth and projects to make Moncton more exciting and attract people and business to the downtown area. Lets do nothing and leave everything the same no matter how little sense it makes. Because the most important thing is making sure that people don't have to walk 500 to 1500 meters to attend an event. These old farts help build this City so little pukes like you could run around and think they know everything. Grow up, you learn by listening. Really ? Apparently you didn't listen because your views make no sense. |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 7, 2017 9:49:35 GMT -4
Yes yes you caught me...I am actually in charge of the city propaganda department. Ignore the thousands of residents thrilled with city growth and projects to make Moncton more exciting and attract people and business to the downtown area. Lets do nothing and leave everything the same no matter how little sense it makes. Because the most important thing is making sure that people don't have to walk 500 to 1500 meters to attend an event. These old farts help build this City so little pukes like you could run around and think they know everything. Grow up, you learn by listening. Well apparently you don't know much. You are resistant to change and your complaints would keep downtown a dark unused area. You are stuck in car culture and urban sprawl mode. You have no solutions just reasons why nothing new will work. PS It works in every other city.... And Please tell me how old this little puke is? |
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Post by SteveUL on Nov 7, 2017 9:51:25 GMT -4
These old farts help build this City so little pukes like you could run around and think they know everything. Grow up, you learn by listening. Well apparently you don't know much. You are resistant to change and your complaints would keep downtown a dark unused area. You are stuck in car culture and urban sprawl mode. You have no solutions just reasons why nothing new will work. PS It works in every other city.... And Please tell me how old this little puke is? Its working now ... new hotels ... new commercial developments all in the downtown. They announced yesterday a new 8 to 14 floor retail/hotel structure ... WITH A PARKING GARAGE. |
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Post by Captain Obvious on Nov 7, 2017 9:57:14 GMT -4
Well apparently you don't know much. You are resistant to change and your complaints would keep downtown a dark unused area. You are stuck in car culture and urban sprawl mode. You have no solutions just reasons why nothing new will work. PS It works in every other city.... And Please tell me how old this little puke is? Its working now ... new hotels ... new commercial developments all in the downtown. They announced yesterday a new 8 to 14 floor retail/hotel structure ... WITH A PARKING GARAGE. If you are referring to the one across from Running Room, nobody will go park there to walk 15 minutes to the rink. Way too far to impact the downtown center's parking issue. |
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Nov 7, 2017 10:13:56 GMT -4
Post by SteveUL on Nov 7, 2017 10:13:56 GMT -4
Its working now ... new hotels ... new commercial developments all in the downtown. They announced yesterday a new 8 to 14 floor retail/hotel structure ... WITH A PARKING GARAGE. If you are referring to the one across from Running Room, nobody will go park there to walk 15 minutes to the rink. Way too far to impact the downtown center's parking issue. If that is a 15 minute walk ... then all of that parking down around the center core of Main street (Church St parking garage, behind Capital Theatre, across tracks on Foundry) must be a 5-7 minute walk or less ... problem solved. Have you ever actually looked at a Google Earth aerial image around the Events Center and see how much parking there actually is ? The lot across the tracks seems to be able to accommodate an equal amount of parking to the Coliseum parking lot. There is no parking issue ... it is all in your head. |
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Nov 7, 2017 10:53:16 GMT -4
Post by lirette on Nov 7, 2017 10:53:16 GMT -4
If you are referring to the one across from Running Room, nobody will go park there to walk 15 minutes to the rink. Way too far to impact the downtown center's parking issue. If that is a 15 minute walk ... then all of that parking down around the center core of Main street (Church St parking garage, behind Capital Theatre, across tracks on Foundry) must be a 5-7 minute walk or less ... problem solved. Have you ever actually looked at a Google Earth aerial image around the Events Center and see how much parking there actually is ? The lot across the tracks seems to be able to accommodate an equal amount of parking to the Coliseum parking lot. There is no parking issue ... it is all in your head. The average Wildcat game (4000~) will absolutely be fine. The lot across the tracks is owned by Heritage Management, more spots have been added this past summer & they have the prep done to be able to add gates for paid parking easily next summer. Those spots combined with the spots in front of Heritage court itself is roughly equal to the lot size of the coliseum. The sellout games(open night/Q finals etc.) & big concerts are where people are going to need to take extra measures to get there early and go for dinner somewhere or arrange a drive. The ones who don't will have to walk extra..but people will figure it out as time goes. |
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Nov 7, 2017 11:05:49 GMT -4
Post by jimmy on Nov 7, 2017 11:05:49 GMT -4
If that is a 15 minute walk ... then all of that parking down around the center core of Main street (Church St parking garage, behind Capital Theatre, across tracks on Foundry) must be a 5-7 minute walk or less ... problem solved. Have you ever actually looked at a Google Earth aerial image around the Events Center and see how much parking there actually is ? The lot across the tracks seems to be able to accommodate an equal amount of parking to the Coliseum parking lot. There is no parking issue ... it is all in your head. The average Wildcat game (4000~) will absolutely be fine. The lot across the tracks is owned by Heritage Management, more spots have been added this past summer & they have the prep done to be able to add gates for paid parking easily next summer. Those spots combined with the spots in front of Heritage court itself is roughly equal to the lot size of the coliseum. The sellout games(open night/Q finals etc.) & big concerts are where people are going to need to take extra measures to get there early and go for dinner somewhere or arrange a drive. The ones who don't will have to walk extra..but people will figure it out as time goes. People will adjust ... some easier than others. For able bodied adults, a 5 minute walk won't be much of a deterrent ... for those who are less mobile (whether that be age, disability, young children, obesity, whatever), it will be more of a challenge and may keep them home at times. The other variable is weather ... if you come out of the rink and the wind chill is minus 25, or it is pouring rain, that 5-10 minute walk to your car is going to suck no matter how able bodied you are. But, realistically, that is only going to happen a few times per season, and hopefully the overall improved amenities will more than offset the occasional parking inconvenience for the vast majority of attendees. |
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Nov 7, 2017 11:13:37 GMT -4
Post by Jack Bauer on Nov 7, 2017 11:13:37 GMT -4
Yes yes you caught me...I am actually in charge of the city propaganda department. Ignore the thousands of residents thrilled with city growth and projects to make Moncton more exciting and attract people and business to the downtown area. Lets do nothing and leave everything the same no matter how little sense it makes. Because the most important thing is making sure that people don't have to walk 500 to 1500 meters to attend an event. These old farts help build this City so little pukes like you could run around and think they know everything. Grow up, you learn by listening. Helped build...and download many of the costs onto the next generation despite history proving them to be the generation to be considerably better off then all before them AND after them. Be careful starting that argument. You might not like the end result of it when the reality is that the older generation is by far the most resistant to any change in terms of moving forward as it usually involves greener/healthier and increased technology....2 areas the older generation for the most part want little to no part of. Little pukes in this instance could be those younger working in trades or the ever growing tech sector who are currently paying the bills for the city they apparently never built...yet in many cases still have to pay for... |
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Post by Jack Bauer on Nov 7, 2017 11:18:41 GMT -4
The average Wildcat game (4000~) will absolutely be fine. The lot across the tracks is owned by Heritage Management, more spots have been added this past summer & they have the prep done to be able to add gates for paid parking easily next summer. Those spots combined with the spots in front of Heritage court itself is roughly equal to the lot size of the coliseum. The sellout games(open night/Q finals etc.) & big concerts are where people are going to need to take extra measures to get there early and go for dinner somewhere or arrange a drive. The ones who don't will have to walk extra..but people will figure it out as time goes. People will adjust ... some easier than others. For able bodied adults, a 5 minute walk won't be much of a deterrent ... for those who are less mobile (whether that be age, disability, young children, obesity, whatever), it will be more of a challenge and may keep them home at times. The other variable is weather ... if you come out of the rink and the wind chill is minus 25, or it is pouring rain, that 5-10 minute walk to your car is going to suck no matter how able bodied you are. But, realistically, that is only going to happen a few times per season, and hopefully the overall improved amenities will more than offset the occasional parking inconvenience for the vast majority of attendees. Any demographic shift to younger or more corporate due to location will only lead to increased revenues over time. Fact is the older generation hesitant to change are the ones who will miss out but catering to them would be the death of the team anyway as they resist any and all evolution and change as you're seeing here. There should be minor issues in building a new rink and moving into it. These complaints over parking are laughable. I've gone to many events in Halifax at the Scotiabank Center. I drove my car to Halifax for them all but never actually took my car to the event. You can't have the nice big downtown rink AND have all the parking that goes with an older rink outside the downtown core with more land available. And history tells me you benefit a lot more from the downtown rink and all that comes with it in terms of increased foot traffic, more people out and about taking in a game, and for many more accessible as they live in the downtown area in some cases. It's not near the negative and insult to "long time ticket holders" as some would make it seem. Unfortunately your season ticket purchase rolls over every year and entitled you to nothing moving forward beyond picking your favorite seat. |
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Nov 7, 2017 16:57:12 GMT -4
Post by npsh on Nov 7, 2017 16:57:12 GMT -4
People will adjust ... some easier than others. For able bodied adults, a 5 minute walk won't be much of a deterrent ... for those who are less mobile (whether that be age, disability, young children, obesity, whatever), it will be more of a challenge and may keep them home at times. The other variable is weather ... if you come out of the rink and the wind chill is minus 25, or it is pouring rain, that 5-10 minute walk to your car is going to suck no matter how able bodied you are. But, realistically, that is only going to happen a few times per season, and hopefully the overall improved amenities will more than offset the occasional parking inconvenience for the vast majority of attendees. Any demographic shift to younger or more corporate due to location will only lead to increased revenues over time. Fact is the older generation hesitant to change are the ones who will miss out but catering to them would be the death of the team anyway as they resist any and all evolution and change as you're seeing here. There should be minor issues in building a new rink and moving into it. These complaints over parking are laughable. I've gone to many events in Halifax at the Scotiabank Center. I drove my car to Halifax for them all but never actually took my car to the event. You can't have the nice big downtown rink AND have all the parking that goes with an older rink outside the downtown core with more land available. And history tells me you benefit a lot more from the downtown rink and all that comes with it in terms of increased foot traffic, more people out and about taking in a game, and for many more accessible as they live in the downtown area in some cases. It's not near the negative and insult to "long time ticket holders" as some would make it seem. Unfortunately your season ticket purchase rolls over every year and entitled you to nothing moving forward beyond picking your favorite seat. Very hard for me to argue against your commentary Jack. The new Centre is here, parking and associated costs for that along with increase price for the STH seat(s) is part of it all. Either get on board or if the situation isn't to one liking under specific circumstances(weather) then stay away. Choice is 50/50 go or stay home.It will be quite interesting to see how the WC Mgt will approach the STH base as those(regardless of age) are the ones that pay upfront, committed and attend on a regular basis. |
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